Skin Builder

jmucchiello

Is there an equivalent to Skin Builder for G8/G3 for G9?

N-RArts

Nothing that I know of. Only merchant resources.

Silas3D

@jmucchiello Was there something in particular you were looking to achieve?

jmucchiello

Silas3D said:

@jmucchiello Was there something in particular you were looking to achieve?

Nothing specific. I was told it was "an important G8 resource not available in G9". I really don't know what Skin Builder does that is so important. I've been editing skin textures directly in image software to get skin effects for the most part. But if there's an easier solution, I'm willing to try one.

daveso

jmucchiello said:

Silas3D said:

@jmucchiello Was there something in particular you were looking to achieve?

Nothing specific. I was told it was "an important G8 resource not available in G9". I really don't know what Skin Builder does that is so important. I've been editing skin textures directly in image software to get skin effects for the most part. But if there's an easier solution, I'm willing to try one.

I dont remember the proceedure exactly,  but you can create a skin in Skin Buider, save it, then apply one of those G8 to G9 clones and apply the created skin to that. I think thats how it went. I did do it once, but a few months ago . It worked. I just found this but did not watch it. Could be your answer. 
Skin Builder 8 Skin to G9

kyoto kid

...I  find it indispensable particularly for types of skins that are somewhat uncommon (like vary fair and albino). It also saves money on having to buy characters just for the skis.  I've worked with it since the Gen2 version .

It also includes various overlays like freckles and imperfections, lip colours eye colours and the such.

 

kpr

daveso said:

jmucchiello said:

Silas3D said:

@jmucchiello Was there something in particular you were looking to achieve?

Nothing specific. I was told it was "an important G8 resource not available in G9". I really don't know what Skin Builder does that is so important. I've been editing skin textures directly in image software to get skin effects for the most part. But if there's an easier solution, I'm willing to try one.

I dont remember the proceedure exactly,  but you can create a skin in Skin Buider, save it, then apply one of those G8 to G9 clones and apply the created skin to that. I think thats how it went. I did do it once, but a few months ago . It worked. I just found this but did not watch it. Could be your answer. 
Skin Builder 8 Skin to G9

Yeah, video uses the "RSSY Material Suit": Do Skin Builder on G8 - apply via "Material Suit" to G9 - muck about with the eyes etc -- Does work, at least on vanilla characters, haven't tried on a character with Skinbuilder "skin": https://www.daz3d.com/rssy-genesis-8-and-81-female-material-suit-for-genesis-9 (male character suit can also be purchased)

There's also this product https://www.daz3d.com/legacy-uvs-for-genesis-9-genesis-3-8-and-81-female - I don't own it, so can't say if you can load Skinbuilder made "skins"  to it. See this post on these forumns: https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/606081/legacy-uvs-for-genesis-9-will-i-be-able-to-convert-textures for info

And there's J's tutorial (from 2022 before many g8-g9 plugins were available) which, from a skim read, seems extremely full on and requires a third party product (at least I think 3rd party): https://www.versluis.com/2022/11/converting-skin-textures-for-use-with-genesis-9/ <-- many "other forums" suggest something like this as the "best" method

You might find such posts by doing a search for "daz g8 to g9 uvs"

Silas3D

@jmucchiello reason I asked is I've just submitted a Genesis 8/9 product for testing that allows you to change skin color but still retain saturation and detail - if you add color to the base and translucency channels with the color picker, it tends to muddy the result and make skin darker than it should be. I've attached a promo which shows a comparison using Victoria 9's Vitiligo skin.

Obviously not as comprehensive as skin builder, but if you were looking for alien/fantasy skins for Genesis 9, my product could help once it's released. You can use it with any skin, so really versatile and will give you different results based on the skin chosen.

jmucchiello

Your product sounds interesting, Silas. I'm not adverse to editing textures because they don't easily recolor. So anything that makes recoloring easier is welcome. Any chance this could be generalized to non-skin textures? Just curious. 

Artini

There are also:
https://www.daz3d.com/ice-and-snow-skin-builder-genesis-9
https://www.daz3d.com/mutant-burns-skin-builder-for-genesis-9
https://www.daz3d.com/kintsugi-inspired-skin-builder-for-genesis-9

 

Artini

Skin builders for the other generations:
https://www.daz3d.com/skin-builder-8-for-genesis-8-females
https://www.daz3d.com/skin-builder-3-for-genesis-3-female-s
https://www.daz3d.com/skin-builder-for-genesis-and-genesis2-female-s
https://www.daz3d.com/save-and-share-for-skin-builder

 

Artini

For recoloring you could probably use:
https://www.daz3d.com/texture-booster
or
https://www.daz3d.com/xtreme-reshade-for-iray-uber

 

Silas3D

jmucchiello said:

Your product sounds interesting, Silas. I'm not adverse to editing textures because they don't easily recolor. So anything that makes recoloring easier is welcome. Any chance this could be generalized to non-skin textures? Just curious. 

Hmm... technically possible but would have to be a separate product given the technique - essentially it would mean having multiple preset for different texture sizes eg 1k, 2k, 4k etc.

mding

@jmucchiello: I am not sure if I understand, but could this be helpful (also for g9)

https://www.daz3d.com/ultimate-pbrskin-manager

and for IRAY https://www.daz3d.com/ultimate-iray-skin-manager (also for g9)  also with tutorial in bundle https://www.daz3d.com/skin-shading-bundle