Figure Metrics has me beyond frustrated!
barbult
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Help! I am trying to use the Measure Metrics product with the Figure Metrics option to adjust the length of the Elbow to Wrist of Genesis 3 Female. It will not set the value anywhere close to the value of 9 inches that I specified. It only sets the configured Arms Length morph to -100% or 100%, nothing in between. I am brand new to Measure Metrics; I just bought it yesterday. Am I doing something wrong, or is this a bug? I also tried it on Genesis 2 Male and had the same bad result. I am using DS 4.8.0.59.
This is exactly what I did:
Open the Measure Metrics pane (Window->Panes(tabs)->Measure Metrics:
Set Distance Units to Inches (in)
Set Angle Units to Degrees
Load Genesis 3 Female
Select Genesis 3 Female
Open the Smart Content pane:
Along the left side of Smart Content, Click on Utilities
Double click on Measure Genesis 3 Female.duf
Double Click on Figure Metrics.dse
In the Figure Metrics dialog:
Click on the Configuration tab:
Go to 06b. Elbow to Wrist:
Click on Select a Node and select Genesis 3 Female
Click on Select a Property and select SCLArmsLength(Arms Length)
Click on the Measurements tab:
Click to check the box to the right of 06b. Elbow to Wrist
Enter 9.0 in the 06b. Elbow to Wrist data field
At the bottom of the dialog, Check the box for Advanced Options
Enter 0.01 for Tolerance and 100 for Max Iterations
Click Accept
Open the Measure Metrics pane:
Observe that the 06b. Elbow to Wrist value is not even close 9.0
Open the Parameters Pane:
Click on Currently Used
Observe that the Arms Length morph is either at 100% or -100%
Try this over and over and observe that the Arms Length morph will only go to -100% or +100% and the value of 06b. Elbow to Wrist will never come close to the entered value of 9.0.
I submitted a help request, but I hope I can find help faster here in the forum, especially because of the holiday and weekend. Can you help?
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I see this too. If I manually adjust the value to get close (I was at 9.04") and then try using Figure Metrics to refine it it ends up further away after running the script (8.54" after one run, 12.1 after two) so it looks as if it is growing the step size and running away instead of shrinking and converging.
Thanks for confirming, Richard. Remarkably, I have an uncanny knack for stumbling onto problems! Does that mean I'll need to wait for Customer Support to address the problem, or is there a way I can configure it to use a smaller step size?
Edit: Oh, upon rereading, I guess step size isn't the issue. It is changing the step in the wrong direction and diverging instead of converging.
I couldn't see a way to fix this, no. With luck, if there is a fix someone will post it without having to wait for a reply to your ticket but that obviously depends on there being something end-users can do.
Thanks. I'll update my ticket #207946 to say that you confirmed the problem, so hopefully they don't waste too much time trying to recreate it.
Well, I was all excited that there was a Figure Metrics update in the DIM today. It doesn't look like this bug was fixed yet, though. And now I am having a whole slew of other problems. Maybe I just didn't notice some of these issues before, or maybe they are new. I will write another bug report. But I will also list them here, so other users can find this in the forum, if they are searching for Figure Metrics issues.
1) The Measure Metrics list of measurements is in reverse order, with 19 at the top and 1 at the bottom. Figure Metrics has the same problem, with measurement 19 at the top and measurement 1 at the bottom. The documentation on the Daz website doesn't show it this way, so it must be a bug.
2) After using Figure Metrics a few times, the Figure Metrics Cleanup script runs forever and never completes. I eventually have to kill Daz Studio Application task with the Windows Task Manager and lose all my work. To duplicate this problem:
Load Genesis 2 Base Female.
Select Genesis 2 Base Female.
Double click on Measure Genesis 2 Female.duf.
Double click on Figure Metrics.dse.
Put a check mark on each of the 5 measurements that can be changed.
Enter values for each of the 5 measurements that can be changed:
Height 68.5
Waist 32
Bust 38
Head 24
Low Hip 42
Click on Accept.
When it completes, double click on Figure Metrics.dse again.
Put a check mark on one Height change its value to 69.
Click on Accept.
When it completes, double click on Figure Metrics Cleanup.dse.
Observe that it does not complete, but runs on and on and on... Sometimes I would let it run for several minutes and then give up and kill the Daz Studio Application with the Windows Task Manager. Other times it would finish after several minutes. If it finishes, try to repeat the process starting with step 2. It gets slower and slower until Daz Studio just stays in Not Responding seemingly forever.
3) The default Figure Metric morphs configured for Genesis 2 Female when the plugin is installed (Bust Circumference, Waist Circumference, Low Hip Circumference), are not the morphs shown in the Daz documentation (Breast Size, Waist Width, Hip Size). So this is confusing. Am I supposed to use it as delivered, or reconfigure it to match the documentation?
4) When I configure Figure Metrics morphs to match the ones shown in the documentation (Breast Size, Waist Width, Hip Size) and enter some values (Height 68.5, Bust 38, Hip 42, Waist 32 inches), the morphs get dialed to 1.0 and hit their limit without reaching my desired values. So the morphs listed in the documentation don't seem flexible enough to achieve real people sizes. No error or feedback is presented to indicate that my selected values were not attained. My input values are no longer visible anyplace for me to compare with the result I got. How is a person supposed to determine whether their input values were attained or not?????
5) I cannot find any guidance on what morphs to configure for most of the Figure Metrics measurements. The default that gets loaded with the plugin only configures a few measurements. What are the suggested morphs for all the other measurements????
6) Figure Metrics doesn't fully work in DS 4.9.0.61 Release Candidate, because the Resources folder is only installed in the Studio4 folder, not also in the Studio4 Public Build folder. I could not find a DIM installer for Figure Metrics for the Public Build. There is only a Measure Metrics installer for Public Build.
Edited to add: This has all been submitted in report #208910
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3) and 4) is the result of an update - Rob added those new morphs in rsponse to user feedback as I recall.
6) is the beta in the list of DSes in the Applications tab of DIM's preferences? It was working fine for me (other than the ordering issue) when I tested previosuly.
Richard, thanks, as always, for stopping by to help!
RE 3) and 4): So does that mean that it is better to use the morphs that are configured by default (circumference ones), and that the documentation is out of date?
6) Yes, the public beta is listed in the list of DSes in DIM. See attached screenshots of what I have installed. I cannot find any Figure Metrics pacakge for the public build. If it exists, it must be tagged incorrrectly, because it doesn't show up for me with DS 4.5+ tag.
If you installed the plugin before the beta, you may need to uninstall and reinstall the plugin so it gets installed to both.
The packages named "Figure Metrics" are just the content side, only the "Measure Metrics" ones install to the application.
KAI1 and Ruphuss, I do seem to find more than my share of bugs in DS applications and content. Or, maybe I just spend more time than average documenting and reporting them.
It would be nice if there were some token of appreciation from Daz for the time and effort a user spends reporting a verified bug. Why don't you submit that as a recommendation!
I do get very frustrated sometimes when reproducing bugs and submitting bug reports. It is very time consuming. Lately, I've been doing several bug reports per week. The real frustration comes when the reported bug is never fixed. Then I feel like I've wasted my money on the product and wasted my time reporting the problem.
Indeed, I have one that has been there for months.
Fixmypcmike, thanks for the suggestions. I uninstalled all 4 packages and reinstalled them. It did not fix the problem of the missing resource files in 4.9.
The plugin itself (Measure Metrics) has a Public Build package that installs it to 4.9, and I haven't had any problem getting the plugin to open within 4.9. However, "Figure Metrics for DAZ Studio 4.5+" only installs the resources to the C:\Users\[my username]\AppData\Roaming\DAZ 3D\Studio4 folder. To be used in DS 4.9, the resources need to be installed in C:\Users\[my username]\AppData\Roaming\DAZ 3D\Studio4 Public Build. It seems like there should be a Public Build package for "Figure Metrics for DAZ Studio 4.5+".
Edit to add: The problem is NOT that Figure Metrics will not run in 4.9. The problem is that the configuration resources for the base models are not installed in 4.9, so you don't get the default configuration of morphs to measurements for the base models. If you create your own configurations when running in 4.9, they will get saved to 4.9, but the default ones are missing.
Ah, I see, yes, it's the 16684-20_Figure Metrics package that's incorrect. I'm reporting it.
That's the one!
Deleted - I meant to just edit a previous entry, not quote it.
I hate that the Quote button is so big/prominent and the edit is pretty much hidden...I do that all the time, but very often catch it before submitting the post.
2016-01-23 the problem seems to persist. I desperately need to get this to work!! appreciate any advice! BR Klaus
Have you entered your Measure Metrics serial number in the About Plugins page? You can find your serial number in your account Serial Numbers listing.
Have you cinfirmed that Measure Metrics is installed and that you entered your serial number for it - Help>About Installed plug-ins.
Thx barbult & Richard, I'm not what you might call a Power-User and I was not aware, this plugin would exspect a serial number. As I never had to enter any serial number before.
With the exeption of DAZ-studio itself of course. As none of the other installed plugins ever prompted for a serial I didn'd even know where to look for it.
I finally found it and got it to work, but the cleanup tool nevertheless freezes DAZ-Studio 4.9 when invoked. Any advice would be appreciated. BR Klaus
Has the issue of Figure Metrics scrambling measurements when one attempts to adjust them been resolved? I just bought Measure Metrics and I am having a horrible time. I am using some real-world measurements and entering them, but I end up with crazy final dimensions that are nowhere close to what I entered. I have DS 4.9. If anyone figured out why this is a problem, I would appreciate the insight! Thanks.
Are the measurements fighting each other? Is the morph linked to one measurement also affecting others?
I never was able to get Measure Metrics to work to my satisfaction. It really should be pulled from the store.
How was it not working?
So do I need to go to "Configuration" and assign all these fields before i can change measurements? Seems like we should just be able to plug in our numbers and go. The only thing i could change right away was the height option. I had to assign the should to should one in order to get the box to show.
You need to tell it which moprhs/properties to use for the measurements you want to chnage - there are presets for some figures, and you can create your own so you don't need to keep doing the same work.
So is there a list somewhere to help us know what morphs/properties should be used where? Like underbust circumference, What do we use for that? Just seems like if the catorgies were created, then the vendor could have finished by assigning the morphs. I wouldn't expect the "shoulder to shoulder" measurement to change the size of the legs. maybe i am not liking it as much because i had the mindset of this was a put in your numbers and go product, and not a fill out a map of the whole human body and then put in your numbers.