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Arrow Fletching

handyman4545handyman4545 Posts: 408
in Daz Studio Discussion

Anybody have a place where I can get some info on creating an arrow fletch?
Built the primative and mapped it.
Tried adding a jpg via cutout and base and got this...

Too translucent and the primative is glossing through.

Fletching.png
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  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 108,068

    Take a look at old-style hair, made of overlapping layers, as each layer has a similar set of needs.

    To avoid the ghosting, you need to apply the final transparency map to the strength property for the glossiness and other material components to make sure they are zeroed out where not needed.

  • felisfelis Posts: 5,770
    edited December 6

    This is a feather I made some time ago, based on an image of a feather. It doesn't have translucency.

    Feather.png
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  • handyman4545handyman4545 Posts: 408

    Take a look at old-style hair, made of overlapping layers, as each layer has a similar set of needs.

    The idea being that each layer adds more solidity reducing overall transparancy?
    Are there any "how to's" available to see?

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,083

    you could use strandbased hair, might be overkill but you could instance a quiver of arrows

  • handyman4545handyman4545 Posts: 408

    The problem isn't the images.
    I have the images.
    The problem is getting the images setup right in the "Shaders" editer.

  • felisfelis Posts: 5,770

    Do you have a black and white image, where black is fully black, to use in cut-out oppacity?

  • kprkpr Posts: 309

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    you could use strandbased hair, might be overkill but you could instance a quiver of arrows

    I thought both of those things at the same time too laugh

    How well you can achieve the look you're wanting might depend on the style of fletching you're wanting?

    Vintage fletching looks like this: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/02/e8/ea/02e8eadfebda30d2f8692d67f9198634.jpg

    It's a feather, tied, teased and pulled into and around/on the shaft.

    And https://sketchfab.com has many feather-models you can have for nada.

    You could glue to a shaft and a arrow head that you can make - pretty easily indeed - in Hexagon or blender (if you know either?) - I kinda think you might well manage it just in Daz, if you have the shaft and head already in Daz?

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,083
    edited December 7

    admittedly PAs could do a better job of arrows with dynamic strandbased hair as have the plugin and don't have to use DAZ Studio Strandbased editor

    but one really doesn't need the feather vanes etc to be dynamic, that's getting ridiculous cheeky

    I recall trying to make a quill in Carrara with dynamic hair

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  • kprkpr Posts: 309

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

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    but one really doesn't need the feather vanes etc to be dynamic, that's getting ridiculous cheeky

    Made me laugh 

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

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    ...

    I recall trying to make a quill in Carrara with dynamic hair

    I've done a few non-hair things with strand-based - it can work really well. It kinda seems possible to do "feathers" but it's an ask with that editor to get a look that isn't too strandy and also isn't too neat ... probably depends on the style of fletching being sort - modern fletching, of the style maybe being sort (given the OP) looks like this: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Du6rrTDXk6U/maxresdefault.jpg

    ... That's an ask to do well

    Might well also depend how prominent the arrow and fletching would be in a render ... in this example (blush) https://www.daz3d.com/gallery/user/5444756578500608#gallery=newest&page=1&image=1351734 , you can barely see it, so strand-based might well work (that arrow and bow is from https://www.daz3d.com/medieval-style-dforce-outfit-for-genesis-9 )

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