Win 7 Home to Win 10 Pro
Szark
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I know we had threads about Windows 10 awhile back but what I would like to here, now much later, are from you Win 10 users about hpw you found the transition from say Vista and Win 7. Is the UI easy to use, what should I expect? Any issues with software compatibility?
Why am I asking this? Well my PC died a horrible death on Friday so I can only get a pre built, my specs, with Win 10. I can have Win 7 Pro but I would have to install it myself and hope everything works ok. :)
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If you can afford cash, and don't mind having an AMD PC specialist are still building systems with Win7pro on them.
I've not found Windows 10 horrible, and I don'tt hink I've had any compatibility issues - though of course you should check up on the status of your own peripherals.
Cho for me is has to be Intel but thanks anyways.
I am ok on Peripherals, don't have many really apart from USB HDD's and speakers. The only driver issue I might have is the old printer but that isn't a major problem.
I have spent all weekend looking on PC suppliers and came to the conclusion that some places have so called budget components at non budget price. So far Scan.UK supply top branded components and to offset the cost I can send back my newish 650 Gold Corsair PSU, GT 730 4GB GPU and still boxed 1TB WD HDD that I recently bought off them so they can include them in to the new build. I have asked for a quotes to include a 1050 or 1060 and without to see if I can stretch a little further.
LOL Not horrible Richard does that mean you don't dislike it but its not Win 7??
I haven't felt the need to roll back, there are minor annoyances and minor gains. It's not wonderful, but it isn't dire either.
OK I think I can live with minor annoyances, been using windows since 3,1. :) Have you thought of getting that pack that gives win 10 a facelift to win 7? I can't remember what they call it or where to get it.
I switched about 5 or 6 months ago from 7 to 10... it's not terrible. It's a lot of getting used to where to find stuff but not bad after you figure it out.
The nice thing is you can get rid of the "fly-out" from the start menu by removing everything in it, which I did on a couple of PCs here. I left some things on it on my new laptop, mainly because I thought they might potentially be useful, but haven't used them yet.
I have a couple Win10 machines and the biggest problem was with the early versions. Culture shock is the biggest obstacle. However, the latest version makes the desktop behavior and primary menu mechanism tolerable and customizable enough that I don't throw up my hands in frustration anymore.
Once you read a basic "How to survive Win10 manual" and browse around your system enough and learn to use the task bar text input search function to find things like "Control Panel", "Printers", you get the idea where things are stored now. I find I use the task bar text input search to find all sorts of things. It should be noted that "right-clicking" on the Windows icon at the extreme left of the task bar locates a lot of administrative type stuff.
As far as compatability goes, I haven't had any problems with generic modern devices . I can't speak for old devices or super duper, latest-greatest devices. Nor have I tried running ancient software on Win10.
My biggest complaint is the automatic updating. Sometimes my Win10 laptop does an update while idle and tries to reboot but hangs. When I discover it I have to force a reboot by holding the power key, but then it sometimes takes 10 or 15 minutes to finish the update and bring up the login screen. Sometimes after an update has been downloaded and partially installed it does the shutdown but doesn't reboot automatically, so when I take the laptop to a customer and expect to use it to help diagnose their problem, I turn the machine on and have to sit there for quite a while for it to boot up and finish the update. Pain in the butt.
One thing that really annoys me about Microsoft is that they can spend millions of $ and a lot of resources on all kinds of new projects which they then often abandon after a couple if years, while they won't spend a single hour on fixing simple Windows bugs that have been there for years. Windows 10 for example is still suffering from the infamous "tray icons losing their settings" bug which has been plaguing every version of Windows since XP. Lots of people have complained about it but nothing is being done despite it should be very simple to fix.
Bill Gates has alledgedly said that "If you can't make it good, at least make it look good", I don't know if it's true or just a sarcastic joke but it seems to be quite telling about how Microsoft is doing things when it comes to Windows.
This is exactly my opinion of it too.
It is my considered opinion, after using Windows 10 for over a year, with decades of operating system knowledge and know-how, that Windows 10 is...meh. Nothing has really stood out to me about Win 10, but nothing really aggravates me either.
I have Win 10 Pro creators update on 2 computers. I've had Win 10 Pro since Beta, and have had no problems with it. I use Start 10 ($4.99) which changes the menu back to Win 7. With 10 Pro you can now delay all updates for up to to 35 days. The only problem I have with it is that it wants to report a lot of info back to Microsoft, but you can turn these off in settings. The creators update adds paint 3d and 3d builder as free apps.
I bought an evga 1050ti Sc(factory overclocked) on Newegg for $129.00, and while not has fast as a 1060 or up it handled most of my Iray renders much faster than my previous 750ti.
Thank you all and awesome feedback. Gives me a little insight on what to expect. Start 10 that's it thanks. So now do I stick with Home given it allows 128 GB of Ram and just unplug my broadband cable at night if I have to render overnight. Or do I go Pro for another 50 odd quid.
Yep.. nothing special but it won't drive you batty either. *looks sideways at Win8 laptop*
I would settle for being driven batty by Win8, but the best I've managed is hiding the car keys when driven to homicide.
...the "force fed" updating is one of my main sticking points and the one of the reasons I didn't bite on the "free" offer particularly since I would have received 10 Home Edition which pretty much hands all control of one's system over to MS. So I would still have needed to pay at least the 99$ upgrade fee for the Pro Edition just so I could defer updating and disable features I don't need or want (like Cortana and the telemetry stuff). Also my printer/scanner as well as my ergonomic track ball (which is no longer made) would have become paperweights as they are older tech which W7 still supports but W10 does not. When you are on a tight budget as I am, tossing out perfectly good working hardware is a terrible waste.
...if no other choice I'd drop the extra 50 quid on the Pro Edition and save yourself a couple headaches when you run those long render jobs as well as give MS time to fix bugs in updates before installing them (or in the case of Home Edition, having MS install them for you at their whim).
Go Pro...
and szark you can also play with Paint3d
Are you saying that Paint3D does not work on the Win10-Home version????
Thanks that helps alot...Pro it is.
One word of warning: Never do quick install on Win 10. Read the install options carefuly. Win10 wants to collect datas and asks for tracking you. During install you have the options to set permissions. So take the time to go through the advanced install settings.
You can turn things off in the Home version as well as the Pro - it's only in updates, of the things you list, that they differ as far as I know.
well I went Pro anyways. Given my budget I had to opt for the 1151 I7 3.4 ghz with a MB that will take an extra GPU later. Water cooled this time.
It's not so bad, but Windows Key X and R are still my favourite shortcuts.
Turn off all the spyware MS call features (or just don't call emanything on the chance you'll not notice em).
I did'nt know about those shortcuts, Thanks nicstt, very handy.
cheers for the tips. What are these shortcuts for and how do I turn off all the spyware?
A lot of it should be in the setup options (I haven't bought a pre-isntalled Windows 10 system, but on previous versions that I've had to set up you get the options to run through when you first switch on).