THANK YOU, Aave Nainen

nelsonsmithnelsonsmith Posts: 1,337
edited July 2016 in The Commons

Seems like more people are looking at threads and actually listening to what people are saying they want, and delivering products rather than reasons why those products won't sell.

Free Spirit Hair is something I've been looking for for the entirety of 2016,  and many other people besides myself have mentioned the desire for a similar item in the New products wishlist forum.  Even though I've already spent my alotted quota for the month,  FSH and one of the morph packs didn't even spend time in my wishlist, but went straight to my computer.

I'm hoping all the people out there who asked for this will support it whole heartedly, and make what must have been a very time consuming task more than worthwhile for the creator.

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  • FSMCDesignsFSMCDesigns Posts: 12,848

    Pretty expensive hair at $45 list (includes the morph packs which I never understood why those need to be sold seperately). So is this dynamic hair or something else?

  • MattymanxMattymanx Posts: 6,998

    Free spirit hair is done differntly then other hairs.  There is the main hair and then several additional layers that the end user can choose to use or not use.  They all have the same movement morphs but can be adjusted seperately.  So you can spread the hair out better.  And then there is also the two additional morph packs that add even more.  You can do a big head of hair or a lot less with it too.  Each layer has its own mat zones so you can colour it how you wish just with the included colour presets or be even more creative with UHT 1 or 2.

     

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  • BurstAngelBurstAngel Posts: 768

    I only bought the main hair for now, I wanted to take at look at it before I buy the morph packs. This looks very interesting, and may be a solution to solving alot of the issues we have with posing long hair.

  • FSMCDesignsFSMCDesigns Posts: 12,848

    Thanks for the extra info Matty!

  • nelsonsmithnelsonsmith Posts: 1,337
    edited July 2016

    Just looking at the download size this package is huge compared to other hair styles (568 MBs for the main hair and one morph pack).   If your characters only pose in mainly upright,  windless scenarios a  person may not find much need for it, but for people placing figures in more dynamic situations, this is just what the doctor ordered!

    Hoping we get one down the road with a shoulder length hair style.

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  • MattymanxMattymanx Posts: 6,998

    Thanks for the extra info Matty!

    You're wlecome

  • Aave NainenAave Nainen Posts: 1,108

    Thanks so much for your support of this product!  This hair project was a 5 month effort overall,  I had to set it aside more than once and think on how I could make it work but I am nothing if not stubborn :).  The way this hair works is something I have wanted for my own use and hoped others would love it as much as I do.  Would be great to see more renders when people have had the chance to play/work with it,  as it is a tremendous amount of fun and the morphs can work across multiple figures.  I actually auto-fit it to the Genesis 3 Male as well in my experiments...very Fabio effect!   It doesn't hurt either to pose your figure then run through the morphs....even when for a different pose the morphs can look pretty cool!   

    Seems like more people are looking at threads and actually listening to what people are saying they want, and delivering products rather than reasons why those products won't sell.

    Free Spirit Hair is something I've been looking for for the entirety of 2016,  and many other people besides myself have mentioned the desire for a similar item in the New products wishlist forum.  Even though I've already spent my alotted quota for the month,  FSH and one of the morph packs didn't even spend time in my wishlist, but went straight to my computer.

    I'm hoping all the people out there who asked for this will support it whole heartedly, and make what must have been a very time consuming task more than worthwhile for the creator.

     

  • Aave NainenAave Nainen Posts: 1,108

    The main hair product comes with a set of pose morphs and lots of adjustment and movement morphs which makes it quite comparable price wise with other hair I think?. The extra morph packs are sold separately because they were a tremendous amount of work to do :)  I hope you decide to give it a go!  

    If you are familiar with my clothing sets the hair works much the same way,  not dynamic but dynamically draped then loaded onto the hair for realistic morphing to match poses.

    Pretty expensive hair at $45 list (includes the morph packs which I never understood why those need to be sold seperately). So is this dynamic hair or something else?

     

  • BurstAngelBurstAngel Posts: 768

    Can you give some tips on the steps to use the hair. Alot of times, it can be frustrating to find the right morphs to use once you pose the figure, especially when the hair a tons of morph options.

    I haven't had a chance to take a look at it yet, but does the hair have bones as well as all these draping morphs?

  • MattymanxMattymanx Posts: 6,998

    Can you give some tips on the steps to use the hair. Alot of times, it can be frustrating to find the right morphs to use once you pose the figure, especially when the hair a tons of morph options.

    I haven't had a chance to take a look at it yet, but does the hair have bones as well as all these draping morphs?

    For myself, I honestly just try all the dials and try to make it look good

  • BurstAngelBurstAngel Posts: 768

    Yeah that's how I do it :) just takes awhile, especially when you are learning a new hair.

  • Aave NainenAave Nainen Posts: 1,108

    Basically you use it the same as my clothing morphs,  I do recommend loading the FSHair All-Easy Morph version because that version will apply the draped morph as it applied to the main hair, and some of the shaping morphs to the hair and the strand sets all-at-once.  

    Load your figure,  then the FSHair All-Easy Morph,  apply the pose to the figure then dial in the corresponding morph.  After that you can select the hair or individual strand sets in the scene tab and go back into parameters tab if you want to apply wind morphs on top of the pose matching morph.

    If you start with the Fashion Model poses that come with the Genesis 3 Female you can get a good idea of how it all works.

    The hair doesn't have any bones for movement but does have quite a number of shaping and movement morphs.  These work well on not so complex poses like what are in the Always A Lady pose set.

  • BurstAngelBurstAngel Posts: 768

    Thanks!

  • SloshSlosh Posts: 2,391

    I was hoping someone would start a render thread for Free Spirit Hair, but so far I don't see one.  So, I wish to share a render I did while testing the hair for Aave.  This hair has so many morphs in it... if you can't get it posed the way you want, then it's just not possible!  wink

     

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  • Jan19Jan19 Posts: 1,109
    Slosh said:

    I was hoping someone would start a render thread for Free Spirit Hair, but so far I don't see one.  So, I wish to share a render I did while testing the hair for Aave.  This hair has so many morphs in it... if you can't get it posed the way you want, then it's just not possible!  wink

    Goodness gracious, I do believe I see ombre. laugh​  That looks good.

    Interesting looking hair; much too intriguing to pass up. 

     

  • BlueIreneBlueIrene Posts: 1,318
    edited July 2016

    I had quite a few reservations about this hair, but after Aave took the time to address some of them I figured that the product had enough potential advantages for me to go ahead and buy - it's not as if there isn't a returns policy if I can't make it work for me.

    This is my first attempt at doing something with the hair (using UHT2 shaders. Not because there's anything wrong with the original mats - I haven't tried them - but because I'm so addicted to UHT2 that it goes on pretty much all hair as a matter of course now!). I'm not entirely satisfied with the hair in the attached image yet for a few reasons, but happy to concede that it's coming together better than expected. I do want this hair to work out, but think I will have to spend more time familiarising myself with all the options if I'm to get the best from it. I will probably have another crack at this image later as the mountain of housework I am avoiding has finally become too much of a distraction :) In the meantime, if Aave, Slosh or anyone else has suggestions for improvement, I'm all ears :)

     

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  • BurstAngelBurstAngel Posts: 768

    This hair is ... beautiful, I just load the base hair and it drapes so nicely. I highly recommend adding each peice as needed. Add the base, pose it and if you want more, add another peice, pose and so on. I still think long hair should have bones to help with posing, but I'm very pleased with it. This pic is just the base hair with the wet morph to make it more smooth.

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  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 10,464
    edited July 2016

    Yes, it is a nice hair.

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  • Jan19Jan19 Posts: 1,109

    This hair is ... beautiful, I just load the base hair and it drapes so nicely. I highly recommend adding each peice as needed. Add the base, pose it and if you want more, add another peice, pose and so on. I still think long hair should have bones to help with posing, but I'm very pleased with it. This pic is just the base hair with the wet morph to make it more smooth.

    Do you apply each pose morph to each piece of the hair or just "hair all?"

     

     

  • BurstAngelBurstAngel Posts: 768
    edited July 2016

    Yes, you can pose each piece separately and the poses are nicely grouped and well labeled. All the peices "fit to" the main hair, the base is fitted to GF3. All you need to do is highlight the main hair if you want to affect all the parts at once. If you want to fine tune it you can select the individual parts and pose it separately.

     

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  • Aave NainenAave Nainen Posts: 1,108

      

    Jan19 said:

    Do you apply each pose morph to each piece of the hair or just "hair all?"

     

     

    If you load the base hair and then individual strand sets you'll need to apply the morphs to each one,  loading FSHair All you will still need to apply morphs to each separately but offset and placement of the strands front to back are set up to work well together.  If you load FSHair All-Easy Morph the strand sets are all "Fit To" the FSHair base so all of the pose matching morphs (and some of the shaping morphs where it made sense) will apply to all at once.  Just be sure to select the Free Spirit Hair in the scene tab so that the morphs show up in Parameters tab for you to dial in.  When you use the FSHair All-Easy Morph I have it set up so that on the strand sets the morphs that you can dial in separately will show up and all others will be hidden.

    This "complex" set of guidelines will make much more sense when you are actually using the hair....lol......I get a little "wordy" so I hope you'll excuse me for that!

  • Jan19Jan19 Posts: 1,109

    Yes, you can pose each piece separately and the poses are nicely grouped and well labeled. All the peices "fit to" the main hair, the base is fitted to GF3. All you need to do is highlight the main hair if you want to affect all the parts at once. If you want to fine tune it you can select the individual parts and pose it separately.

    Thank you. smiley

    If you load the base hair and then individual strand sets you'll need to apply the morphs to each one,  loading FSHair All you will still need to apply morphs to each separately but offset and placement of the strands front to back are set up to work well together.  If you load FSHair All-Easy Morph the strand sets are all "Fit To" the FSHair base so all of the pose matching morphs (and some of the shaping morphs where it made sense) will apply to all at once.  Just be sure to select the Free Spirit Hair in the scene tab so that the morphs show up in Parameters tab for you to dial in.  When you use the FSHair All-Easy Morph I have it set up so that on the strand sets the morphs that you can dial in separately will show up and all others will be hidden.

    This "complex" set of guidelines will make much more sense when you are actually using the hair....lol......I get a little "wordy" so I hope you'll excuse me for that!

    So this hair calls for a little imagination. :-)  No problem with the words.  I think I'm getting the general idea.

    The All Easy Morphs are great; I like the draping and noticed that the hair fit the pose.

    Thanks!

  • 3dLux3dLux Posts: 1,231

    Free Spirit hair is amazing:  it has  weight and substantial volume like real hair! surprise yes heart

    And the fibermesh eyebrows from Oh my Brows at Rendo go with it perfectly laughwink

  • Jan19Jan19 Posts: 1,109

    I like this hair, too.  On the Easy Morph now, but the other options look promising.

     

     

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  • BurstAngelBurstAngel Posts: 768

    Here's a small pic I cooked last night.

     

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  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,095
    Has anyone had success using this hair on older models?
  • Jan19Jan19 Posts: 1,109

    I tried to quote your post, Will, but the quote won't act right.

    But no, I haven't tried the older models w/this hair.  I tend to stick w/G3F.

    Maybe someone else...?

  • seeker273seeker273 Posts: 449
    Jan19 said:

    I like this hair, too.  On the Easy Morph now, but the other options look promising.

     

     

    You sold me on this one! I wasn't too impressed until your image, love it :)

  • RAMWolffRAMWolff Posts: 10,366

    Any way to move the part from side to side?  I know very few gals that use a middle part these days so that's one strike against my buying this if the part is stationary!

  • Aave NainenAave Nainen Posts: 1,108
    RAMWolff said:

    Any way to move the part from side to side?  I know very few gals that use a middle part these days so that's one strike against my buying this if the part is stationary!

    No there isn't,  the way in which this hair is constructed doesn't allow for that.  I may have other hair sets in the works and will keep a side part style in mind....I'm rather hoping to do a series depending on how well this one is recieved.

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