genesis male - which product do I have to buy to get the anatomical element for males?

cosmo71cosmo71 Posts: 3,609

genesis male - which product do I have to buy to get the anatomical element for males?

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  • Buy any male pro bundle devil

  • mjc1016mjc1016 Posts: 15,001

    Buy any male pro bundle devil

    Any ADULT male pro bundle...

  • Kev914Kev914 Posts: 1,143

    I could be wrong, but...I think you need a pro bundle for the base you intend to use. I don't think the elements are interchangable. At least Genesis 3 is different than the others.

    But I haven't tried to substitute them, since I don't have that need. And maybe I could, and I just don't know it. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong. Also the textures are definately different for Genesis 3.

  • LeanaLeana Posts: 13,461

    Each generation of Genesis does have its own anatomical elements, so yes, you'd need an adult "5" pro bundle for Genesis 1, "6" fo Genesis 2 Male and "7" for Genesis 3 Male.

  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,175
    edited October 2016
    KevinH said:

    I could be wrong, but...I think you need a pro bundle for the base you intend to use. I don't think the elements are interchangable. At least Genesis 3 is different than the others.

    But I haven't tried to substitute them, since I don't have that need. And maybe I could, and I just don't know it. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong. Also the textures are definately different for Genesis 3.

    Nope, the bits are interchangeable between all the adult males. Only need to buy one pro bundle. :)

    Laurie

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  • LeanaLeana Posts: 13,461
    AllenArt said:
    KevinH said:

    I could be wrong, but...I think you need a pro bundle for the base you intend to use. I don't think the elements are interchangable. At least Genesis 3 is different than the others.

    But I haven't tried to substitute them, since I don't have that need. And maybe I could, and I just don't know it. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong. Also the textures are definately different for Genesis 3.

    Nope, the bits are interchangeable between all the adult males. Only need to buy one pro bundle. :)

    All the adult males of the same generation. So you need one for each genesis version.

  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,175
    edited October 2016
    Leana said:
    AllenArt said:
    KevinH said:

    I could be wrong, but...I think you need a pro bundle for the base you intend to use. I don't think the elements are interchangable. At least Genesis 3 is different than the others.

    But I haven't tried to substitute them, since I don't have that need. And maybe I could, and I just don't know it. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong. Also the textures are definately different for Genesis 3.

    Nope, the bits are interchangeable between all the adult males. Only need to buy one pro bundle. :)

    All the adult males of the same generation. So you need one for each genesis version.

    Yes, that's what I meant. Sorry ;). If ya buy Michael 7's pro bundle, his "bits" will fit Lee 7, Gianni 7, Leo 7 and so forth :).

    Laurie

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  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,863

    Hmmm, isn't it true that with both the male and female Pro Bundles (eg Genesis 3 Pro Bundles) if you buy a character not in that Genesis 3 Pro Bundle but a Genesis 3 character of the same gender, nonetheless, you won't get the anatomical elements texture set for that character? I'm not talking about characters that don't have a anatomical elements texture sets at all.

  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,175
    edited October 2016

    Hmmm, isn't it true that with both the male and female Pro Bundles (eg Genesis 3 Pro Bundles) if you buy a character not in that Genesis 3 Pro Bundle but a Genesis 3 character of the same gender, nonetheless, you won't get the anatomical elements texture set for that character? I'm not talking about characters that don't have a anatomical elements texture sets at all.

    No, not true. I bought just Eva single (no pro bundle) and there is still a mat for the gens, if that's what you mean....

    Laurie

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  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,863
    AllenArt said:

    Hmmm, isn't it true that with both the male and female Pro Bundles (eg Genesis 3 Pro Bundles) if you buy a character not in that Genesis 3 Pro Bundle but a Genesis 3 character of the same gender, nonetheless, you won't get the anatomical elements texture set for that character? I'm not talking about characters that don't have a anatomical elements texture sets at all.

    No, not true. I bought just Eva single (no pro bundle) and there is still a mat for the gens, if that's what you mean....

    Laurie

    That's what I meant.

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    do you mean genesis 1 male?

    michael5 and victoria5 included complete with carrara pro 8.5  http://www.daz3d.com/carrara-8-5-pro

    or it did when i bought it in 2014.

     

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  • cosmo71cosmo71 Posts: 3,609
    edited October 2016

    It really sucks, that we have to pay around 200$ just to get Michael 5 Anatomical Elements. I need nothing from this Michael 5 Pro Suite Product exept M5 and the Michael 5 Anatomical Elements. The whole rest of this Pro Suit I do not want. So where is the reason that for this price?

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  • BeeMKayBeeMKay Posts: 7,019

    Contact Customer Support, they might actually be able to answer that question for you.

  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604

    threads merged

     

  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,114

    Or you wait until it's on a good sale. I think you could get a pro bundle for $40 in one of the recent sales.

     

  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 12,058
    edited October 2016

    Thankfully the females have morphs that often don't require the Pro Bundle purchase. Sadly, the males don't. I've bought a few males now and none of them have gens. It looks ...odd... for nude art. :(

    I can't afford pro bundles though. I've only bought one pro bundle and it was Lilith 6 bundle that I scored for $17. I don't think I've ever seen the genesis 3 pro bundles go that cheap though. 

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  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    should take him out to dinner first smiley mebbe flowers?

     

    geografts also in this bundle https://www.daz3d.com/genesis-michael-victoria-combo-bundle

     

  • Pack58Pack58 Posts: 750
    cosmo71 said:

    It really sucks, that we have to pay around 200$ just to get Michael 5 Anatomical Elements. I need nothing from this Michael 5 Pro Suite Product except M5 and the Michael 5 Anatomical Elements. The whole rest of this Pro Suit I do not want. So where is the reason that for this price?

    But you only "HAVE TO PAY" that much if you choose to. As an example for the last three weeks there as been the alternative to choose, instead to buy a 3 month PC+ membership for $17.50 (with a free PC+ item) or $19.20 (without) then you could have purchased the Carrara 8.5 Pro set for $37.50 (with a free PC+ item) or $39.00 (without). That would have been $55.00 for M5 with gen instead of the standard  $40.00 for M5 without gen (non sale/PC price). The rest of the stuff in the bundle is irrelevant, it's not compulsory to download it.

  • outrider42outrider42 Posts: 3,679
    Pack58 said:
    cosmo71 said:

    It really sucks, that we have to pay around 200$ just to get Michael 5 Anatomical Elements. I need nothing from this Michael 5 Pro Suite Product except M5 and the Michael 5 Anatomical Elements. The whole rest of this Pro Suit I do not want. So where is the reason that for this price?

    But you only "HAVE TO PAY" that much if you choose to. As an example for the last three weeks there as been the alternative to choose, instead to buy a 3 month PC+ membership for $17.50 (with a free PC+ item) or $19.20 (without) then you could have purchased the Carrara 8.5 Pro set for $37.50 (with a free PC+ item) or $39.00 (without). That would have been $55.00 for M5 with gen instead of the standard  $40.00 for M5 without gen (non sale/PC price). The rest of the stuff in the bundle is irrelevant, it's not compulsory to download it.

    That is missing the point entirely. There is absolutely no excuse to wall off a basic anatomical element in pro bundles or to force him to buy an ENTIRE SOFTWARE SUITE. As the op quite clearly stated, he has no use for any of the items in that pro bundle. And neither do I. These sales only happen once in a while. So if he missed that sale...too bad for him! Its stupid stuff like this that makes me rethink this whole hobby. Its a very disgusting business practice that needs to stop.
  • Pack58Pack58 Posts: 750
    edited October 2016
    That is missing the point entirely. There is absolutely no excuse to wall off a basic anatomical element in pro bundles or to force him to buy an ENTIRE SOFTWARE SUITE. As the op quite clearly stated, he has no use for any of the items in that pro bundle. And neither do I. These sales only happen once in a while. So if he missed that sale...too bad for him! Its stupid stuff like this that makes me rethink this whole hobby. Its a very disgusting business practice that needs to stop.

    No. I'm not missing that point, but it's a conversation that's been done to death and continuing it won't change anything except perhaps getting this thread locked.

    They are only available in the Pro Bundles (except G2M which comes in the Minotaur Bundle). If you want them then finding an appropriate Bundle at the best value seems the most practical option.

    EDIT: Spelling

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  • cosmo71cosmo71 Posts: 3,609
    Pack58 said:
    cosmo71 said:

    It really sucks, that we have to pay around 200$ just to get Michael 5 Anatomical Elements. I need nothing from this Michael 5 Pro Suite Product except M5 and the Michael 5 Anatomical Elements. The whole rest of this Pro Suit I do not want. So where is the reason that for this price?

    But you only "HAVE TO PAY" that much if you choose to. As an example for the last three weeks there as been the alternative to choose, instead to buy a 3 month PC+ membership for $17.50 (with a free PC+ item) or $19.20 (without) then you could have purchased the Carrara 8.5 Pro set for $37.50 (with a free PC+ item) or $39.00 (without). That would have been $55.00 for M5 with gen instead of the standard  $40.00 for M5 without gen (non sale/PC price). The rest of the stuff in the bundle is irrelevant, it's not compulsory to download it.

     

    That is missing the point entirely. There is absolutely no excuse to wall off a basic anatomical element in pro bundles or to force him to buy an ENTIRE SOFTWARE SUITE. As the op quite clearly stated, he has no use for any of the items in that pro bundle. And neither do I. These sales only happen once in a while. So if he missed that sale...too bad for him! Its stupid stuff like this that makes me rethink this whole hobby. Its a very disgusting business practice that needs to stop.

    That is exactly the point, this practice has to stop.

  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604
    cosmo71 said:
    Pack58 said:
    cosmo71 said:

    It really sucks, that we have to pay around 200$ just to get Michael 5 Anatomical Elements. I need nothing from this Michael 5 Pro Suite Product except M5 and the Michael 5 Anatomical Elements. The whole rest of this Pro Suit I do not want. So where is the reason that for this price?

    But you only "HAVE TO PAY" that much if you choose to. As an example for the last three weeks there as been the alternative to choose, instead to buy a 3 month PC+ membership for $17.50 (with a free PC+ item) or $19.20 (without) then you could have purchased the Carrara 8.5 Pro set for $37.50 (with a free PC+ item) or $39.00 (without). That would have been $55.00 for M5 with gen instead of the standard  $40.00 for M5 without gen (non sale/PC price). The rest of the stuff in the bundle is irrelevant, it's not compulsory to download it.

     

    That is missing the point entirely. There is absolutely no excuse to wall off a basic anatomical element in pro bundles or to force him to buy an ENTIRE SOFTWARE SUITE. As the op quite clearly stated, he has no use for any of the items in that pro bundle. And neither do I. These sales only happen once in a while. So if he missed that sale...too bad for him! Its stupid stuff like this that makes me rethink this whole hobby. Its a very disgusting business practice that needs to stop.

    That is exactly the point, this practice has to stop.

    After 10 years or more?    Michael 4 was released a couple of years or so before you joined the forum, and he came with no Anatomical elements in his base form.

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    y'know, there really truly nothing special about the geografts.  better to get one from rotka

  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,175

    At this point I don't think that Daz is going to be convinced otherwise, even if I do agree that every figure should come "whole". I mean, we are all adults here. But whatcha gonna do, eh? ;)

    Laurie

  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,114

    Generally I'm against bundle exclusives. I'd rather have the ability to buy everything in a bundle separately, though at a higher total cost. (Since that's the point of a bundle, getting you to commit)

    It's particularly grating when it's something as common as 'part of human bodies'

     

     

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