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3D models of supermarket products and a large supermarket?

EightiesIsEnoughEightiesIsEnough Posts: 1,271
edited March 6 in Product Suggestions

I have seen 3d models of grocery products in the Shop and other sites.  But I am wondering if there are collections of grocery products available that contain cans of spaghetti; jars of mayonnaise, jelly, jam, pickles, relish, and other condiments; and boxes of toothpaste, soap, etc.?

Also, I am very surprised there is no large supermarket available for DAZ Studio in the Shop or any site - unless I overlooked something.  The best I could find in terms of a supermarket are just small supermarkets, but I would love to see a large supermarket, a similar size as A&P, Safeway, Loblaws, etc.

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  • ElorElor Posts: 4,100

    Its shelfs are empty and I think the materials are not made for Iray, but there is this department store for free from Inlite Studio / TruForm:

    https://inlitestudio.com/3d/product/department-store/

    You'll need a free account to get it.

  • Silent WinterSilent Winter Posts: 3,950

    EightiesIsEnough said:

    I have seen 3d models of grocery products in the Shop and other sites.  But I am wondering if there are collections of grocery products available that contain cans of spaghetti; jars of mayonnaise, jelly, jam, pickles, relish, and other condiments; and boxes of toothpaste, soap, etc.?

    Also, I am very surprised there is no large supermarket available for DAZ Studio in the Shop or any site - unless I overlooked something.  The best I could find in terms of a supermarket are just small supermarkets, but I would love to see a large supermarket, a similar size as A&P, Safeway, Loblaws, etc.

    One of the issues with larger sets is the number of texture maps and the polygon count when filling those shelves. It's possible with using low-poly backprops and higher poly closeup props, but that's a lot of work.

    I've seen empty larger stores sold, and smaller sets of produce, but not the combination.
    There's a similar issue with stadiums and filling the seats with spectators.

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 41,505
    edited March 9

    some videos 

    finding them among my thousands difficult blush

    sometimes one has kitbash lots of stuff and weep as computer suffers

    CG Axis stuff mostly 

     

    or use other software wink

    (I did get that Unreal set into DAZ Studio but after much work the drive it was on died)

    https://www.fab.com/listings/fb1ce52d-e4a3-4c88-8fa9-cbb8cea40569

    Post edited by WendyLuvsCatz on
  • StonemasonStonemason Posts: 1,259
    I've had one in production for a couple of years now, no idea when it'll be finished, coming up with designs for all the products takes forever
  • Silent WinterSilent Winter Posts: 3,950

    Stonemason said:

    I've had one in production for a couple of years now, no idea when it'll be finished, coming up with designs for all the products takes forever

    Yep, I'd had enough when I did the mini-stores for my Olde Arcade set years back. Or my fantasy market street. And those were simplistic.

    Having enough variety is a lot of work. The other question is whether customers expect the props to be detailed up close while also fitting a store (or at least an aisle or two) into a scene. Would LOD help with that (poly-wise)? And I guess for customer's there are those LOD texture scripts or scene optimiser, but not everyone has those.

    Either way - I'd buy a Stonemason store.

  • EightiesIsEnoughEightiesIsEnough Posts: 1,271

    Stonemason said:

    I've had one in production for a couple of years now, no idea when it'll be finished, coming up with designs for all the products takes forever

    Might I suggest using AI image generation for product label designs? There's Google Gemini if you want a free version.

  • LeanaLeana Posts: 13,501

    EightiesIsEnough said:

    Stonemason said:

    I've had one in production for a couple of years now, no idea when it'll be finished, coming up with designs for all the products takes forever

    Might I suggest using AI image generation for product label designs? There's Google Gemini if you want a free version.

    Except that from what I've read using AI as part of a product is not allowed at Daz...

  • richardandtracyrichardandtracy Posts: 8,029
    edited March 10

    Do be careful. Sometimes the painter gets bored and does what I did for the label of my freebie hand sanitiser bottle.

    And the suntan lotion:

    Regards,

    Richard

    Hand Sanitiser Label.png
    1000 x 1000 - 53K
    Suntan Lotion Bottle Rear Label.png
    1000 x 1000 - 45K
    Post edited by richardandtracy on
  • memcneil70memcneil70 Posts: 6,094

    If a PA did the base market structure and a script was used like Code66/Lyrra Madrill writes something in the nature of Flockit, Traffic Patterns, Instancify or whatever that could either take some basic grocery shapes, textures or a user's existing food props to populate the shelves as desired? And find a way to keep the demand on the user's computer down?

    Also think of how grocery stores are generally laid out and create subsets to allow for easier demands?

    Of course a decent exterior that is generic enough to be common in most regions of the world or customizable? 

    Not a programmer, just a user, but I do shop at Target, King Soopers, Safeway, Albertsons, modern US Military Commissaries, and previously at Tescos in England. Shopping in Greece was mostly from a dingy, hole-in-the-wall commissary in downtown Athens, or small, Greek shops. Same with German, South Korea and Taiwan shops as I was single and lived in the dorms.

  • richardandtracyrichardandtracy Posts: 8,029

    There is a 3D linear array script that could populate shelves, here: https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/9192751/#Comment_9192751

    Using this you can place one can on the shelf and completely fill a shelf with stacks of cans all instanced and neatly sorted into an instance group.

    Oh, did I mention it's free?

    Regards,

    Richard

  • SilverGirlSilverGirl Posts: 3,900
    edited March 12

    EightiesIsEnough said:

    But I am wondering if there are collections of grocery products available that contain cans of spaghetti; jars of mayonnaise, jelly, jam, pickles, relish, and other condiments; and boxes of toothpaste, soap, etc.?

    FG has multiple sets, just off the top of my head, but I know there are others as well. Go to the store, click on props, and filter by category: food -- granted you'll get a lot of things that are not grocery sets, but it's easy to scan for what you're after.

    Some of those contain toiletries, cleaning supplies, and other sundries, but these might help that niche as well:

    https://www.daz3d.com/fill-your-house-bathroom-bundle

    https://www.daz3d.com/bathroom-and-household-chemicals-props

    ...also, a lot of the bathroom sets have a bottle or two of shampoo or whatnot, and many restaurants and kitchens have condiments, laundry rooms have detergent... take a peek at what you have in your runtime and you might find some hidden gems.

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  • EightiesIsEnoughEightiesIsEnough Posts: 1,271

    Leana said:

    EightiesIsEnough said:

    Stonemason said:

    I've had one in production for a couple of years now, no idea when it'll be finished, coming up with designs for all the products takes forever

    Might I suggest using AI image generation for product label designs? There's Google Gemini if you want a free version.

    Except that from what I've read using AI as part of a product is not allowed at Daz...

    I would have thought that altering textures from items purchased from the Shop would not be allowed.  But what you said makes sense, especially when the AI is produced by Google, Adobe, or other corporations and it would be the property of the user who requested the AI, and the corporation.

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 111,348

    EightiesIsEnough said:

    Leana said:

    EightiesIsEnough said:

    Stonemason said:

    I've had one in production for a couple of years now, no idea when it'll be finished, coming up with designs for all the products takes forever

    Might I suggest using AI image generation for product label designs? There's Google Gemini if you want a free version.

    Except that from what I've read using AI as part of a product is not allowed at Daz...

    I would have thought that altering textures from items purchased from the Shop would not be allowed.  But what you said makes sense, especially when the AI is produced by Google, Adobe, or other corporations and it would be the property of the user who requested the AI, and the corporation.

    As far as I know the ruling remains that purely AI generated images are not covered by copyright - so no one owns them, though the people providing the application may well have terms of use that forbid certain things.

  • EightiesIsEnoughEightiesIsEnough Posts: 1,271

    So does that mean if I use original AI generated images created in Google Gemini or Adobe Firefly, I can offer them as textures for free that would be used for a product that is available in the Shop?

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 111,348

    EightiesIsEnough said:

    So does that mean if I use original AI generated images created in Google Gemini or Adobe Firefly, I can offer them as textures for free that would be used for a product that is available in the Shop?

    That would seem to be the copyright rule, as long as they weren't derivatives of soemthing else (not being able to copyright AI-generated work doesn't make running an image through AI a way to wipe the copyright), but don't forget the license terms of the service you are using. If in doubt, take expert legal advice.

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 41,505
    edited March 19

    I have certainly generated tileable textures with Normal and other maps using Ai if that's what you mean

    I offered them free to friends too as don't think it's ethical to sell them and certainly a DAZ PA couldn't by DAZ's own rules (I of course am not a PA)

    some just diffuse here and all I will share publicly https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/7709641/#Comment_7709641

    my PBR ones were on Facebook just friends actually and not sharing them here because unfair to DAZ artists making textures 

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