Vendors please don't do this
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Why are you having trouble with the store search? All you need to do is type the artist's name in the search field and it takes you right to their products.
The main complaint (although not the original one) here seems to be that the icon is impossible to remove without Connect nagging you to replace it. Correcting that wouldn't make anything harder for everyone else, it would just give users a benefit that is currently enjoyed only by those of us who use DIM or manual install.
Personally, I am using DIM to download - the download speed ist great - but I am unzipping and cleaning by hand before installing.
We need new software - Adblock plus for content bought at Daz3d. LOL
I like links to additional content, blogs, freebies - but not to the store. That is advertising. I am buying products, not advertising.
I don't have trouble with store search. I said others have complained about it. However, it is much easier to have a shortcut to a store rather than navigate multiple dropdowns or to remember how to spell a vendor's name.
Okay, then leave the link but make it possible for Connect users who wish to remove it to do so without being nagged.
Some people might not mind having a map to their favorite convenience store taped to their wall to make it easier to find it when they need more milk or Mountain Dew, but if the store owner claims that to buy his milk, I have to accept a map on my wall, it won't happen and I'll buy my milk elsewhere.
That's my computer. Don't try and force me to have something on it that I don't want.
And that's your choice; you just shouldn't ask to inconvience everyone else.
Exactly! I have rearanged pretty much everything in my runtime. Each figure (Genesis, Genesis 2 female and male ...ect. each have custom folders that seperate the type of clothing, style. The same with shoes and poses. Yeah it might be a little overboard but if I am looking for a short skirt set I know exactly where to find it now. No looking through vendor names or having to open three other folders to find it. And I don't have to deal with vendor icons or store links. It is easier to do a little extra at the start to make finding things as easy as possible.
Thats not a bad idea! I can create a folder that all of my DIM downloads go to and then it would streamline the process more.
+1 on the adblocker! I would pay for it and never think twice. I agree with you 100% we are purchasing the product we shouldn't be forced to deal with aditional advertising as well.
I think that every time I put a movie in and it goes straight to promos for other movies! Or equally annoying, the legal notices... in several different languages! lol
In a way yes, but to me the links the PA's are leaving are like putting them in key spots of the movie like a TV commercial.
I would suggest those who are interested in having the ability to remove unwanted icons in products installed with Connect submit a feature request -- it would be useful in other cases as well, and would give everyone the same flexibility they have when using DIM or installing manually.
Just to be pedantic about terminology: vanity folders are folders on disk, not categories. There are no vanity categories (unless the end user creates them).
Lack of consistency is a general problem with 3D content and it causes a lot of unnecessary trouble. It doesn't take much work to be consistent when it comes to folders and files but many vendors are rather careless about this. Just the latest example I came across:
They could also put the link to the store there.
While some might classify vendor name folders as "vanity", this potential vendor sees them as an asset to content creation and packaging. It's a lot easier to find a folder with my vendor name in it than to remember product names, especially when working on more than one at a time.
It comes down to whether people want to use DAZ Studio as a software tool or an extension of the DAZ 3D store. DAZ seems to be moving to make it both with connect ....which doesn't make sense to me since you would want to shop at the website to get all the sales/bargains.... unless they plan to pop all that up in the software also.
I agree. user manuals are very useful. especially when it deals with Scripts and lighting rigs. etc.
Ironicaly connect would be a good reason to not include something like this because you can already use it to look in the store if you want. And as has been mentioned it is in the core files and has nothing to do with connect. All that said, if I have bought any products that have these I never even noticed it so I'm not sure how many people will be upset about it.
I have never once used a link from Daz Studio to go to a Vendor's store.
I also have never once had a problem with the link being there. I've never accidentally clicked on one, and their presence does not clutter up my organizational system. Primarily because I don't include them with my custom categories.
I can empathize with not being able to get rid of them, though, especially if system space is already at a premium. (After a while, all those little files add up.)
When you're working on your own computer, of course it's a good idea. But you don't need to maintain that file structure when sending it off to QA. Just move the product named folder outside the vendor named folder in libraries (geometries and textures aren't a big deal and I expect them to be under a vendor's own name to avoid overwriting something like 'silver-refl.jpg' )
Similarly, I don't mind a vendor-name suffix on a folder, as it doesn't affect where it goes in my list, but a prefix does.
'Glass Jar SW' would be easily found when looking for a glass jar, but 'SW Glass Jar' would be in the wrong part of the alphabet.
But like I said before, I redo my folders anyway at install, so I remove vendor folders/prefixes (though not vendor suffixes if already there
While I see what you're saying, to me doing what you suggest is an inconsistency to be avoided.
I'm prefering DIM and categories, but in Categories, I can decide to put the store ads into a "trash" Folder and never have to see them agagain, if I wish to do so. I'm not doing the Manual install if I can avoid it, as it takes a lot more time than sorting into categories
Though looking at the mess that is "MyDAZLIbray" sometimes makes me wish to just entirely delete the thing and install everything manually and neatly.....
Here is a small trick that I use for organizing content; as well as removing vanity folders and store link icons:
The left side of the image is what my directory structure looks like on disk. The middle and right are how it appears in DS:
What I did was:
1. Install everything into one massive DS content directory (until the drive ran out of space; more on this later).
2. Copy everything under that content directory, exept for anything obviously system related (i.e. RUNTIME, etc.) to a new directory.
3. Within this new directory I sorted out the files the way I wanted them to appear. Moving things to the top level, removing those vanity directories, etc.
4. In DS I set this directory as my first content directory, this way all of my Auto-Adapted geometry files go to that directory structure.
It took a bit of work to organize everything, but once done, it was done. And it is easy to keep ontop of as new items get installed. Also, when my primary content drive ran out of space, I was able to start installing to a secondary content drive and merge those items into the "Sorted" structure with no extra effort.
I know you can accomplish this with Categories and such, but I moved away from that after a database crash caused me to loose all of that work.
Plus this method allows me to transport the structure to my other workstation and not have to re-categorize everything.
I make regular backups of my database for exactly the crash reasons, and store them on a separate drive. That way, the only content that has to be re-sorted is the very recent one, a handful of items at most.
There must be a blindingly obvious reason why we're not all doing that instead of mucking about with databases that I'm not seeing. Your method makes perfect sense to me :)
Two more details to add...
Hard Drive Space: My base content directories amount to 565 GBs of space. The sorted directory is 30GBs. So the HD space hit isn't too bad.
Poser Conent: There is no easy way to sort this, so I made a secondary sorted directory and created Hard Links to lead to the items.
That they exist no; but mjc1016 said it very well; I've quoted their post above yours.
Connect does lots I disapprove of, the main one haveing a DRM component.
Of course it had better be damn fine me using a product as I wish, not as others feel I should. I would appreciate a less patronising tone.
Asking for the option to remove it, isn't inconveniencing anyone else; why is it so difficult to understand.
Too cluttered and confusing to a new user. The defaults are actually easier to understand, since new.folks may not understand what "Genesis" is, but "People" is something they can relate to.