Keep Calm : There's always another Sale (Daily Sale Talk)

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  • WonderlandWonderland Posts: 7,137
    L'Adair said:
    Nath said:

    There's the item list instead of the product library, though you have to dig to find it.

    Smart content is only an issue if you use it :-p

    Is there a way to add other products not sold here, freebies or even your own creations into smart content? Smart content seems to be the easiest way to see what you actually have unless I'm missing something. When I go to the regular content pane, I have to look alphabetically if I know exactly what I want, unless you want to spend days catagorizing everything as mentioned in another thread..

    In DS v4.9, oopen the Content Library tab and click on the menu icon, (a square button with several horizontal lines and small arrow.) The resulting pop-up menu should include "Content DB Maintenance." Click on that. In the resulting pop-up window, select "Re-import Metadata..." and click on Accept. In the next pop-up window, (titled Import Meatdata,) you will see a number of options inluding a list of all products. (I usually leave everything selected!) Click on Accept.

    I don't know if you have to be connected for this to work, but after running this utility some time back, I noticed 3rd party products showing up in Smart Content. YMMV.

    Unfortunately this didn't work for me. I still have hundreds of Daz purchased items in the lost and found area...

  • HavosHavos Posts: 5,596
    L'Adair said:
    Nath said:

    There's the item list instead of the product library, though you have to dig to find it.

    Smart content is only an issue if you use it :-p

    Is there a way to add other products not sold here, freebies or even your own creations into smart content? Smart content seems to be the easiest way to see what you actually have unless I'm missing something. When I go to the regular content pane, I have to look alphabetically if I know exactly what I want, unless you want to spend days catagorizing everything as mentioned in another thread..

    In DS v4.9, oopen the Content Library tab and click on the menu icon, (a square button with several horizontal lines and small arrow.) The resulting pop-up menu should include "Content DB Maintenance." Click on that. In the resulting pop-up window, select "Re-import Metadata..." and click on Accept. In the next pop-up window, (titled Import Meatdata,) you will see a number of options inluding a list of all products. (I usually leave everything selected!) Click on Accept.

    I don't know if you have to be connected for this to work, but after running this utility some time back, I noticed 3rd party products showing up in Smart Content. YMMV.

    Unfortunately this didn't work for me. I still have hundreds of Daz purchased items in the lost and found area...

    Maybe you need to reset the database first, and then reimport the metadata as described. Just remember that a reset of the database will discard any stuff you may have set up manually, so you need to do a "Export User Data" first, and then re-import this after you have done the other steps.

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 26,280
    edited March 2017
    L'Adair said:
    Nath said:

    There's the item list instead of the product library, though you have to dig to find it.

    Smart content is only an issue if you use it :-p

    Is there a way to add other products not sold here, freebies or even your own creations into smart content? Smart content seems to be the easiest way to see what you actually have unless I'm missing something. When I go to the regular content pane, I have to look alphabetically if I know exactly what I want, unless you want to spend days catagorizing everything as mentioned in another thread..

    In DS v4.9, oopen the Content Library tab and click on the menu icon, (a square button with several horizontal lines and small arrow.) The resulting pop-up menu should include "Content DB Maintenance." Click on that. In the resulting pop-up window, select "Re-import Metadata..." and click on Accept. In the next pop-up window, (titled Import Meatdata,) you will see a number of options inluding a list of all products. (I usually leave everything selected!) Click on Accept.

    I don't know if you have to be connected for this to work, but after running this utility some time back, I noticed 3rd party products showing up in Smart Content. YMMV.

    Unfortunately this didn't work for me. I still have hundreds of Daz purchased items in the lost and found area...

    Just because a product shows up in Lost and Found doesn't mean it doesn't have any Smart Content metadata. Look at what files show up in Lost and Found for any given product. Many times it is text/instructional icons. I don't know why Daz won't assign those to some category. They just don't. Even one uncategorized file, like a link to the vendor's store, will cause a product to appear in Lost and Found. Now, I agree, there are lots of old Daz products and lots of RDNA products which have absolutely no metadata at all. Reimporting metadata will not create metadata for products that don't have any.

    Edit: I submit help requests when I find a product with metadata errors, but often I am just told that they will get around to updating all metadata eventually.

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  • jakibluejakiblue Posts: 7,281
    edited March 2017

    There's always going to be hundreds of products in the Lost and Found area. All the RDNA stuff that came over, was categorized as lost and found so they could get it all into the store quickly. It's been said there are plans to go back and start doing the metadata for them and updating them, but no idea as to timeframe.

    In other products, icons such as "visit [ ] store" that are included in products, get categorized as Lost and Found also - and if one thing in a product is done as Lost and Found then obviously the entire product will show there when you click on L&F, even if the rest of the items in it are categorized correctly. Icons with tips on use are also put there.

    Also, some [many] daz products have incorrect metadata/categorization, and you'll find one item in L&F when it clearly shouldn't be there. 

    So if even one item in a product has been categorized as L&F, the entire product will show there. So we'll never have that category entirely empty.  

    L'Adair said:
    Nath said:
     

     

    Unfortunately this didn't work for me. I still have hundreds of Daz purchased items in the lost and found area...

     

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  • ArtAngelArtAngel Posts: 1,968
    edited March 2017

    I was just looking at the various PA stores on sale and started wondering something.  What happens to a vendor's store when s/he passes away?  DraagonStorm's store is still there and her products are still being sold.  Do they ever go on sale?  Who controls the store?

    Someone posted in another thread that all proceeds go to the heirs. I would assume DAZ would control sales and such, but that's an interesting question.

    When people die they leave a will, a living trust or no legal documents. A living trust dictates who gets what and is carved in stone, so whoever named, gets whatever, without going to probate and heirs are immediately identified. A will typically goes to probate and can be challenged and when the dust finally settles, heirs are identified after a year or more. No will means state or provincial laws dictate who the heirs are. In all three cases the heirs deemed by the trust, will or state are identified and have full control over the deceased party assets.

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  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,981

    did i miss something? i'm pretty disapointed by this march madness. I don't see what is stacking...I bough some interesting things in the end of last year but I'm wondering now: why no good price on G3 pro bundles? the best i can get is 38. No, just no. I got them at 12/17 3 month ago (i don't ask for such deals but, at least something hot). But if you guys have some insigh to let me know how to get some good deal, i'd be glad to buy some new toys....cheeky

    You pretty much have to check every day. There have been a couple of good days. But by far the best so far was 2 days ago with the RuntimeDNA Daz Original items. The $1.99 items where .14 cents if you bought them individually. There where quite a few RuntimeDNA Daz Original items - most ranged from .14 cents to .88 cents. 

  • TooncesToonces Posts: 919
    Havos said:
    L'Adair said:
    Nath said:

    There's the item list instead of the product library, though you have to dig to find it.

    Smart content is only an issue if you use it :-p

    Is there a way to add other products not sold here, freebies or even your own creations into smart content? Smart content seems to be the easiest way to see what you actually have unless I'm missing something. When I go to the regular content pane, I have to look alphabetically if I know exactly what I want, unless you want to spend days catagorizing everything as mentioned in another thread..

    In DS v4.9, oopen the Content Library tab and click on the menu icon, (a square button with several horizontal lines and small arrow.) The resulting pop-up menu should include "Content DB Maintenance." Click on that. In the resulting pop-up window, select "Re-import Metadata..." and click on Accept. In the next pop-up window, (titled Import Meatdata,) you will see a number of options inluding a list of all products. (I usually leave everything selected!) Click on Accept.

    I don't know if you have to be connected for this to work, but after running this utility some time back, I noticed 3rd party products showing up in Smart Content. YMMV.

    Unfortunately this didn't work for me. I still have hundreds of Daz purchased items in the lost and found area...

    Maybe you need to reset the database first, and then reimport the metadata as described. Just remember that a reset of the database will discard any stuff you may have set up manually, so you need to do a "Export User Data" first, and then re-import this after you have done the other steps.

    Hmm, I gave this a shot (reset db and then re-import), but now I have lots of 'ps' products showing with exclamation marks. And many of my products simply show no files. See screen shots.

    I like to use the products as a way to navigate files sometimes, so I don't want to lose that functionality.

    I think I may need to uninstall daz and delete all my content and re-download it (which would take forever)...can't think of any other way to do a 'reset'.

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  • firewardenfirewarden Posts: 1,488

    I wish they'd do Utilities and Plugins or whatever it was again. Noticed a few things, but didn't pick them up, then wished I did.  Actually, it'd be cool if they'd do a few more categories, including all of those under Resources and Addons. Or everything under Places and Things.

  • L'AdairL'Adair Posts: 9,479
    edited March 2017

    Buy any combination of new releases, related items, or items from featured artist catalogs below to get

    1 for 40% OFF*, 2 or more for 50% OFF**

    The 50% off for 2 or more isn't working for the new releases, (or at least those in my cart,) nor do they trigger the 50% off for related items or FA catalog items...

    Screenshot of cart with 50% discount not being applied

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  • firewardenfirewarden Posts: 1,488
    edited March 2017

    Gift cards again! Mika must be coming out Tuesday. 

    Edited to remove foolish question about Mika. Just hope she's anime.

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  • exstarsisexstarsis Posts: 2,128

    Gift cards again! Mika must be coming out Tuesday. 

    Edited to remove foolish question about Mika. Just hope she's anime.

    Me too. I'm hoping for something between Aiko and Star, a midpoint. Though I'm also hoping if that's true there's a great deal on her....

  • firewardenfirewarden Posts: 1,488

    Me, too! wink

  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715
    edited March 2017
    ArtAngel said:

    I was just looking at the various PA stores on sale and started wondering something.  What happens to a vendor's store when s/he passes away?  DraagonStorm's store is still there and her products are still being sold.  Do they ever go on sale?  Who controls the store?

    Someone posted in another thread that all proceeds go to the heirs. I would assume DAZ would control sales and such, but that's an interesting question.

    When people die they leave a will, a living trust or no legal documents. A living trust dictates who gets what and is carved in stone, so whoever named, gets whatever, without going to probate and heirs are immediately identified. A will typically goes to probate and can be challenged and when the dust finally settles, heirs are identified after a year or more. No will means state or provincial laws dictate who the heirs are. In all three cases the heirs deemed by the trust, will or state are identified and have full control over the deceased party assets.

    I expect there is some differences between countries, but what you say should often apply. I wonder if living trusts work the same in each country, and even if all countries have them. But we're not experts, there may be exceptions, and those individuals will wisely keep quiet. :)

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  • EurocoinEurocoin Posts: 302
    nicstt said:
    ArtAngel said:

    I was just looking at the various PA stores on sale and started wondering something.  What happens to a vendor's store when s/he passes away?  DraagonStorm's store is still there and her products are still being sold.  Do they ever go on sale?  Who controls the store?

    Someone posted in another thread that all proceeds go to the heirs. I would assume DAZ would control sales and such, but that's an interesting question.

    When people die they leave a will, a living trust or no legal documents. A living trust dictates who gets what and is carved in stone, so whoever named, gets whatever, without going to probate and heirs are immediately identified. A will typically goes to probate and can be challenged and when the dust finally settles, heirs are identified after a year or more. No will means state or provincial laws dictate who the heirs are. In all three cases the heirs deemed by the trust, will or state are identified and have full control over the deceased party assets.

    I expect there is some differences between countries, but what you say should often apply. I wonder if living trusts work the same in each country, and even if all countries have them. But we're not experts, there may be exceptions, and those individuals will wisely keep quiet. :)

    Living trust? Had to look it up and while I'm no expert, I'm pretty sure here in Finland it basically does not exist. Who inherits and what is either based on inheritance law or the will of the deceased.

     

    As for the topic of this thread, I'm pretty much done with sale, not because it's not good, but because I've already spent more this past two weeks than prior 6 months. This sale is and has been an absolute nightmare, it's like Daz is looking into my wishlist and saying "let's put everything on discount so he can't resist buying it", but I have to draw the line somewhere.

  • RGcincyRGcincy Posts: 2,862

    I wish they'd do Utilities and Plugins or whatever it was again. Noticed a few things, but didn't pick them up, then wished I did.  Actually, it'd be cool if they'd do a few more categories, including all of those under Resources and Addons. Or everything under Places and Things.

    Me too! I had a cart full, then lost track of time and they were all back up in price when I went to buy so cleared the cart. Kicked myself on that one. 

  • GreybroGreybro Posts: 2,600
    edited March 2017

    So, 2 new items - Check. 2 FA items - Check. With the 10% storewide discount, should I be seeing a minimum of a %60 discount on all items?

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  • hphoenixhphoenix Posts: 1,335
    Greybro said:

    So, 2 new items - Check. 2 FA items - Check. With the 10% storewide discount, should I be seeing a minimum of a %60 discount on all items?

     

    Nope, you're using regular math, not DAZ Math.  50% for 2+ MM items, then an additional 10% off of THAT (not the original prices), results in a 55% total discount.

     

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 108,393
    edited March 2017
    hphoenix said:
    Greybro said:

    So, 2 new items - Check. 2 FA items - Check. With the 10% storewide discount, should I be seeing a minimum of a %60 discount on all items?

     

    Nope, you're using regular math, not DAZ Math.  50% for 2+ MM items, then an additional 10% off of THAT (not the original prices), results in a 55% total discount.

    For the umpteenth time - this is not Daz maths, this is maths. That is the correct value for a fifty percent discount followed by a ten percent discount.

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  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,981
    hphoenix said:
    Greybro said:

    So, 2 new items - Check. 2 FA items - Check. With the 10% storewide discount, should I be seeing a minimum of a %60 discount on all items?

     

    Nope, you're using regular math, not DAZ Math.  50% for 2+ MM items, then an additional 10% off of THAT (not the original prices), results in a 55% total discount.

    For the umpteenth time - this is not Daz maths, this is maths. That is the correct value for a fifty percent discount followed by a ten percent discount.

    This is not how it works in most sales. I used to work in sales for many years. If we had a sale that said 50% off and an additional 10% off - it would be calculated to 60% off. Most stores I've worked in and shopped in do it that way. I, and others, have every right to call it "Daz maths". If you want to disagree, that's fine, but yelling at people who call it Daz Maths isn't very cool, imo. 

  • CypherFOXCypherFOX Posts: 3,401

    Greetings,

    Just...putting this out there.  If you're a Bonus Buyer, the 10% off GC's stacks with the 'buy 3 items over $1' 10%, and gets you at least 19% off GC's.  That's a better discount rate on GC's than you'll almost ever get from DAZ, without a glitch.  (And DAZ honors glitches, too.)  If you're looking at spending more money on the back half of the March Madness sale, getting a thick GC right now is _really_ worth it.

    --  Morgan

     

  • outrider42outrider42 Posts: 3,679
    hphoenix said:
    Greybro said:

    So, 2 new items - Check. 2 FA items - Check. With the 10% storewide discount, should I be seeing a minimum of a %60 discount on all items?

     

    Nope, you're using regular math, not DAZ Math.  50% for 2+ MM items, then an additional 10% off of THAT (not the original prices), results in a 55% total discount.

    For the umpteenth time - this is not Daz maths, this is maths. That is the correct value for a fifty percent discount followed by a ten percent discount.

    Its Daz Math. If Daz wants to simplify it and use the general standard that nearly every other store in existence uses, then maybe people wont call it Daz Math. But until that day comes (fat chance,) it is what is...and its Daz Math. If that is upsetting, your grievance should be with that powers that be that continue to use such confusing sales practices.

    I spent a good while in retail. And if we used Daz Math to discount things we would have been bombarded with customer complaints. Now maybe I am an oddball, but I tend to believe making customers angry isn't good for business. I seriously don't understand why Daz wishes to continue with this scheme, in spite of the complaints. Every. Single. Time.

    Someone mentioned the "other" site earlier. Well, let me tell you I've been shopping more and more there, as they have been doing some decent sales, too. But more importantly, I'm not worried about whether or not my cart contains the correct magical combination of items for the best stacking discount. They don't do that nonsense. There are no forum threads about getting the best deals...because everybody understands them already! When I see 70% off...OMG, it actually means 70% off. No secret bonus buyer, no qualifying items, no nonsense. And this straight forward and simple method is getting more and more of my business all the time.

    Daz has some great deals, but I am getting sick and tired of having to research every single day how to best execute these sales. And even then, I still miss out on stuff, like the recent orange banner.

    I'd much rather spend that time actually learning about products and using Daz itself, than shopping the site.

    Thank you.
  • chris-2599934chris-2599934 Posts: 1,904
    edited March 2017
    CypherFOX said:

    Greetings,

    Just...putting this out there.  If you're a Bonus Buyer, the 10% off GC's stacks with the 'buy 3 items over $1' 10%, and gets you at least 19% off GC's.  That's a better discount rate on GC's than you'll almost ever get from DAZ, without a glitch.  (And DAZ honors glitches, too.)  If you're looking at spending more money on the back half of the March Madness sale, getting a thick GC right now is _really_ worth it.

    --  Morgan

     

    That's a really generous offer. Effectively an extra 20% off as many future purchases as you can afford right now.

    I've never bothered to buy gift cards before, but I've got a $50 one sitting in my cart right now...

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  • CypherFOXCypherFOX Posts: 3,401

    Greetings,

    @chris-259934 Yeah...I got something like that as well, which is why I say it's a really good time to get a GC.  Mind you, the 19% off was enough for me to think it was a really good idea, so if it changes (because I believe it's _wrong_ right now) then the 19% off should still be seen as a really good deal.

    --  Morgan

     

  • sandmanmaxsandmanmax Posts: 992
    NorthOf45 said:

    Gift cards at 10% off, combined with your MMBB discount of 10% means 19% off (0.9*0.9=0.81), the highest I've ever seen. Just include 3 (cheap!) items to trigger the deal, so almost any gift card amount is worth it (where the discount is greater than the amount you spend to get the discount in the first place). I got three PC+ for <$10, and will use the gift card to get the pricier stuff later...

    Cool!!  I was just about to ask that.  I've got some PC+ items lurking in my wishlist and I'd rather buy those than spend $20 to get my gift card.

  • mambanegramambanegra Posts: 594

    I think the 19% deal was a good deal in and of itself. I don't know if DAZ has any really huge discounts ahead, but if you knock 20% off of lots of future purchases even at the current discounted rates, that's a really big nice deal for new content. The older content, I've found, hasn't been quite as spectacular as in past sales, but factoring in 20% from gift cards, it does work out to be a nice deal. The gift cards also work on fast-grabs too, which is nice. 

  • sandmanmaxsandmanmax Posts: 992
    edited March 2017

    Ok - I bought my gift card.  For me.  Happy Mar 12 to me.  I got an email from DAZ with the gift card number.  And another email from DAZ with a different gift card number.  Checked the order.  Yup.  Only ordered one gift card.  Clicked on one.  Then clicked on on Redeem Gift Card.  And the website says it's an invalid number.  So I try the other one.  Same thing.  Anybody else having problems with gift cards?  Am I doing something wrong?  Does it take a little while for them become active?

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  • exstarsisexstarsis Posts: 2,128

    I've never actually encountered another retail store that does any kind of stacking percentage discounts.  Like, any one percentage just completely overrides a given other one. 

    ... wait, no... I think Kohl's operates like Daz. List price, constant sales, coupons that take more off at register. 

  • mambanegramambanegra Posts: 594

    Ok - I bought my gift card.  For me.  Happy Mar 12 to me.  I got an email from DAZ with the gift card number.  And another email from DAZ with a different gift card number.  Checked the order.  Yup.  Only ordered one gift card.  Clicked on one.  Then clicked on on Redeem Gift Card.  And the website says it's an invalid number.  So I try the other one.  Same thing.  Anybody else having problems with gift cards?  Am I doing something wrong?  Does it take a little while for them become active?

    There seems to be some number of folks for which this happens (though, they usually can get one or the other to work). I use a CC and I have never had this problem, but I don't know if those folks are using PayPal or CC. Did you try clicking directly from the email? It could be that if you are copy/pasting, that you accidentally are copying in extra (invisible) characters or are truncating it somehow. I always just click on the Gift Certificate number which takes me to a link where I can just click "redeem" to make it work. 

  • BlueIreneBlueIrene Posts: 1,318

    Ok - I bought my gift card.  For me.  Happy Mar 11 to me.  I got an email from DAZ with the gift card number.  And another email from DAZ with a different gift card number.  Checked the order.  Yup.  Only ordered one gift card.  Clicked on one.  Then clicked on on Redeem Gift Card.  And the website says it's an invalid number.  So I try the other one.  Same thing.  Anybody else having problems with gift cards?  Am I doing something wrong?  Does it take a little while for them become active?

    I've never bought a gift card that didn't present me with a problem. Others have said about getting two e-mails as well, suspecting PayPal payment as a factor. I pay with PayPal and have only ever got one, but it always says that the number is invalid and I have to mess about until I can get it to accept it. Consequently I've avoided gift cards until the recent discounts and had forgetten what I did to get past it, but what's working for me is rather than clicking on the link in the e-mail (which I always try first anyway), I copy the very same number from the e-mail and paste it into the box on the gift card page. For some reason submitting always works when I do this, even though the number in the box looks just the same as it does when I click on the e-mail link.

  • sandmanmaxsandmanmax Posts: 992

    OH!  surprise Just read the email. It said Click Redeem and it will be converted to a DAZ Store credit.   Clicked on Store Credit and surprise, surprise!! There it is... oh happy dance...

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