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Rigging/Regions

evilded777evilded777 Posts: 2,495
edited May 4 in Daz Studio Discussion

I've been rigging other people's shoe models for a while now and I've never seen anything like this before, but I am starting to see it more and more. Why are the regions such a mess and it does it matter?

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  • evilded777evilded777 Posts: 2,495
    edited May 4

    Also, what's this about? Stray vertices? I'm not a modeller, per se, but I have a little experience in modeling apps.

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  • felisfelis Posts: 6,251

    Regarding stray verteces. Does these verteces have another weight than the surroundings.

  • evilded777evilded777 Posts: 2,495

    felis said:

    Regarding stray verteces. Does these verteces have another weight than the surroundings.

    I don't know enough about it to give this question a proper answer.

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 109,961

    evilded777 said:

    felis said:

    Regarding stray verteces. Does these verteces have another weight than the surroundings.

    I don't know enough about it to give this question a proper answer.

    Select the vertex and those around it (click or marquee the vertex, then hist cmd/ctrl +) then switch to the Node Weightmap brush and the bottom half of the Tool Settings pane should have a details list (going from memory, it may well be a tab) in which you will see the weight values.

    The regiions won'thurt rigging or the like, they are used for selection with the Region Selection tool (like regular face groups  with any node selection or posing tool).

  • MadaMada Posts: 2,059
    edited May 4

    evilded777 said:

    Also, what's this about? Stray vertices? I'm not a modeller, per se, but I have a little experience in modeling apps.

    Its caused by 2 loops that's too close to each other, or the angle between the 2 lines are too steep. As soon as you turn smoothing on the spikes will pop up - getting worse the higher your smoothing iterations are.

    If you take it into a modeler and smooth that area slightly, or adjust the loop to have a less extreme distance/angle it will go away. 

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  • evilded777evilded777 Posts: 2,495
    edited May 5

    Mada said:

    evilded777 said:

    Also, what's this about? Stray vertices? I'm not a modeller, per se, but I have a little experience in modeling apps.

    Its caused by 2 loops that's too close to each other, or the angle between the 2 lines are too steep. As soon as you turn smoothing on the spikes will pop up - getting worse the higher your smoothing iterations are.

    If you take it into a modeler and smooth that area slightly, or adjust the loop to have a less extreme distance/angle it will go away. 

    Thanks, Mada -- love your work BTW. The item is not smoothed, however. This happens when the model is moved. The spike on the heel literally appears to be a vertex hidden inside the rest of the mesh that is attached to a polygon but is not part of the face. I have not succesfully gotten a look at the what is happening with the other part. I was able to delete that vertex once, but then messed something up and wasn't able to work with the result.

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  • BejaymacBejaymac Posts: 1,977
    edited May 5

    Reguarding the Regions, what tools in DS did you use to rig the item ?

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  • evilded777evilded777 Posts: 2,495
    edited May 5

    These also appear to be vertices not connected to a face. Not to fault the modeller, they do great work; certainly better than I can. And I am using these in a way that they didn't intend.

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  • evilded777evilded777 Posts: 2,495

    Bejaymac said:

    Reguarding the Regions, what tools in DS did you use to rig the item ?

    Transfer Utility.

  • evilded777evilded777 Posts: 2,495

    I guess I should have stated that these artifcats only appear when the legs are moved: bend or side to side.

  • evilded777evilded777 Posts: 2,495
    edited May 5

    After much effort in Blender, I was able to locate all the vertices that were not part of faces and delete them. Seems like that solved the problem.

     

    Thanks for all your input, much appreciated.

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