Alien Characters with Breasts and Nipples
RCTSpanky
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I really like the creations of RawArt, but there's one question I always have, when I see Alien Characters. Why have they Breasts and Nipples the same way like female and male people from our smart planet? Same for their intimate parts. I wish sometimes the creators would also have more fantasy for the whole body instead "just" for head, arms and legs.
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I thought the same, but my concern was the ears, I thought they were too human. Then again, I couldn't pass on the bundle nevertheless. I'm such a sucker for exotic specimen.
Because they are similar to mamals, and reproduce in the same way. :)
My most recent post on deviant art is of a fairy; she (if she is a she) doesn't have a stomach button, or anything else mamallian (which can't be seen in the image) as the fairy is not a mammal.
Convergent evolution is possible; and if as some scientists have been speculating, and that the Universe is infinit, then everything exists in the Universe - a weird and scary though.
Somewhere out there is a planet populated by walking mattresses with nipples.
My guess is that the reason the alien figures have those parts is because people are into that kind of thing and expect those sorts of familiarities.
Sort of like... No, I'm not going to go there.
The new grey aliens by RawArt are hybrids. See description
;)
So in this case... ears an breasts an nipples are ok .... and I think there are unhuman aliens in the 3D world.... but I don't dislike the human aliens.... they are useful and in movies there are often similar.
So..... and who had ever seen how aliens look like? ;) ;) ;)
The Grey aliens are hybrids, so human features would be natural.
But that aside.....I have been doing this for many years, and during that time I have expiremented with different styles to my creatures, some more human, some less human, and there seems to be much larger interest in creatures that have more human features. Features that people can relate to. It makes it much easier for creating art that can emote feelings and emotions.
That doesnt mean I wont make creatures that wont have such distinctive gender roles. I enjoy doing that too, it lets me get more extreme. But sometimes I have to give the public what they want (and I base my statistics on sales numbers, not forum posts, because that is a much more reliable figure to work with)
Rawn
Here's the science fiction trope I've always been puzzled over. The hideous alien beast monster who falls in love/lust over the comely human female. That has just never made any sense to me at all (and was the actual basis of my semi-defunct webcomic). If these creatures look hideously grotesque by our standards of beauty it is only reasonable to assume that we look equally as grotesque to them.
Like I wonder if other Hutts looked at Jaba with his attractive, nubile humanoid slave-girls and thought, "My god, that sick bastard is into that? That's disgusting. What a freaking pervert."
I feel like that'd fit his character really well though.
The Aliens in the first Sci-Fi-Movies has always look like humans on two legs with two arm and a single head and these have of course our image of aliens visitors dominated. Back then there was just only costumes and masks for the performers.
The same applies to the superheroes from another planets like Superman. Therefore, the image of human extraterrestrials was taken partly in later films such as Star Wars. "Real" aliens you see in Star Wars also only since the digital publications.
But I like these human aliens and when they sell more than other characters I could imagine, I would also do more like this to pay my bills.
Not even mammalian aliens need to have humanoid breasts.
Reminds me of all the grousing about Dragonborn in D&D. ;) (Reptiles with breasts?!?)
I'm glad Reptilian doesn't have nipples, at least! Hee hee.
And the thing is, there's no reason aliens would necessarily have anything like a humanoid form, let alone nipples and whatnot. But a lot of people want space opera, fantasy, and lots of other things with a standard of human-like aliens.
Also aren't they Genesis figures? Turn the nipples or breasts on or off and make them massive or nonexistent like you would with any other character?
I bought the male hybrid. Want to try for the typical androgynous gray alien. Figure it would be easier to do with the male because of the chest.
Didn't an episode of Star Trek try to address this by saying that planets were seeded with the same source DNA or something? :P
I can't place whether it was a movie or the tv show, but I'm "pretty sure" it was Star Trek: Generations...Really upset the Klingons to discover they were related to humans... And the thing they were in a race to find turned out to not be a weapon!
I think it was a Next Generation episode.
I think there was a line in the old 'Time Bandits' movie to similar effect about why men would have nipples.
Anyway, humanoid aliens are a lot easier for most people to relate to and imagine, and I think that's why they're the most popular type of alien in popular culture. Intelligent life forms may or may not exist elsewhere in the universe. While there's no reason to assume that ETs would be humanoid by default (after all, dolphins are arguably smarter than humans), it's hard to imagine a technologically dependent species that doesn't have some of the structural advantages of the human form.
Yes, had the actor who played Tara King in the Avengers as a Cardassian.
I feel like an ape style shape would be a lot more efficient than a human. I don't think there's any real advantage to standing up all the time?
Not having the option of moving non-bipedaly seems to me like a definite loss.
On average, a typical monkey type thing can move on all fours or just feet, feet are also more dextrous, has tail for balance, still able to use tools with hands, all while being much stronger and faster than a human.
I remember learning that we used to have a much better sense of smell too, but we lost it around the time we learned to domesticate dogs - theirs was better so we stopped relying on our own.
Gee, when you really think about it, humanoid bodies aren't much good. I guess we pack into trains and things better?
We are good for long-distance walking too.
Nope to both - the idea was first put forth in a TOS episode. Kirk objected, mentioning how Earth had evidence we evolved on our own, but Spock explicitly said that Vulcans had evidnce they were deposited there late in their evolution.
It might have been EXPANDED on later in the evolution of the show, but the idea was first put forth in TOS.
Meanwhile, if you make something TOO alien, it simply won't sell. Make gunshots sound like real gunshots and moviegoers will complain. Make a Bald Eagle sound like a bald eagle and not a red tailed hawk, and people will complain. It's kinda sad, yes, but reality is unrealistic.
Just for the record......I think the Trek episode being mentioned is "The Chase" from TNG
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Chase_(Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation)
;)
Ix, the advantage of being bipedal is that it frees up our hands; gorillas tend to drag things rather than carry them. With hands now freed to do stuff; there is an evolutionary pressure to have our brains develop to do stuff. There was a horrible book when I was was young called Day of the Dolphin. It posited dolphins might have minds like ours because they have a greater brain/body ratio; the idea turned out to be wrong: dolphins use that great brain power to echonavigate and process sound. Since they have no hands, doing the sorts of things we do with our hands using their beaks was rare so they never need to develop the sort of brain structure that fine interaction requires.
Oh, that's a good point; I didn't think about that at all. Being such clever critters has its prices. I wonder what'd happen if we engineered our bodies to be more physically effecient now that we have all the intelligence focused around doing tool and thinking things...
I don't think it's true that brain/body ratio has much to do with actual intelligence though. I've heard it mentioned a lot that there are a lot of animals that don't fit this (although really we just don't know.) As an aside, the number of DNA strings a species has is also unrelated to how complex or intelligent a creature is.
"The same way"?
Even on Earth, mammals have an insanely large range of anatomical elements and secondary sexual characteristics. Look at a few different orders of mammalia.
Take the kangaroo. Like most marsupials, the female roo has three complete sets of anatomical elements in a row. The left and right are used for sex, the middle is only for giving birth, and like all marsupials it doesn't have to stretch to accommodate a large baby. Marsupials have dual uteruses, alternating, so the kangaroo can be perpetually pregnant. The nipples, of course, are inside the female's pouch. Not to be left out, males often have forked anatomical elements to mate with all those female anatiomical elements.
How about a dolphin? The anatomical elements of both genders are tucked away neatly behind slits that can seal out the pressure of deep dives. The females have a pair of nipples hidden behind similar slits. That's the sure way to tell the difference between the genders, counting the slits. Males also enjoy showing off their anatomical elements, which are much more under their concious control than human ones.
Even among the primates, humans aren't anything like the massive gorillas and their surprisingly small anatomical elements, along with breasts that are near flat when not nursing. Chimpanzees, on the other hand, have lower anatomical elements as big as a human fist. Mandrils have rainbow colored anatomical elements.
Cats, from house cats to lions, have cone-shaped male anatomical elements covered with sharp barbs to lock the couple together. Females have rows of tiny nipples.
Male dogs have a different locking mechanism, similar to the inflatable bulb on a Foley catheterer.
Cows have udders, all the nipples on one breast. Taurette, of couse, has three breasts: two human, one bovine. The males have "substantial' anatomical elements.
Rats (how about "rat man") have the largest lower anatomical elements in proportion to their body size of any mammal you're likely to encounter, but one species of lemur has them so large that if he were the size of a human, his anatomical elements would be the size of mellons.
Lots of animals (deer, bears, racoons come immediately to mind) have a bactum (curved or hooked bone) running through their male anatomical elements, which gives the whole thing an interesting shape.
And...
A horse is a horse, of course, of course (sing it with me!)
Mice that eat yoghurt have larger Anatomical Elements (well only certain Anatomical Elements but bits that come under the Anatomical Element category nonetheless)
Squirrels supposedly have those same Anatomical Element bits taking up to 25% of their bodies, though I've never noticed that.
Shorter female Anatomical Elements lead to larger male Anatomical Element Explorer Ingredients for Life (AEEILs. Or sperm.)
Similarly, human males with deeper voices and more muscular bodies tend to have a lower sperm count. The theory is that the testosterone used for producing them goes to making the male more attractive instead (also that it doesn't have to work as hard to win the easter egg hunt when it's more likely to be picked to compete.)
Yes, walking with 2 legs is a huge advantage. There are plenty of intelligent creatures on Earth, and they've had millions of years to evolve into a society...but they haven't. What makes humans unique is that we have an advanced brain...and the hands and arms to make use of that brain. Also, while we have amazing hands, humans are not too specialized in any one area. That is actually a plus for our evolution. Being too specialized means that you become too focused on one thing. For example, high level predators like sharks. Sharks are extremely suited to do what they do, but they succeed so well that they do not need to evolve further. However, humans without their tools are fair game for many predators. They have to be creative to succeed. This unique balance is what helped us start using tools more than any other creature ever has. And the first proto humans broke off in large part because they started standing upright.
As such, I think it is easy to imagine other intelligent species to be bipedal, or at least have free limbs. And I remember this being covered in Trek. Really, it was just their way of addressing in the story why all their aliens looked so human, its cheaper on makeup and special effects that way! Anyway, these are hybrids, so that doesn't matter so much.