HAPPY BIRTHDAY HEXAGON! Maybe you'll get fixed for your gift!

ScavengerScavenger Posts: 2,674

You know anything along the lines of making the Hex -> Daz bridge work on the Mac ti a ful fledged update?

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  • icprncssicprncss Posts: 3,694

    Seen any flying pigs?

  • StratDragonStratDragon Posts: 3,278

    I would settle for Hex working on the Mac period. They can take care of the bridge issue once the sort out the bother of getting it to run on a 64 bit version of OS X.

  • DiomedeDiomede Posts: 15,410

    I think of the Hex bridge as an integral part of Studio, along with the Bryce bridge.  i would be switching from Carrara to Studio if I thought these functions were being supported while C8.5 stagnates.

     

    Instead, the Studio workflow is DEGRADING.  Adding Iray does not make up for losing compatible modeling and environment functions.  Why switch from C8.5 to Studio if Studio is losing modeling and environment functionality?

     

    Blender, here I come, and at that point the only Daz product worth even considering is the base human mesh - certainly not Studio itself.  And there are substitutes for the Daz humans, including makehuman.

     

     

  • BryseyBrysey Posts: 73
    edited May 2016

    Like no doubt many others I picked up Hexagon when it became part of the DAZ family early on at a good price. I would love to see it fully operational on the Mac as 64bit, seems a bit odd to be promoting it when it's not fully useable on the Mac in recent OS versions. Is it on the roadmap for an update or like Bryce  it's living in limbo land?

    Post edited by Brysey on
  • ghastlycomicghastlycomic Posts: 2,531

    My wish is if Daz has no intentions of ever updating Hexagon (which it seems they don't) then they should make it open source so hopefully the community will be able to upgrade and support it.

  • IvyIvy Posts: 7,165

    I remeber when they gave HEXAGON free in 2012.  I was Never was much good at using it for anything other than use it to modifying some product Meshes to accept new Mats .

    I think more than anything they are selling it so cheap it so dreamlite has away to sell his tut's  other wise I'm finding blender more and more easier to use as I use it more

  • AnotherUserNameAnotherUserName Posts: 2,727

    Hexagon is a great tool for "CRASH"... Create and save your 3D models for "CRASH"...  Dont press that button "CRASH"... But, CRASH"... Wait, "CRASH"... "CRASH"...

  • SorelSorel Posts: 1,417
    There is a new version of hexagon being made, it is in a closed beta, if y'all peek at the hex forums every now and then.
  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,100

    At $3, Hexagon was finally cheap enough for me to go 'oh, what the heck'

     

  • algovincianalgovincian Posts: 2,670
    Sorel said:
    There is a new version of hexagon being made, it is in a closed beta, if y'all peek at the hex forums every now and then.

    Really? lol

    - Greg

  • ANGELREAPER1972ANGELREAPER1972 Posts: 4,696

    I thought hexagon was free well I got it free long time ago though but thought was free still. Been thinking for awhile now about Daz 5 and was thinking there may be two versions one free being just Daz Studio and a pay for professional version that may have built into it hexagon, bryce and carrara seeing how there's been no new versions or updates for these they could combine these with studio and updated as a way to compete with other programs like zbrush, blender, extra as an all in one solution

  • N-RArtsN-RArts Posts: 1,606

    Oh yeah, that's really fair... $11-ish  yesterday $3 today...

     

    sad

  • AtiAti Posts: 9,193
    edited May 2016

    Oh yeah, that's really fair... $11-ish  yesterday $3 today...

     

    sad

    Did you buy it at that price yesterday? If so, you can contact customer support, explain the situation, show them today's price, and because of the 30-day guarantee, they will probably credit you the difference (unless there were restrictions in the sale you bought it in).

    Post edited by Ati on
  • grinch2901grinch2901 Posts: 1,247

    Personally I love Hexagon. Yes it has some stability problems (okay, a lot).  There are some tweaks you can do in the settings to make them less frequent. Still, save often or you'll regret it. But the workflow and tools are just great, love them.  The universal manipulator along ought to be stolen by every 3D tool made, it's phenomenally useful once you get used to using it.  I wish they would fix it, I hope they do.

  • mtl1mtl1 Posts: 1,508

    I've personally never had Hexagon crash on me. The main issue I have is that the viewport is too laggy!

  • N-RArtsN-RArts Posts: 1,606
    Ati said:

    Oh yeah, that's really fair... $11-ish  yesterday $3 today...

     

    sad

    Did you buy it at thet price yesterday? If so, you can contact customer support, explain the situation, show them today's price, and because of the 30-day guarantee, they will probably credit you the difference (unless there were restrictions in the sale you bought it in).

    I did. 

    I'll contact them. I'm sure there's no harm in trying.

    Thanks^^ 

  • namffuaknamffuak Posts: 4,473

    Just one question - which birthday are we celebrating? Five years since last update? Or is it seven?

  • KhoryKhory Posts: 3,854

    At $3, Hexagon was finally cheap enough for me to go 'oh, what the heck'

     

    I think I paid $1.99 for it on intro as part of the plat sale when it came out. To say that I got my moneys worth is a massive understatement. Hex still retains its hold on quite a few PA's actually. You would be surprised how much of what you see in the store is done at least partly in Hex.

  • StratDragonStratDragon Posts: 3,278

    Hexagon is a great tool for "CRASH"... Create and save your 3D models for "CRASH"...  Dont press that button "CRASH"... But, CRASH"... Wait, "CRASH"... "CRASH"...

    you're thinking of Crashagon...

    ...no wait, you're right Hexagon does that.

  • KnittingmommyKnittingmommy Posts: 8,191
    edited May 2016

    I'm never really sure what I'm doing in Hexagon most of the time as I still have a lot to learn, but, if memory serves, I have only had it crash on me once or twice in all the time since I started using is it last year.

    Post edited by Knittingmommy on
  • namffuaknamffuak Posts: 4,473
    Sorel said:
    There is a new version of hexagon being made, it is in a closed beta, if y'all peek at the hex forums every now and then.

    IIRC, from posts on one of th old forum versions, "new version" is correct - as in pretty much a complete rewrite. I'm all in favor of it, if DAZ can pull it off.

  • KhoryKhory Posts: 3,854
    namffuak said:
    Sorel said:
    There is a new version of hexagon being made, it is in a closed beta, if y'all peek at the hex forums every now and then.

    IIRC, from posts on one of th old forum versions, "new version" is correct - as in pretty much a complete rewrite. I'm all in favor of it, if DAZ can pull it off.

    Dear god I hope not. It needs a few fixes but it needs to stay the same program or there will be tears in the PA lounge for days.

  • AnotherUserNameAnotherUserName Posts: 2,727

    Hexagon is a great tool for "CRASH"... Create and save your 3D models for "CRASH"...  Dont press that button "CRASH"... But, CRASH"... Wait, "CRASH"... "CRASH"...

    you're thinking of Crashagon...

    ...no wait, you're right Hexagon does that.

    LO... CRASH... LO... CRASH... LO... CRASH... L...O...L....CRASH.

  • namffuaknamffuak Posts: 4,473
    Khory said:
    namffuak said:
    Sorel said:
    There is a new version of hexagon being made, it is in a closed beta, if y'all peek at the hex forums every now and then.

    IIRC, from posts on one of th old forum versions, "new version" is correct - as in pretty much a complete rewrite. I'm all in favor of it, if DAZ can pull it off.

    Dear god I hope not. It needs a few fixes but it needs to stay the same program or there will be tears in the PA lounge for days.

    This was from something like two forum software versions ago, and I'm getting old :-) but what I remember is that Hexagon used a funky interpreted language for the UI to get good funtionality on the systems of the day - and that it was convoluted, opaque, and very difficult to extend. So I would imagine that the UI is being redone pretty much from scratch. I would also imagine that the time it is taking to get this out is because DAZ developers are doing everything they can to NOT change what the UI looks like while also adding in 64-bit support and high-resolution monitor support.

    Not an easy task - but in all honesty, a task better done by a small dedicated group and not a large staff.

  • ChuckdozerChuckdozer Posts: 453
    Sorel said:
    There is a new version of hexagon being made, it is in a closed beta, if y'all peek at the hex forums every now and then.

    You saved me the trouble. wink  It is, indeed, getting an update. As to when we'll see it, who knows. Will it be a full upgrade to Hexagon 3? No... but it is a start, and it does show that development of Hexagon is not dead after all. 

  • ChuckdozerChuckdozer Posts: 453

    Hexagon is a great tool for "CRASH"... Create and save your 3D models for "CRASH"...  Dont press that button "CRASH"... But, CRASH"... Wait, "CRASH"... "CRASH"...

    ... and this one too... devil

  • fixmypcmikefixmypcmike Posts: 19,710
    namffuak said:
    Khory said:
    namffuak said:
    Sorel said:
    There is a new version of hexagon being made, it is in a closed beta, if y'all peek at the hex forums every now and then.

    IIRC, from posts on one of th old forum versions, "new version" is correct - as in pretty much a complete rewrite. I'm all in favor of it, if DAZ can pull it off.

    Dear god I hope not. It needs a few fixes but it needs to stay the same program or there will be tears in the PA lounge for days.

    This was from something like two forum software versions ago, and I'm getting old :-) but what I remember is that Hexagon used a funky interpreted language for the UI to get good funtionality on the systems of the day - and that it was convoluted, opaque, and very difficult to extend. So I would imagine that the UI is being redone pretty much from scratch. I would also imagine that the time it is taking to get this out is because DAZ developers are doing everything they can to NOT change what the UI looks like while also adding in 64-bit support and high-resolution monitor support.

    Not an easy task - but in all honesty, a task better done by a small dedicated group and not a large staff.

    I think you're thinking of Bryce on MacOSX.

  • namffuaknamffuak Posts: 4,473
    namffuak said:
    Khory said:
    namffuak said:
    Sorel said:
    There is a new version of hexagon being made, it is in a closed beta, if y'all peek at the hex forums every now and then.

    IIRC, from posts on one of th old forum versions, "new version" is correct - as in pretty much a complete rewrite. I'm all in favor of it, if DAZ can pull it off.

    Dear god I hope not. It needs a few fixes but it needs to stay the same program or there will be tears in the PA lounge for days.

    This was from something like two forum software versions ago, and I'm getting old :-) but what I remember is that Hexagon used a funky interpreted language for the UI to get good funtionality on the systems of the day - and that it was convoluted, opaque, and very difficult to extend. So I would imagine that the UI is being redone pretty much from scratch. I would also imagine that the time it is taking to get this out is because DAZ developers are doing everything they can to NOT change what the UI looks like while also adding in 64-bit support and high-resolution monitor support.

    Not an easy task - but in all honesty, a task better done by a small dedicated group and not a large staff.

    I think you're thinking of Bryce on MacOSX.

    Might be :-)  Like I said, two forum software changes ago . . .But given the early adopters now complaining about Studio not properly supporting high-resolution screens I'd expect enough of a UI upgrade to support scaleable fonts and that can be non-trivial.

  • CypherFOXCypherFOX Posts: 3,401

    Greetings,

    I don't do anything particularly complicated with Hexagon, but it doesn't crash for me on 64 bit Mac OS X; I pretty much just use send-to via bridge, smooth, and send-back via bridge.

    --  Morgan

     

  • DustRiderDustRider Posts: 2,904

    Oh yeah, that's really fair... $11-ish  yesterday $3 today...

     

    sad

    I paid full price for Hex 1 when Eovia created it .... close to $400 iirc. A few years later Daz gave it away for free That kind of stung, but then I did have it to use for a while before it was devalued. Even at the price you paid, I feel your pain, but at least you should be able to get some store credit to cover the difference. Anymore I have total confidence that almost any purchase made here will someday be a lot cheaper or free. So I just try to use my purchases right away, that way I feel like I just paid to use and enjoy it "early".

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