Question about Darkseal's products

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  • LlynaraLlynara Posts: 4,772

    The product descriptions are hilarious! 

    @avxp - I'm not sure if Poser only figures (such as Allison) work in DAZ. The rigging might be different. I know I was looking at a small online store that sold Poser only stuff and it specifically said their items would not work in DAZ because of the rigging. Not sure that's the case with the figures that come with Poser. Never tried to load them into DAZ. Might be an interesting experiment.

  • KinichKinich Posts: 925

    The Egg Pod, again some notes and pictures. The render shows four versions of the Egg Pod, starting on the far left and working clockwise:-

     

    1. Standard Poser Figure loaded into DS, original mats and showing some tears/issues in the mesh around the pod’s lips.

    2. Poser Mats but converted to SubD in DS, the mesh now looks okay.

    3. Basic DS mat conversion, surface changes and moved the displacement maps to the displacement slot rather than the bump slot where DS puts them by default.

    4. DS SSS (Sub-Surface-Scattering) mat version, started with version three and applied the AOA SSS Shader Base (now part of the standard DS install) and fiddled with the settings using the SSS Toolbox to get something I liked.

    Note: as the SSS Mat was created using the SubSurface Toolbox ( https://www.daz3d.com/subsurface-toolbox ) a commercial product I’m not sure I can post the resulting Material file, so for now only the basic file & png are below, if a mod or somebody else can confirm the Toolbox issue I’ll post the SSS files later if permitted.

     

     

     

     

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  • Even something like this Male Pattern Baldness add-on (https://www.daz3d.com/male-pattern-baldness-for-m4) looks pretty useful.

  • scorpioscorpio Posts: 8,533
    Kinich said:

    Okay I decided to pick up some of Darkseal items on sale as I have had some success in the past using his(?) items in Daz Studio and see how it goes, below is a quick conversion & test of the Kiwi.

    On the left my quick 3DL conversion, on the right the standard Poser version. Lighting is a single AOA Advanced Ambient Light with the AO Shading Rate set to 4 (default=16)

     

    Notes:

    1. The Poser file doesn’t find the .obj file in my installation (I use a custom set of directories to split content and make it easier for me to find, so this might well have an impact)

    2. As expected out of the box the Poser mats look very plastic/glossy.

    3. Some of the included poses don’t work, Aggressive, Running 1, Running Mid 1 & Flamingo. I’m not sure why if I get a chance I might do a bit of digging

    4. The Kiwi Knight armour doesn’t work in DS out of the box, it loads and ‘fits to’ the Kiwi but is scaled all wrong. Parenting the armour to the Kiwi and scaling up to 100% (there are no scale transforms if the armour is not ‘Parented’) seems to work. See the second image below (the armour is using the Poser mats at this point. It does intersect with the wings but a bit of posing should help.

     

    I have attached the Yellow DS Material file & png below for anybody who is interested and wants to play. (the file names should be Yellow 01.duf & Yellow 01.duf.png, and they need to be saved somewhere in your DS file structure, a folder in your Presets folder is a good place)

     

    I’m going to have to go soon as real life is getting in the way of the important DS stuff.

    I'm getting the same problems

  • avxp said:

    You skipped 7, the most important question of all...

    So...as I read it,

    This one says Please note: this product require's Poser's Alyson 2. https://www.daz3d.com/bioskinforalyson2 ;

    I have Poser 9 or such. That means I can open Alison 2 (from poser) inside of Daz and THEN place this outfit on her? Using the Content Librarian (poser Formats)

    And proceed from there? Or is there some Poser to Daz conversion/cloner product I missed somewhwhere that bridges the gap....or....another way?
    I'm asking because this product https://www.daz3d.com/bioskin-for-v4

    Is close enough and is for V4, which should work just fine from the" Wear Them All"  helper....

    And maybe it's not worth it to work so hard over 1 alyson outfit.

     

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    And this one https://www.daz3d.com/boon

    That means, as you say, a STAND ALONE figure means I get "That Guy" in that suit?

    Nothing else needed to recreate the promo shots? So again, it's brand new male figure, + the suit he's wearing....

    And it *should* import or open in Daz?

    lol so many concerns........

    You said it! A lot of these seem delightful. It's going to be tough to narrow selections down.

    I'm curious to know if stand-alone characters like Boon or the Anime Fighter take poses from M3 or M4.

    Also curious to know if the tutorials are any good. Some of them seem like they might be worth checking out, especially at the bundle pricing.

    So many decisions....

     

  • I have purchased quite a few of Darkseal's products over the years and they all worked fine in Daz Studio. However, I think I had to work on the Alien Podz trans map or maybe I just wanted to create my own for what I needed them for...I don't recall for sure. Soul Sucker worked but posing it took some getting used to. I've long been happy with his products.
  • TaozTaoz Posts: 10,269

    The Evil Vine was for sale at Content Paradise so Darkseal must have been there as well.

    Still is - a lot of (if not all) the "new" content here is just CP content that has been moved to DAZ. So beware, some may already have some of it and may have forgotten it.

  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,088

    What's cool is that I was at one of the other sites and had been debating getting one or two of these items. Heh.

     

  • N-RArtsN-RArts Posts: 1,606

    I've always wanted Real Skin for Star. But if it's for Poser 9, then (going by this thread), it's not going to work in Daz 4.9. crying

  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,704

    I found it amusing that for the Alien Probez DAZ suggested I might also like AlienX poses. LOL. Thanks DAZ for suggesting I need Aliens to g go with the probes! =-)

  • TaozTaoz Posts: 10,269

    I've always wanted Real Skin for Star. But if it's for Poser 9, then (going by this thread), it's not going to work in Daz 4.9. crying

    The products page actually says both Poser and DS 4.9. Besides, a lot of the Poser content I've tried in DS actually works fine right out of the box, in Iray even with the original shaders.

  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,088

    Does Poser do specialty vendor-made shaders? Those would be an exception (if they exist)

     

  • TaozTaoz Posts: 10,269

    Does Poser do specialty vendor-made shaders? Those would be an exception (if they exist)

    What's "specialty vendor-made shaders"?

  • FSMCDesignsFSMCDesigns Posts: 12,845

    Does Poser do specialty vendor-made shaders? Those would be an exception (if they exist)

     

    yes, you'd be in heaven with the poser node based material room and your inclination towards procedural shaders. The two biggest problems with Poser products not working in DS are poser specific shaders, clothroom dynamic anything, and specific poser rigging, otherwise, from my experience 90% of poser content works in DS.

  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,088

    Yeah, just saying that if a product says 'Poser', Poser-specific shaders and dynamic hair (and maybe dynamic clothes) would be the big examples of stuff not transferring.

    Dynamic clothes, at least, can be adapted to Daz with VWD and similar.

     

  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,175

    Just be careful...Alyson 2 is weightmapped for Poser 9 and can't be used in DS (Poser 9 was where they introduced weight mapping).

    Laurie

  • The only issue ive found so far is with Nyla. Side - side on rfoot, lfoot and head breaks the model (see pic). Its listed as daz compatible so ill write this up later.

     

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  • N-RArtsN-RArts Posts: 1,606
    Taozen said:

    The products page actually says both Poser and DS 4.9. Besides, a lot of the Poser content I've tried in DS actually works fine right out of the box, in Iray even with the original shaders.

    I decided to buy Real Skin for Star. 

    The Real Skin works, but the injection/morphs don't. 

     

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  • N-RArtsN-RArts Posts: 1,606
    edited April 2017

    ~Double post... sorry~

     

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  • The sale prices seem to be fluctuating again...

  • StingerStinger Posts: 324
    edited April 2017

    70% discount not working for me.  Cleared cart.  Logged out.  Refreshed browser. Logged in.  Added items.  Still nothing.

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  • TaozTaoz Posts: 10,269
    Taozen said:

    The products page actually says both Poser and DS 4.9. Besides, a lot of the Poser content I've tried in DS actually works fine right out of the box, in Iray even with the original shaders.

    I decided to buy Real Skin for Star. 

    The Real Skin works, but the injection/morphs don't. 

    OK, what's the morphs supposed to do, actually? I can see the right eye looks a bit odd, has it anything to do with that?

  • TaozTaoz Posts: 10,269

    The sale prices seem to be fluctuating again...

    That's just the secret "Generate forum activity" feature at work...

  • Lee337 said:

    70% discount not working for me.  Cleared cart.  Logged out.  Refreshed browser. Logged in.  Added items.  Still nothing.

    Seems fixed (?).

  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604
    edited April 2017
    Taozen said:

    The sale prices seem to be fluctuating again...

    That's just the secret "Generate forum activity" feature at work...

    yes, we appear to have gained on the swings and then lost out on the roundabouts.

    Oh forgot to say it has been reported and should be fixed in about 10-15 minutes.

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  • N-RArtsN-RArts Posts: 1,606
    edited April 2017
    Taozen said:

     

    OK, what's the morphs supposed to do, actually? I can see the right eye looks a bit odd, has it anything to do with that?

    On Renderotica, the product page has a read me file that lists all of the morphs.

    I can't post a link as this is a family friendly forum. But there's supposed to be breast morphs, bottom morphs, feet morphs, mouth morphs, gravity morphs and morphs for Annie Hair.

    The eye might've something to do with the lighting that I used or the angle of the render. I just wanted to do a quick test in 3Delight.

     

     

     

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  • This stuff is all old enough it should work in DAZ except for the shaders.  I have a number of his products.  No, nothing is Genesis (any version) based, and most of it is stand alone figures.  If this means Darkseal is going to start putting out products specifically for DAZ it is very good news indeed.

  • TaozTaoz Posts: 10,269
    Taozen said:

     

    OK, what's the morphs supposed to do, actually? I can see the right eye looks a bit odd, has it anything to do with that?

    On Renderotica, the product page has a read me file that lists all of the morphs.

    I can't post a link as this is a family friendly forum. But there's supposed to be breast morphs, bottom morphs, feet morphs, mouth morphs, gravity morphs and morphs for Annie Hair.

    The eye might've something to do with the lighting that I used or the angle of the render. I just wanted to do a quick test in 3Delight.

    OK thanks, and yes, I imagined the eye thing was just some lighting thing.

  • StingerStinger Posts: 324
  • Is there a pose set got Bugboy?
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