Confused about G8 & G8.1

Drogo Nazhur

When using a G8.1 character, G8 poses and expressions appear in smart content but selecting them does nothing. Only poses and expressions for G8.1 will work. Why do they appear in smart content if they don't work? How can I weed them out so I don't have to manually go hunting for G8.1 stuff?

Tomhip

You can enable them but it has to be manual action to delete some files.

They put dummy expessions for some historical reason to prevent them from working but  I dont know if it even is valid anymore.

 

https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/477386/how-to-get-genesis-8-expressions-working-on-genesis-8-1

Matt_Castle

G8.0 poses should absolutely work on G8.1; there is no difference between the skeletons on the two figures. (G8.1 poses might not work on G8.0, however, as if they're flagged as Hierarchical Poses, DS will not think they're valid for G8.0)

Using G8.0 expressions on G8.1 does need you to remove the dummy files, but they will then work mostly fine. The "mostly" part is becase G8.1 character morphs will not have correctives for the G8.0 controls, and I suspect this is the reason that they were officially disabled with the dummy files - to stop vendors needing to support both sets of expression controls on G8.1. (That said, a lot of characters just don't bother with expression correctives at all).

Richard Haseltine

Expression poses using the pose cotnrols require that, if they are made to apply directly to the bones in the face then they should work regardless.

Bejaymac

Basically anything that needs access to G8's DAZ Own pose controls and expressions wont work on G8.1 "out of the box".

The "DO" Expressions are the main headache as G8's are head morphs with corrective morphs supplied with characters, while G8.1 uses facial rigging with small partial HD morphs for the fine detail.

There are some creators that did facial rigging expressions for G8, those will work even better on G8.1 thanks to the partial HD morphs that G8 lacks.