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  • XyetztXyetzt Posts: 27,456
    Chohole said:
    MistyMist said:

    can perked coffee be any nomms on an electric stove?

    live on a dead end, no gas stove with fire and such

    We only had an electric stove when I was growing up.   Percolator went on the hot plate just fine.   Of course nowadays you can get plug in ones as well

     

     

    My dad used to use the term percolator wrong as he used to call himself a percolator.

  • TangoAlphaTangoAlpha Posts: 4,587

    Wotcher each. Just finished my second coffee of the morning and starting to dream of lunch. Coffee as far as I'm concerned is hot water from the kettle poured over a spoon of granules. If I'm out, then coffee is poured from a glass jug (or "posh" coffee comes out of a tube attached to a machine with lots of chrome and red lights on)

    Never owned a percolator.

  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 12,252
    edited August 2016
    MistyMist said:

    can perked coffee be any nomms on an electric stove?

    live on a dead end, no gas stove with fire and such

    Coffee would perk and taste the same sitting on a chunk of plutonium approaching critical mass.  And it would probably be the most sterile cup of coffee you ever had but wouldn't do you much good because while pulling it off the "heater" your eyeballs would be frying and then you'd die from radiation poisoning.

    However, I'm sure you could find some coffee snob who would be able to describe any real or imagined subtle taste difference between 'lectric brewed and gas brewed coffee.  Or even plutonium brewed coffee if he could write really fast in the dark.

    "Coffee snob", "wine snob", "audio snob", people with too much money trying to impress their friends. frown

    Post edited by LeatherGryphon on
  • TJohnTJohn Posts: 11,355

  • Jan19Jan19 Posts: 1,109

    Antidote for Depresso. smiley

     

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    edited August 2016
    ps1borg said:

    ...

    kyoto kid said:
    Jan19 said:
    MistyMist said:

    wanna cry. meeting in 30 minutes, i just wanna huddle in the dark and cry.  have you seen geografts in carrara?  never been this close to giving up.

    Misty, why do you use Carrara, if it gives you so much grief?  Studio has become a power app.  I did a geograft in DS.  Not perfect, but I could do it.

     

    ...Carrara can handle large environments/sets much better and you can also create your own environments. it's render engine can produce very realistc resuts in a more reasonable amount of time (compared to Iray CPU mode) without needing an expensive GPU, it has a better animation engine than Daz, you can model directly in the pogramme, It can directly import more file formats, and from my perspective it has a more intuitive shader editor/builder than Daz's Shader Mixer/Builder.

    Carrara is basically a multi purpose programme and thus a bit more complex to learn than Daz which is still pretty much a character posing, morphing, and  rendering one.

    The major headaches in Carrara right now are G3 (no compatibility yet, though as I unserstand there is an update in the works which may probably solve this), and pretty much most new content going to Iray shaders which are more difficult to work with.

     

    +1 and a robust particle system and body dynamics interface ... there would be no harm in rigging something G3 you need using Studio and exporting as if it were a Poser figure, Carrara should handle that no problems ?


    tried that , doesn't work. >,<

    the export to cr2 method  lol

     

    Post edited by Mistara on
  • Stryder87Stryder87 Posts: 899
    kyoto kid said:

    That is so awesome!  I want!

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    what is the life cycle of a sun?

    how does it start?  how come it doesn't need oxygen to burn?

    spark -> expand-> nova-> supernova-> dark little pebble?

    when everything gets sucked into the black hole at the center, does it big bang?!

  • fixmypcmikefixmypcmike Posts: 19,710
    MistyMist said:

    what is the life cycle of a sun?

    how does it start?  how come it doesn't need oxygen to burn?

    spark -> expand-> nova-> supernova-> dark little pebble?

    when everything gets sucked into the black hole at the center, does it big bang?!

    http://www.schoolsobservatory.org.uk/astro/stars/lifecycle

    They don't need oxygen because they aren't burning.

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    Fixmypcmike said:
    MistyMist said:

    what is the life cycle of a sun?

    how does it start?  how come it doesn't need oxygen to burn?

    spark -> expand-> nova-> supernova-> dark little pebble?

    when everything gets sucked into the black hole at the center, does it big bang?!

    http://www.schoolsobservatory.org.uk/astro/stars/lifecycle

    They don't need oxygen because they aren't burning.

     

    not burning?  how's it get so hott?

    i thought animating the beginning of a universe would be epic, but is blowing my mind  lol
    not to mention the shaders

  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 12,252
    edited September 2016

    Back in the 1800's they still thought that the Sun might be like a giant chunk of burning coal.  But burning coal needs oxygen to chemically combine its Carbon atoms with Oxygen atoms to make Carbon Monoxide and/or Carbon Dioxide.  It was a totally stupid idea.  But the best one they could come up with at the time.

    Then in the early 1900's atomic theory revealed the idea of fusion.  Multiple Hydrogen atoms fusing together to make a Helium atom and releasing vast amounts of energy in the process.  No Oxygen needed.  It's not a "burning" process.  It's a "fusion" process.  It's not a chemical reaction, it's an atomic reaction.  A "chemical" reaction  is when atoms hover next to each other attracted and held together by their ability to share orbiting electrons.  An "atomic" reaction is when the contents of the nucleus of multiple atoms either "fuse" together to make a new heavier element or when the nucleus of a single atom "fissions" (splits apart) into two or more different lighter elements.

    Before our Sun was born, other stars in the area had lived their cycle and exploded sending miscellaneous debris (iron, copper, carbon, oxygen, silicon, etc.) into the cloud of Hydrogen that filled space.  Dense knots of the Hydrogen and old debris condensed by gravity and electrostatic charges and formed a big ball that continued to pull in more Hydrogen and debris until it got hot enough to start the fusion reaction about 5 billion years ago.

    The "normal" life cycle of our sun will be about 10 billion years.  So in about 5 billion years it will run out of Hydrogen and go through a phase of swelling into a red giant star as it changes from fusing Hydrogen into Helium, to a phase where it fuses Helium into Carbon and in the process will puff off some the outer shells of its gas and debris and will eventually shrink down to a white hot cinder of carbon that is so hot and so dense that it will continue to cool for many 10s or even 100s of billions of years.  It won't be fusing because all it's Hydrogen and any fuseable materials are either gone or the cinder isn't hot enough to continue fusing.  The cinder will eventually cool to be a giant chunk of incredibly compressed solid carbon.  Basically a diamond the size of a planet.  So if you really really wanted a big diamond for your ring, the sky is full of them just for the taking.  There really are diamonds in the sky!

    Stars many times bigger than our sun burn so furiously that they will have a life cycle much shorter than even the 10 billion years of "normal" life our Sun is going through and will end their lives in massive Supernova explosion violently blasting their outer shells of debris out into space and the remainder will condense into small incredibly dense objects.  Some will turn into Neutron Stars, so dense that the negative electrons are pushed into the nucleus of the atoms and unite witht the positive protons to become neutrons and the result is essentially a giant (can you say humongous) mass of solidly packed neutrons miles across.  Truely massive stars will do their supernova thing after living only a few million years and then the remainder will condense even further to become black holes.

    Nobody really knows what happens to the material that goes down a black hole.  There are a few theories.  But nobody knows.  My suspicion is that what really happens is really simple but totally unimagined yet.  The problem is because of our primitive concepts of space/time/matter/energy  We're like blinded cavemen trying to describe an ATM machine.  It's totally outside our experience.

    But to give some credit to the scientists in the 1800's we now know that those cooling white hot cinders of burned out stars do have planets and since they live for so incredibly long and are so amazingly stable that life could re-develop on any planet cinders that remained after the star had sterilized them during its red giant phase.  However, any planet that does remain would have to be so close to the tiny cool star that its year could be measured in hours. And it wouldn't even have a "day" cycle because like the moon it would always have one side of the planet facing the star. 

    Post edited by LeatherGryphon on
  • ps1borgps1borg Posts: 12,776

    Morning. Day breaking mild and gentle as a soft spoken concierge on the first of Spring, winter seems to be checking out without complaint so far :)

  • ps1borgps1borg Posts: 12,776
    MistyMist said:
    ps1borg said:

    ...

    kyoto kid said:
    Jan19 said:
    MistyMist said:

    wanna cry. meeting in 30 minutes, i just wanna huddle in the dark and cry.  have you seen geografts in carrara?  never been this close to giving up.

    Misty, why do you use Carrara, if it gives you so much grief?  Studio has become a power app.  I did a geograft in DS.  Not perfect, but I could do it.

     

    ...Carrara can handle large environments/sets much better and you can also create your own environments. it's render engine can produce very realistc resuts in a more reasonable amount of time (compared to Iray CPU mode) without needing an expensive GPU, it has a better animation engine than Daz, you can model directly in the pogramme, It can directly import more file formats, and from my perspective it has a more intuitive shader editor/builder than Daz's Shader Mixer/Builder.

    Carrara is basically a multi purpose programme and thus a bit more complex to learn than Daz which is still pretty much a character posing, morphing, and  rendering one.

    The major headaches in Carrara right now are G3 (no compatibility yet, though as I unserstand there is an update in the works which may probably solve this), and pretty much most new content going to Iray shaders which are more difficult to work with.

     

    +1 and a robust particle system and body dynamics interface ... there would be no harm in rigging something G3 you need using Studio and exporting as if it were a Poser figure, Carrara should handle that no problems ?


    tried that , doesn't work. >,<

    the export to cr2 method  lol

     

    Not quite what I meant, the figure should export as a wavefront object that you can import and re-rig and then export as a cr2 maybe ?

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 42,159
    edited August 2016
    Tjohn said:

    ...yep. what I'm feeling right now as out of cash until Friday so no coffee until then.

    (ugh hate it when FF shifts the screen up or down without any input...ended up quoting the post below TJ's by accident).

    Post edited by kyoto kid on
  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 42,159
    MistyMist said:

    what is the life cycle of a sun?

    how does it start?  how come it doesn't need oxygen to burn?

    spark -> expand-> nova-> supernova-> dark little pebble?

    when everything gets sucked into the black hole at the center, does it big bang?!

    ..hard to explain in short order.  Actually learned about it in elementary school.

    http://science.nasa.gov/astrophysics/focus-areas/how-do-stars-form-and-evolve/

  • PetercatPetercat Posts: 2,322
    kyoto kid said:
    Tjohn said:

    ...yep. what I'm feeling right now as out of cash until Friday so no coffee until then.

    (ugh hate it when FF shifts the screen up or down without any input...ended up quoting the post below TJ's by accident).

    This is why I have a stash. Behind my couch I have an unopened can of coffee, ten pounds of sugar, two of the largest cans of powdered creamer, two cans of cocoa mix (for my "special" coffee) and ten gallons of distilled water. Everything I need to survive the Apocolypse!

    And there's a big jar of instant on my countertop, for when I just can't wait...

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    Petercat said:
    kyoto kid said:
    Tjohn said:

    ...yep. what I'm feeling right now as out of cash until Friday so no coffee until then.

    (ugh hate it when FF shifts the screen up or down without any input...ended up quoting the post below TJ's by accident).

    This is why I have a stash. Behind my couch I have an unopened can of coffee, ten pounds of sugar, two of the largest cans of powdered creamer, two cans of cocoa mix (for my "special" coffee) and ten gallons of distilled water. Everything I need to survive the Apocolypse!

    And there's a big jar of instant on my countertop, for when I just can't wait...

     

    instant , still hafta to wait for the kettle to boil

    am i the only one not has a kcup brewer?  i do want one, sales keep taking my spare money  lol

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    ps1borg said:
    MistyMist said:
    ps1borg said:

    ...

    kyoto kid said:
    Jan19 said:
    MistyMist said:

    wanna cry. meeting in 30 minutes, i just wanna huddle in the dark and cry.  have you seen geografts in carrara?  never been this close to giving up.

    Misty, why do you use Carrara, if it gives you so much grief?  Studio has become a power app.  I did a geograft in DS.  Not perfect, but I could do it.

     

    ...Carrara can handle large environments/sets much better and you can also create your own environments. it's render engine can produce very realistc resuts in a more reasonable amount of time (compared to Iray CPU mode) without needing an expensive GPU, it has a better animation engine than Daz, you can model directly in the pogramme, It can directly import more file formats, and from my perspective it has a more intuitive shader editor/builder than Daz's Shader Mixer/Builder.

    Carrara is basically a multi purpose programme and thus a bit more complex to learn than Daz which is still pretty much a character posing, morphing, and  rendering one.

    The major headaches in Carrara right now are G3 (no compatibility yet, though as I unserstand there is an update in the works which may probably solve this), and pretty much most new content going to Iray shaders which are more difficult to work with.

     

    +1 and a robust particle system and body dynamics interface ... there would be no harm in rigging something G3 you need using Studio and exporting as if it were a Poser figure, Carrara should handle that no problems ?


    tried that , doesn't work. >,<

    the export to cr2 method  lol

     

    Not quite what I meant, the figure should export as a wavefront object that you can import and re-rig and then export as a cr2 maybe ?

     

    is mucho face bones.  tee hee, this much

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    kyoto kid said:
    Tjohn said:

    ...yep. what I'm feeling right now as out of cash until Friday so no coffee until then.

    (ugh hate it when FF shifts the screen up or down without any input...ended up quoting the post below TJ's by accident).

     

    BEER?

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    why do i get all jazzed thinkin about skimpy vivki outfits on gianni6?  is it a vitamin deficiency thing?

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    LeatherGryphon said:

    Back in the 1800's they still thought that the Sun might be like a giant chunk of burning coal.  But burning coal needs oxygen to chemically combine its Carbon atoms with Oxygen atoms to make Carbon Monoxide and/or Carbon Dioxide.  It was a totally stupid idea.  But the best one they could come up with at the time.

    Then in the early 1900's atomic theory revealed the idea of fusion.  Multiple Hydrogen atoms fusing together to make a Helium atom and releasing vast amounts of energy in the process.  No Oxygen needed.  It's not a "burning" process.  It's a "fusion" process.  It's not a chemical reaction, it's an atomic reaction.  A "chemical" reaction  is when atoms hover next to each other attracted by their orbiting electrons.  An "atomic" reaction is when the contents of the nucleus of the atom either "fuse" together to make a new heavier element or when the nucleus "fissions" (splits apart) into two or more different lighter elements.

    Before our Sun was born, other stars in the area had lived their cycle and exploded sending debris into the cloud of Hydrogen that filled space.  Dense knots of the Hydrogen and debris condensed by gravity and electrostatic charges and formed a big ball that continued to pull in more Hydrogen and debris until it got hot enough to start the fusion reaction about 5 billion years ago.

    The "normal" life cycle of our sun will be about 10 billion years.  So in about 5 billion years it will run out of Hydrogen and go through a phase of swelling into a red giant star as it changes from fusing Hydrogen into Helium, to a phase where it fuses Helium into Carbon and in the process will puff off some the outer shells of its gas and debris and will eventually shrink down to a white hot cinder of carbon that is so hot and so dense that it will continue to cool for many 10s or even 100s of billions of years.  It won't be fusing because all it's Hydrogen and any fuseable materials are either gone or the cinder isn't hot enough to continue fusing.  The cinder will eventually cool to be a giant chunk of incredibly compressed solid carbon.  Basically a diamond the size of a planet.  So if you really really wanted a big diamond for your ring, the sky is full of them just for the taking.  There really are diamonds in the sky!

    Stars many times bigger than our sun burn so furiously that they will have a life cycle much shorter than even the 10 billion years of "normal" life our Sun is going through and will end their lives in massive Supernova explosion violently blasting their outer shells of debris out into space and the remainder will condense into small incredibly dense objects.  Some will turn into Neutron Stars, essentially a giant (can you say humongous) single neutron miles across.  Truely massive stars will do their supernova thing after living only a few million years and then the remainder will condense so much that they turn into black holes.

    Nobody really knows what happens to the material that goes down a black hole.  There are a few theories.  But nobody knows.  My suspicion is that what really happens is really simple but totally unimagined yet.  The problem is because of our primitive concepts of space/time/matter/energy  We're like blinded cavemen trying to describe an ATM machine.  It's totally outside our experience.

    But to give some credit to the scientists in the 1800's we now know that those cooling white hot cinders of burned out stars do have planets and since they live for so incredibly long and are so amazingly stable that life could re-develop on any planet cinders that remained after the star had sterilized them during its red giant phase.  However, any planet that does remain would have to be so close to the tiny cool star that its year could be measured in hours. And it wouldn't even have a "day" cycle because like the moon it would always have one side of the planet facing the star. 

     

    thanks  today first time learning about red giants.

    and thanks for the paragraph breaks  laugh

  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 12,252
    MistyMist said:
    LeatherGryphon said:

    Back in the 1800's they still thought that the Sun might be like a giant chunk of burning coal.  But burning coal needs oxygen to chemically combine its Carbon atoms with Oxygen atoms to make Carbon Monoxide and/or Carbon Dioxide.  It was a totally stupid idea.  But the best one they could come up with at the time.

    Then in the early 1900's atomic theory revealed the idea of fusion.  Multiple Hydrogen atoms fusing together to make a Helium atom and releasing vast amounts of energy in the process.  No Oxygen needed.  It's not a "burning" process.  It's a "fusion" process.  It's not a chemical reaction, it's an atomic reaction.  A "chemical" reaction  is when atoms hover next to each other attracted by their orbiting electrons.  An "atomic" reaction is when the contents of the nucleus of the atom either "fuse" together to make a new heavier element or when the nucleus "fissions" (splits apart) into two or more different lighter elements.

    Before our Sun was born, other stars in the area had lived their cycle and exploded sending debris into the cloud of Hydrogen that filled space.  Dense knots of the Hydrogen and debris condensed by gravity and electrostatic charges and formed a big ball that continued to pull in more Hydrogen and debris until it got hot enough to start the fusion reaction about 5 billion years ago.

    The "normal" life cycle of our sun will be about 10 billion years.  So in about 5 billion years it will run out of Hydrogen and go through a phase of swelling into a red giant star as it changes from fusing Hydrogen into Helium, to a phase where it fuses Helium into Carbon and in the process will puff off some the outer shells of its gas and debris and will eventually shrink down to a white hot cinder of carbon that is so hot and so dense that it will continue to cool for many 10s or even 100s of billions of years.  It won't be fusing because all it's Hydrogen and any fuseable materials are either gone or the cinder isn't hot enough to continue fusing.  The cinder will eventually cool to be a giant chunk of incredibly compressed solid carbon.  Basically a diamond the size of a planet.  So if you really really wanted a big diamond for your ring, the sky is full of them just for the taking.  There really are diamonds in the sky!

    Stars many times bigger than our sun burn so furiously that they will have a life cycle much shorter than even the 10 billion years of "normal" life our Sun is going through and will end their lives in massive Supernova explosion violently blasting their outer shells of debris out into space and the remainder will condense into small incredibly dense objects.  Some will turn into Neutron Stars, essentially a giant (can you say humongous) single neutron miles across.  Truely massive stars will do their supernova thing after living only a few million years and then the remainder will condense so much that they turn into black holes.

    Nobody really knows what happens to the material that goes down a black hole.  There are a few theories.  But nobody knows.  My suspicion is that what really happens is really simple but totally unimagined yet.  The problem is because of our primitive concepts of space/time/matter/energy  We're like blinded cavemen trying to describe an ATM machine.  It's totally outside our experience.

    But to give some credit to the scientists in the 1800's we now know that those cooling white hot cinders of burned out stars do have planets and since they live for so incredibly long and are so amazingly stable that life could re-develop on any planet cinders that remained after the star had sterilized them during its red giant phase.  However, any planet that does remain would have to be so close to the tiny cool star that its year could be measured in hours. And it wouldn't even have a "day" cycle because like the moon it would always have one side of the planet facing the star. 

     

    thanks  today first time learning about red giants.

    and thanks for the paragraph breaks  laugh

    Paragraphs get tired easily, so I give them breaks.

     

  • PetercatPetercat Posts: 2,322
    kyoto kid said:
    Tjohn said:

    ...yep. what I'm feeling right now as out of cash until Friday so no coffee until then.

    (ugh hate it when FF shifts the screen up or down without any input...ended up quoting the post below TJ's by accident).

    This is why I have a stash. Behind my couch I have an unopened can of coffee, ten pounds of sugar, two of the largest cans of powdered creamer, two cans of cocoa mix (for my "special" coffee) and ten gallons of distilled water. Everything I need to survive the Apocolypse!

    And there's a big jar of instant on my countertop, for when I just can't wait...

    MistyMist said:
    Petercat said:
    kyoto kid said:
    Tjohn said:

    ...yep. what I'm feeling right now as out of cash until Friday so no coffee until then.

    (ugh hate it when FF shifts the screen up or down without any input...ended up quoting the post below TJ's by accident).

    This is why I have a stash. Behind my couch I have an unopened can of coffee, ten pounds of sugar, two of the largest cans of powdered creamer, two cans of cocoa mix (for my "special" coffee) and ten gallons of distilled water. Everything I need to survive the Apocolypse!

    And there's a big jar of instant on my countertop, for when I just can't wait...

     

    instant , still hafta to wait for the kettle to boil

    am i the only one not has a kcup brewer?  i do want one, sales keep taking my spare money  lol

    That's what microwaves are for. 1 minute to liftoff. Don't want a kcup brewer. Too inefficient.

  • ps1borgps1borg Posts: 12,776
    edited September 2016
    LeatherGryphon said:
    MistyMist said:
    LeatherGryphon said:

    Back in the 1800's they still thought that the Sun might be like a giant chunk of burning coal.  But burning coal needs oxygen to chemically combine its Carbon atoms with Oxygen atoms to make Carbon Monoxide and/or Carbon Dioxide.  It was a totally stupid idea.  But the best one they could come up with at the time.

    Then in the early 1900's atomic theory revealed the idea of fusion.  Multiple Hydrogen atoms fusing together to make a Helium atom and releasing vast amounts of energy in the process.  No Oxygen needed.  It's not a "burning" process.  It's a "fusion" process.  It's not a chemical reaction, it's an atomic reaction.  A "chemical" reaction  is when atoms hover next to each other attracted by their orbiting electrons.  An "atomic" reaction is when the contents of the nucleus of the atom either "fuse" together to make a new heavier element or when the nucleus "fissions" (splits apart) into two or more different lighter elements.

    Before our Sun was born, other stars in the area had lived their cycle and exploded sending debris into the cloud of Hydrogen that filled space.  Dense knots of the Hydrogen and debris condensed by gravity and electrostatic charges and formed a big ball that continued to pull in more Hydrogen and debris until it got hot enough to start the fusion reaction about 5 billion years ago.

    The "normal" life cycle of our sun will be about 10 billion years.  So in about 5 billion years it will run out of Hydrogen and go through a phase of swelling into a red giant star as it changes from fusing Hydrogen into Helium, to a phase where it fuses Helium into Carbon and in the process will puff off some the outer shells of its gas and debris and will eventually shrink down to a white hot cinder of carbon that is so hot and so dense that it will continue to cool for many 10s or even 100s of billions of years.  It won't be fusing because all it's Hydrogen and any fuseable materials are either gone or the cinder isn't hot enough to continue fusing.  The cinder will eventually cool to be a giant chunk of incredibly compressed solid carbon.  Basically a diamond the size of a planet.  So if you really really wanted a big diamond for your ring, the sky is full of them just for the taking.  There really are diamonds in the sky!

    Stars many times bigger than our sun burn so furiously that they will have a life cycle much shorter than even the 10 billion years of "normal" life our Sun is going through and will end their lives in massive Supernova explosion violently blasting their outer shells of debris out into space and the remainder will condense into small incredibly dense objects.  Some will turn into Neutron Stars, essentially a giant (can you say humongous) single neutron miles across.  Truely massive stars will do their supernova thing after living only a few million years and then the remainder will condense so much that they turn into black holes.

    Nobody really knows what happens to the material that goes down a black hole.  There are a few theories.  But nobody knows.  My suspicion is that what really happens is really simple but totally unimagined yet.  The problem is because of our primitive concepts of space/time/matter/energy  We're like blinded cavemen trying to describe an ATM machine.  It's totally outside our experience.

    But to give some credit to the scientists in the 1800's we now know that those cooling white hot cinders of burned out stars do have planets and since they live for so incredibly long and are so amazingly stable that life could re-develop on any planet cinders that remained after the star had sterilized them during its red giant phase.  However, any planet that does remain would have to be so close to the tiny cool star that its year could be measured in hours. And it wouldn't even have a "day" cycle because like the moon it would always have one side of the planet facing the star. 

     

    thanks  today first time learning about red giants.

    and thanks for the paragraph breaks  laugh

    Paragraphs get tired easily, so I give them breaks.

     

     

    A break? Lamingtons all round :)

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  • Jan19Jan19 Posts: 1,109
    MistyMist said:

    why do i get all jazzed thinkin about skimpy vivki outfits on gianni6?  is it a vitamin deficiency thing?

    ROFL.  That is hilarious.  Dude Looks Like a Lady. laugh 

    Lord, do let me get off the Aerosmith kick.  No, no, I don't want to.

     

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    Jan19 said:
    MistyMist said:

    why do i get all jazzed thinkin about skimpy vivki outfits on gianni6?  is it a vitamin deficiency thing?

    ROFL.  That is hilarious.  Dude Looks Like a Lady. laugh 

    Lord, do let me get off the Aerosmith kick.  No, no, I don't want to.

     

     

    do it, lol  y'know yoo wanna

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    ps1borg said:
    LeatherGryphon said:
    MistyMist said:
    LeatherGryphon said:

    Back in the 1800's they still thought that the Sun might be like a giant chunk of burning coal.  But burning coal needs oxygen to chemically combine its Carbon atoms with Oxygen atoms to make Carbon Monoxide and/or Carbon Dioxide.  It was a totally stupid idea.  But the best one they could come up with at the time.

    Then in the early 1900's atomic theory revealed the idea of fusion.  Multiple Hydrogen atoms fusing together to make a Helium atom and releasing vast amounts of energy in the process.  No Oxygen needed.  It's not a "burning" process.  It's a "fusion" process.  It's not a chemical reaction, it's an atomic reaction.  A "chemical" reaction  is when atoms hover next to each other attracted by their orbiting electrons.  An "atomic" reaction is when the contents of the nucleus of the atom either "fuse" together to make a new heavier element or when the nucleus "fissions" (splits apart) into two or more different lighter elements.

    Before our Sun was born, other stars in the area had lived their cycle and exploded sending debris into the cloud of Hydrogen that filled space.  Dense knots of the Hydrogen and debris condensed by gravity and electrostatic charges and formed a big ball that continued to pull in more Hydrogen and debris until it got hot enough to start the fusion reaction about 5 billion years ago.

    The "normal" life cycle of our sun will be about 10 billion years.  So in about 5 billion years it will run out of Hydrogen and go through a phase of swelling into a red giant star as it changes from fusing Hydrogen into Helium, to a phase where it fuses Helium into Carbon and in the process will puff off some the outer shells of its gas and debris and will eventually shrink down to a white hot cinder of carbon that is so hot and so dense that it will continue to cool for many 10s or even 100s of billions of years.  It won't be fusing because all it's Hydrogen and any fuseable materials are either gone or the cinder isn't hot enough to continue fusing.  The cinder will eventually cool to be a giant chunk of incredibly compressed solid carbon.  Basically a diamond the size of a planet.  So if you really really wanted a big diamond for your ring, the sky is full of them just for the taking.  There really are diamonds in the sky!

    Stars many times bigger than our sun burn so furiously that they will have a life cycle much shorter than even the 10 billion years of "normal" life our Sun is going through and will end their lives in massive Supernova explosion violently blasting their outer shells of debris out into space and the remainder will condense into small incredibly dense objects.  Some will turn into Neutron Stars, essentially a giant (can you say humongous) single neutron miles across.  Truely massive stars will do their supernova thing after living only a few million years and then the remainder will condense so much that they turn into black holes.

    Nobody really knows what happens to the material that goes down a black hole.  There are a few theories.  But nobody knows.  My suspicion is that what really happens is really simple but totally unimagined yet.  The problem is because of our primitive concepts of space/time/matter/energy  We're like blinded cavemen trying to describe an ATM machine.  It's totally outside our experience.

    But to give some credit to the scientists in the 1800's we now know that those cooling white hot cinders of burned out stars do have planets and since they live for so incredibly long and are so amazingly stable that life could re-develop on any planet cinders that remained after the star had sterilized them during its red giant phase.  However, any planet that does remain would have to be so close to the tiny cool star that its year could be measured in hours. And it wouldn't even have a "day" cycle because like the moon it would always have one side of the planet facing the star. 

     

    thanks  today first time learning about red giants.

    and thanks for the paragraph breaks  laugh

    Paragraphs get tired easily, so I give them breaks.

     

     

    A break? Lamingtons all round :)

     

    CAKE!!

  • Jan19Jan19 Posts: 1,109
    edited September 2016
    MistyMist said:
    Jan19 said:
    MistyMist said:

    why do i get all jazzed thinkin about skimpy vivki outfits on gianni6?  is it a vitamin deficiency thing?

    ROFL.  That is hilarious.  Dude Looks Like a Lady. laugh 

    Lord, do let me get off the Aerosmith kick.  No, no, I don't want to.

     

     

    do it, lol  y'know yoo wanna

    I ought to, I guess.  laugh​  All right, no more dude posts.

    That song still cracks me up though.  What's not cracked already, that is.

    It is raining cats and dogs here.  Whew.

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  • Jan19Jan19 Posts: 1,109
    edited September 2016
    MistyMist said:

    why do i get all jazzed thinkin about skimpy vivki outfits on gianni6?

    Do it, do it, you know you want to. :-)  Just do it right.

    Warning:  seriously hot guy alert.  Not a jock type, but he will make somebody hunt the Sunday go to meetin' fan.

    OK, I'm done.

     

     

     

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  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 42,159
    Petercat said:
    kyoto kid said:
    Tjohn said:

    ...yep. what I'm feeling right now as out of cash until Friday so no coffee until then.

    (ugh hate it when FF shifts the screen up or down without any input...ended up quoting the post below TJ's by accident).

    This is why I have a stash. Behind my couch I have an unopened can of coffee, ten pounds of sugar, two of the largest cans of powdered creamer, two cans of cocoa mix (for my "special" coffee) and ten gallons of distilled water. Everything I need to survive the Apocolypse!

    And there's a big jar of instant on my countertop, for when I just can't wait...

    ...where I live they don't like the smell of coffee so I have to go out for it.

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