DAZ - PLEASE finish off the Ophelia 7 release

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  • FSMCDesignsFSMCDesigns Posts: 12,843
    wolf359 said:

    " Genitalia should be included free with GF8 / G8M. "

     

     

    Many educational institutions and other illustrators and animators
    will never have a need to render nude genitalia.blush

    I think it is reasonable that such "features" are a paid add-on. 

    Fair enough, but they shouldn't be locked behind a Pro Bundle purchase. The gens should be like an extra $10-$20. NOT locked behind a $135.00 (base price) Pro Bundle purchase. I've been doing 3D art for over a year now and STILL don't have the gens because I can't afford to purchase the pro bundles.

    Don't use the ones in the pro bundles, they are very basic anyway. get a 3rd party one at renderotica or any other place like I do since I never purchase a pro bundle..

    Even though educational institutions and other illustrators and animators might not have need of them, there are plenty of other users that do

  • xyer0xyer0 Posts: 6,330

    So, what could be exchanged for HD Add-On in the Pro Bundles? I've seen a vote for one of the pose sets. When I look at the Pro Bundles, with rare exceptions, I can do without one of the associated characters. I rarely use them (with the exception of Ivan, Elijah, Genevieve, Kimo and Kalea Pro Bundles). Since I'm seeking photorealism, it's rare that I can use the extra skins, and the morphs are often too dependent on the Core character to be of much use on their own.

     

  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,970
    xyer0 said:

    So, what could be exchanged for HD Add-On in the Pro Bundles? I've seen a vote for one of the pose sets. When I look at the Pro Bundles, with rare exceptions, I can do without one of the associated characters. I rarely use them (with the exception of Ivan, Elijah, Genevieve, Kimo and Kalea Pro Bundles). Since I'm seeking photorealism, it's rare that I can use the extra skins, and the morphs are often too dependent on the Core character to be of much use on their own.

     

    If it was an exchange, I'd have to say a pose set. I agree with the above poster that many of the sets aren't really very original and with the free "pose correction" for G3F to G8F poses, I see less of a need for new poses when it's so easy to tranfer all older pose sets to the new figure. To me the outfits, hair, and characters are more valuable than the pose sets. Just IMO of course. :)

  • caravellecaravelle Posts: 2,650

    HD packs should be part of the pro bundle.

    I agree! My perfect Pro bundle would contain 

    ++ the base figure

    ++ Head and Body Shapes

    ++ HD Add Ons

    ++ 'Anatomical Elements'

    ++ 2 characters

    ++ 2 hair styles

    ++ 2-3 sets of clothing

  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,970
    caravelle said:

    HD packs should be part of the pro bundle.

    I agree! My perfect Pro bundle would contain 

    ++ the base figure

    ++ Head and Body Shapes

    ++ HD Add Ons

    ++ 'Anatomical Elements'

    ++ 2 characters

    ++ 2 hair styles

    ++ 2-3 sets of clothing

    Yes! +1

    To me, the Pro Bundle price isn't worth it compared to what we get. But if the the bundles where build THAT way - worth it for sure! :)

  • caravelle said:

    HD packs should be part of the pro bundle.

    I agree! My perfect Pro bundle would contain 

    ++ the base figure

    ++ Head and Body Shapes

    ++ HD Add Ons

    ++ 'Anatomical Elements'

    ++ 2 characters

    ++ 2 hair styles

    ++ 2-3 sets of clothing

    Yes! +1

    To me, the Pro Bundle price isn't worth it compared to what we get. But if the the bundles where build THAT way - worth it for sure! :)

    Nope; I'd much rather loose ONE item (the anatomical elements) in subsequent bundles than FOUR.

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 108,035
    caravelle said:

    HD packs should be part of the pro bundle.

    I agree! My perfect Pro bundle would contain 

    ++ the base figure

    ++ Head and Body Shapes

    ++ HD Add Ons

    ++ 'Anatomical Elements'

    ++ 2 characters

    ++ 2 hair styles

    ++ 2-3 sets of clothing

    and how many times would you be happy to buy the Head and Body morphs?

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,723
    caravelle said:

    HD packs should be part of the pro bundle.

    I agree! My perfect Pro bundle would contain 

    ++ the base figure

    ++ Head and Body Shapes

    ++ HD Add Ons

    ++ 'Anatomical Elements'

    ++ 2 characters

    ++ 2 hair styles

    ++ 2-3 sets of clothing

    No, this is repeatedly buying the Head & Body morphs, the Anatomical Elements with each Pro Bundle. If the Anatomical Elements came with the Body Morphs and there was a Head, Body, Anatomical, and Expressions bundle that'd be cool and probably raise the sales of those morph packages.

    Sure you could bundle that morph bundle with the character Pro Bundles to help incentivize buying at least one Pro Bundle but ultimately people will be buying the 2nd Pro Bundle of a female and 2nd Pro Bundle of a male purely on the merits of the clothing, hairs, characters, and poses and probably in that order too if DAZ 3D really believes the only incentive people have to buy the character Pro Bundles are the anatomical elements.

  • L'AdairL'Adair Posts: 9,479
    caravelle said:

    HD packs should be part of the pro bundle.

    I agree! My perfect Pro bundle would contain 

    ++ the base figure

    ++ Head and Body Shapes

    ++ HD Add Ons

    ++ 'Anatomical Elements'

    ++ 2 characters

    ++ 2 hair styles

    ++ 2-3 sets of clothing

    and how many times would you be happy to buy the Head and Body morphs?

    Yeah, that would be a problem... unless the only Pro bundles to include the Head and Body morphs were Victoria X and Michael X... Let the subsequent bundles include poses instead...

    But like the others, I would like to see the HD morphs as part of the Pro bundles. There are a lot of times I pass on the Pro bundle because of the clothing included. It's just not worth the cost when 3-4 of the items just don't appeal to me. I'd have a lot more incentive to "go Pro" if the HD morphs were included.

    I do think the "anatomica element" ought to be part of the base characters in the starter essentials, but I suspect there is a legal aspect to keeping it in the Pro bundles. Merchant Account providers, (how merchants collect via credit cards,) often have restrictions on what the merchant can offer for sale. Putting the anatomical elements anywhere but in the pro bundles might be a "TOS" violation... anyway, I'm pretty sure we won't see a change in how DAZ makes those available.

  • ANGELREAPER1972ANGELREAPER1972 Posts: 4,555

    well gotta agree why not include the hd morphs with the pro bundles, to get the gens you have to but pro, so be nice if they gave us the hd morphs too and from promos when they launch them it looks like they already most of the time have the hd ready same too, but also still have the hd morphs for sale too for those that only bought the base figure or starter 

  • caravellecaravelle Posts: 2,650
    caravelle said:

    HD packs should be part of the pro bundle.

    I agree! My perfect Pro bundle would contain 

    ++ the base figure

    ++ Head and Body Shapes

    ++ HD Add Ons

    ++ 'Anatomical Elements'

    ++ 2 characters

    ++ 2 hair styles

    ++ 2-3 sets of clothing

    and how many times would you be happy to buy the Head and Body morphs?

    Let me think.... how many times do we buy the 'anatomical' parts in the Pro bundles...? cheeky

     

  • caravelle said:
    caravelle said:

    HD packs should be part of the pro bundle.

    I agree! My perfect Pro bundle would contain 

    ++ the base figure

    ++ Head and Body Shapes

    ++ HD Add Ons

    ++ 'Anatomical Elements'

    ++ 2 characters

    ++ 2 hair styles

    ++ 2-3 sets of clothing

    and how many times would you be happy to buy the Head and Body morphs?

    Let me think.... how many times do we buy the 'anatomical' parts in the Pro bundles...? cheeky

     

    I think the point is that one item isn't going to affect the overall value of the bundle the way four would.

  • Wiccan1Wiccan1 Posts: 198

    HD packs should be part of the pro bundle.

    +1    I think that would be a real motivator for buying Pro figues.  angel

  • tkztkz Posts: 149

    Well that didn't take long....

    https://www.daz3d.com/ophelia-7-hd-add-on
     

  • arne207arne207 Posts: 161
    edited July 2017

    I just got the HD Addon for free by adding two cheap "Featured Artist" items to my cart. Seems a glitch!

    Post edited by arne207 on
  • arne207arne207 Posts: 161
    edited July 2017

    Here is quick first comparison between SD and HD.

    ophelia_comp.jpg
    2000 x 1500 - 343K
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  • Wiccan1 said:

    HD packs should be part of the pro bundle.

    +1    I think that would be a real motivator for buying Pro figues.  angel

    Not for me.

  • RKane_1RKane_1 Posts: 3,039

    HD packs should be part of the pro bundle.

    In this day and age the HD should be a part of the main figure automatically (to be dialed in or out when needed of course), and not something you should have to purchase seperately. But, yeah, at this point I'd even settle for it being a part of the pro bundle. 

    THIS .... SO MUCH....THIS.

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