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Question - Expanded services

father1776father1776 Posts: 982
in The Commons

Given the state of 'cloud' technology and the particulars of DAZ 3D

I am surprised that DAZ 3D does not offer RENDER FARM Services to

their customers (for a price of course).

 

It could be added to the DAZ 3D software...cloud is already there. got scene the way you want it, did a couple of partial

sample renders, now you want it done, hit a button, your end does a quick cost estimate, member

chooses any options, price agreed...push button, your render farm pulls the info,,,does the render

While we work on other things.

 

You do the work we pay you.

 

What do you think?

Comments

  • father1776father1776 Posts: 982

    ? gezzzz this sunk like a home sick rock dropped off a cliff

    any opinions on this ? if not, promise to let it die quickly

     

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,757

    If you go into Render Setting under Advanced there is Cloud [BETA] but the server, user, and password is blank. I asked about it but then lost track of the thread I asked about it in...

  • father1776father1776 Posts: 982
    edited March 2016

    oh...so maybe they built the option in....enquiring minds want to

    know because I render on a laptop, with 8 gig memory

    it does the job but takes half a day to do it....I would love the option

    to pay a REASONABLE fee to have a server farm at DAZ do it for me.

     

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  • Capt-FlashbackCapt-Flashback Posts: 37

    Probably hard to get the price point to be reasonable. Initial cloud investment is expensive and ongoing costs to keep it going, scale up, renew, upgrade etc... Pricey. Considering the cost of the user upgrading his or her HW to produce the same result is somewhere like 100 to 2000 depending the desired result and circumstance. Plus I'd think at any given time there probably less than 10K users who are active and not all of them would use the service. I might be wrong there... Then many users are international - there are a few limitations on transferring information between countries. That might be a limiting factor. Having said all that (and probably shooting your hopes and dreams down in the process), it would be a great idea since many other technology based companies are going in a similar direction. I know the major cloud companies would wecome the business.

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,757
    edited March 2016

    Rendering might be the most expensive thing you can do as a consumer level computing product. I know Blender has commercial render farms:

    https://render.st/plans-pricing/

    and a setup video:

    https://cgcookie.com/archive/setting-up-a-render-farm/

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  • Kevin SandersonKevin Sanderson Posts: 1,643
    edited March 2016

    It has been asked for before several times over the years. There are issues however.

    The Cloud BETA is for iRay. And it's not ready. There was also talk about connecting iRay to the $50,000 nVidia render appliance, and one of the DAZ guys (I think Spooky) offered to find out what to do if anyone had access to one of those on their premises (like a small production house might). There's supposedly a version in the works that would allow network access to all your computers on your premises that have nVidia GPUs. I haven't read anything more. The license DAZ has for 3Delight does not allow render farms, but does allow for unlimited cores on a single workstation. For example, if you have a single workstation with 2 or more multi-core Xeon processors. You can export RIB files and render in the free 3Delight stand alone version separately from DAZ Studio, but the cores are limited in that version. Sometimes there are problems between the version released to DAZ and the stand alone. The 3Delight licenses for render farms are expensive (3Delight is a big time movie studio render engine). There are also EULA issues about where the content data files reside as you are only licensed to use the content on a computer or computers you can use and only on your premises (that wording, the way I recall it, rules out distant render farms). At least that was the latest I've read here in the forums over several years.

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  • father1776father1776 Posts: 982

    so--- not ready/able to do it at the moment

    but have looked into it

    maybe in the future

     

    got it

     

  • OstadanOstadan Posts: 1,130

    One problem, as some of us who've tried using a distributed Luxrender on a local network have seen, is that transferring all those nice high-resolution textures (and, perhaps, high-poly meshes) to the server(s) uses a big chunk o' bandwidth.  I'm not sure how practical such a service would actually be.

  • SickleYieldSickleYield Posts: 7,649
    father1776_5775a1855d said:

    Given the state of 'cloud' technology and the particulars of DAZ 3D

    I am surprised that DAZ 3D does not offer RENDER FARM Services to

    their customers (for a price of course).

     

    Well, one important reason is that Daz doesn't HAVE a render farm.  I don't think I'll get in trouble for saying that I've been to their offices and they have enough computing for their own rendering purposes, but certainly not a room full of server racks.  Setting up a render farm large enough to rent out "space" on it is a high initial cost outlay.

  • father1776father1776 Posts: 982

    Well, ya a render farm would be an investment at their end.

    as for bandwidth issues, if they limited it to models and textures featured 

    in the DAZ store, they would not need to download a texture, they would just

    need to know which one it was, since they have them all already

     

     

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