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I can only imagine what the future is cooking for us ..
...this is exactly what I am afraid of with the Titan-X out of production. With any service like ebay or Amazon, "buyer beware" is a good philosophy to have.
Just checked Newegg and all Titan-X GPUs from air cooled to the Hydro Copper are "out of stock". I hate forced obsolescence.
I lost just time here , not really the money I never purchase anything without buyer protection soon you will not even get one if you want
I just hope that Pascal perform well for you guys that is all what counts
...to support Pascal for my needs would requrie a more expensive system than I already designed to support the Titan-X. It also means going back to just a quad core i7 and slower memory (2100 instead of 2800) in dual instead of quad channel mode (and most likely no 128 GB memory support), which would have an impact on raytrace rendering in 3DL and Carrara. I know of someone who brought a 64GB Mac Pro (last generation) to its knees with a render job that involved a fair amount of reflectivity.
I don't see why they halted distribution of the Titan-X when I still can get a "new" 4 GB GTX 740 at Newegg or Fry's.
They made mistake with Titan-Z not learned then with Titan X and finally learned that the cards was not what the majority needed , so now I think they made a series that everyone is happy with , the lower budged folks and the workstation gtx users
so what problem with the designed system ? you can still use upcoming 1080ti or Titan-P with more Vram and cores , less card needed less resources, that was your problem ? I think with your huge scenes and printing you will still need a good powerful CPU and good memory to load it to the VRAM no matter what so I would not settle down to 4 cores, 2133Mhz are fine as they will run at 2600Mhz with XMP 2 profile automatic , buying 2800Mhz is waste of money it will auto OC your CPU much higher to work proper too with XMP profile
the new technology should help us but in place it create more headaches sometimes
...yeah the Titan-Z was ridiculously priced for what it offered. Basically it was two Titan cards permanently linked together that advertised 12 GB of memory but in actuality was 2 x 6 GB (and took up two slots). The only benefit was it had double the cores of a standard Titan
The recommendation for Pascal that I read was that the 6700 Skylake series i7 would be the optimal CPU. For now there is only a duo and quad core version, which is not to say that dwn the road a Hex or Octo core CPU might be available (though when and for how much is the question) Unfortunately, Skylake uses the LGA 1151 socket which does not support quad channel memory and the limit for the compatible memory is lower (2133) than the that for 3.5 GHz Broadwell Hex core (actually 2400 not 2800) I am currently considering. All boards with this socket only have four 288 pin memory slots that support a total of 64 GB whereas I can get an LGA 2011-v3 MB that with eight 288 pin slots that supports up to 128 GB. Some do not even have multiple PCI 3.0 x 16 slots.
You are correct with the 2400 , Asus have nice MoBos that support multiple PCI-e 3.0 like the Deluxe/31.USB and 128GB actually 3 and I tested it not bad , I liked the Asus workstation Mobo forgot the name it support 4 x PCI-e x 16 but not cheap and hard to get as it is constantly out of stock , MSI Godlike I am runing now support 4 and 128GB all 2011-v3 socket X99 but not cheap with 4 PCI-e , if I could get the Asus workstation mobo I would but it was out of stock for so long I had not time to wait anymore so I go for the MSI Godlike , if I Used only 3 cards I would stay with Asus Deluxe/31.USB as I like it too , I tested Gigabyte mobos and did not really feel it too much issues with the bios and bad customer services they still did not reply back from my tickets since 1 month ago as I had issues with DDR4 and this board . Never solved , returned .
Ok found it : https://www.asus.com/us/Commercial-Servers-Workstations/X99E_WSUSB_31/
check it out as it offer good stuff for graphic workstation systen
...looks sweet. My current system uses an ASUS X-58. Been rock solid for years. I'm totally sold on their boards.
As I am always into expandability, the extra PCI slots would become populated in time.
Yeah more expensive than others, but yes, well worth it particularly as I originally was considering a dual socket 2011-V3 server MB and two 8 core Xeons (that only clocked at 2.6 GHz yet were more than twice the cost of the faster Hex Core I am looking at).
...and Newegg currently has them in stock.
just been reading about the new titan rumours with 2 versions 6gb and 12gb at 300 to 350w so wild guess a pc using 850w power supply not be enough? like you'd need maybe the 1500w power supply for a pc with 1 or 2 of these cards as well as a high end cpu in the aticle they suggest i7 6950x so it'd be probably be pretty costly and power hungry so that would mean the 1080s would still be a very good choice for a decent high end all ounder card for 3d creation, iray, graphics design, photo/video editing and gaming?
oh this is the article read there are several others of course http://hothardware.com/news/nvidia-geforce-gtx-titan-p-50-percent-faster-than-gtx-1080
so question to any who has the 1080s or 1070s though reckon most would have gone 1080. How are you all going with the new cards? Even though we can't iray yet how are they going in other areas like 3dl I assume cards are used for that renderer besides cpu, video work, photo editing - photoshop/paintshop/other, 3d creation programs, gaming and any other activities?
They failed to place a 1 in front of the 6... ^_-
12, 16 are currently the most often rumored VRAM sizes.
One source showed charts that the GTX 1080Ti will offer 12 GB VRAM and the Titan 24 GB VRAM. But I am very reluctant to give them much credit at the moment.
Not all sources agree about the VRAM type: GDDR5X or HBM2 might be possible.
Not all sources agree about power connection and consumption: some say 6 + 8 pin (350w) some write 8 + 8 pin and up to 375w per card.
Whatever you save on do not save on the power supply.
Three years ago people told me that in theory 3 Titans draw around 900w. To be save the workstation builder suggested to use 1'200w power supply.
After a year or so the power supply started to behave strangly and the workstation randomly did not start up. We agreed to upgrade to 1'500w.
Things have been running smoothly since...
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a computer that needs a 1500w power supply is not an option for many australians as it is incompatible with standard powerpoints being only 10amps and plug is completely different and wont fit which requires and electriction to install new wall connections which for most people require permission from housing if they live in one of those or their landlord if private which are very unlikely going to give so unless they are very lucky and own their place they're outa luck. I have no idea what the highest w can have that will be compatible most computers availible here power supplies are 625w, 180w, 500w, and one I been looking at 850w though this place has other models that offer 1000w-1200-up but like said don't know max ps can use in our connections but 850w should be good maybe 1000 models doubt higher but 1500 no so gotta select builds based on power. As for cards well premade store comps and custom ones most use gt730 for graphics design high end pc so they say (my v17 nitro lap has gtx 850m) and the doomsday ultimate gamer uses a standard 970 overclocked - gaming computers here have best specs, Few places now offer at least one 1070s and 1080s
for one card the 850W is fine for 2 cards not really as we don;t know how much power is going to be used while rendering and leaving the system with just 150W will be too risky and if you want to use the better CPU then not even possible you will need the 1000W at last to be safe with 2 cards and 140W CPU
8 + 8 pin and up to 375w per card. is more realistic scenario it will be not possible to use 6+8 with this core speed and VRAM since the FTW 1080 already have 8+8 pin so faster Pascal cards than that can't get less for my logic .
thanks I thought that would be the case even if like the 1070/80s the new titans used less power I thought you'd still need the bigger power supply at least for two of them plus a beefed up computer in other areas bet they'll cost a bit too maybe almost double a 1080 here that'll probably be between $2-$3000 wonder if they'll only be up to two cards too since they did that with the 1070/80s or maybe the new titans will be single cards only with no sli option
3DL in DAZ Studio doesn't use GPU. It's CPU only. The full 3Delight renderer I believe supports OpenCL, but I could be wrong.
Gaming on my 1080 GTX is very smooth, even at 4k. Firestrike (regular, 1080p resolution) was close to 18000 at stock clocking on my 1080 GTX.
OpenGL for the vewport , OpenCL is used with DS plugin like Reality to Luxrender
...what gets me is the HBM Titan P (if that is a leaked photo) would still have the same form factor as a GDDR5 GPU. Normally HBM memory is stacked on both sides of the GPU processor (see below) thus allowing for a smaller form factor (about half length of current cards)
Also I can understand how 12 GB would work with HBM 2 as each individual memory chip in the stack is 1 GB (resulting in a 4 x "3 stack" configuration) Hard to envision how thy could do 6 GB in that configuration unless they use 500MB HBM 1 chips.
maybe is fake , or Titan-P will have 18GB or 32GB as I expect another 18 chips on the other side with the 3800 cores would be not bad
The card is expected to be based on the GP100 silicon, and could likely come in two variants - 16 GB and 12 GB. The two differ by memory bus width besides memory size. The 16 GB variant could feature four HBM2 stacks over a 4096-bit memory bus; while the 12 GB variant could feature three HBM2 stacks, and a 3072-bit bus. This approach by NVIDIA is identical to the way it carved out Tesla P100-based PCIe accelerators, based on this ASIC. The cards' TDP could be rated between 300-375W, drawing power from two 8-pin PCIe power connectors.
The GP100 and GTX TITAN P isn't the only high-end graphics card lineup targeted at gamers and PC enthusiasts, NVIDIA is also working the GP102 silicon, positioned between the GP104 and the GP100. This chip could lack FP64 CUDA cores found on the GP100 silicon, and feature up to 3,840 CUDA cores of the same kind found on the GP104. The GP102 is also expected to feature simpler 384-bit GDDR5X memory. NVIDIA could base the GTX 1080 Ti on this chip.
Titan P could be $1349 for 12GB and $1799 for 16GB. Source: My speculation
...AMD's 4 GB HBM 1 card was half the length of a conventional GDDR5 card.
that would make the two new titans about $3000+ then Australian
...AMD's 4 GB HBM 1 card was half the length of a conventional GDDR5 card.
For reference, this is the size of that PCB. The size of a pen. It is designed to fit 8 onto a server motherboard.
..here is the Fury X, Just slightly more than half the length of a conventional GDDR5 card due to the integrated liquid cooling system.
That's not a 'leaked' Titan-P. That's the nVidia Tesla P100, the card being used only for the deep-learning automotive stuff currently.
https://devblogs.nvidia.com/parallelforall/inside-pascal/
...yes I am aware of that as the Tesla P100 s the only HBM 2 GPU currently in production. However, the physical architecture for an HBM 2 graphics GPU will be pretty much the same. Look at the current generation Tesla cards and they are the same size as a GDDR5 graphics GPU.
If you take a look at the pic of the Fury X I posted above you will indeed see even with the integrated liquid cooling shell, it is a smaller form factor than a GDDR5 card.
Knowing nVidia's fuzzy timelines, I wouldn't be surprised if Titan P is to be GDDR5x instead of HBM, and "mainstream" HBM products to Volta.
IIRC, Pascal was a relatively "recent" addition to their roadmaps too.
...that would actually be a disappointment as well as I feel, a bad step since AMD has already got the jump almost a year ago when they released a consumer GPU using the HBM memory configuration. Granted it was only 4GB of HBM 1 however now that HBM 2 is available I wouldn't be surprised if they don't go after the 1080 and Titan-X market with HBM 2 cards of their own (particularly as the Titan X is now out of production as well as out of stock at the major vendors).
I do believe Nvidia was right in waiting for HBM 2 development as it allows for more memory in teh same small form factor, however stalling it off any more could work against them should AMD drop a couple HBM 2 cards on the market with 8, 12, and possibly even 16 GB (the latter most likely in their Firepro line).
Sadly to Nvidia, us enthusiasts seem to be small potatoes to compared to the gaming and professional studio markets so we will be the last to see any improvement. Once they go the HBM route, most likely we will see it first in the Quadro line before it finally filters down to us.
Pity, lower power consumption, better memory limit, bandwidth, and clock speed all in a package about 60% the size of a current GDDR5 GPU would be so welcome.
That same small form factor is also being used in the 1060 GTX. Evaluation boards (of the Founders Edition) have already reached reviewers who have posted videos. It's just the fan shroud that extends the card past it to the 'full size' card form factor. Form factor is more a function of cooling requirements and power consumption (which requires more components on the board.)