I want to buy a new GPU what you guys recommend with my pc case and motherboard

XtroXtro Posts: 39

So my current specs are:

Motherboard: Gigabyte Z390 AORUS Pro : https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/Z390-AORUS-PRO-rev-10

PC Case: Corsair Carbide series air 540 gaming case :  https://www.overclockers.co.uk/corsair-carbide-540-high-airflow-atx-cube-case-black-cc-9011030-ww-ca-143-cs.html

Rest:

CPU: i9 eight core processor i9-9900k (3.6ghz)

PSU: Corsair 1200W HX series modular 80 plus : platinum ultra quiet

RAM: 64gb of ram

GPU 1070ti 8gb that i want to replace.

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My budget for a better GPU is between £700 to £900 no higher. I want a GPU thats fits in my case and also run's on my motherboard. Also i will need the GPU for video editing and want to play about with A.I tools. 

 

cheers for any help guys.

Comments

  • ChezjuanChezjuan Posts: 537

    If you do Iray rendering, you want as much VRAM as you can get for the price. If you want the latest, you may want to check out the RTX 5060 Ti 16GB models. They are about $500 US for models like the ZOTAC Gaming GeForce RTX 5060 Ti 16GB, which is a dual-fan unit that should fit in the case no problem. It's not the fastest card, but with Iray and AI you need the VRAM more than the raw processing power.

    PCIe is backward compatible, so it will work with your board.

  • richardandtracyrichardandtracy Posts: 7,113

    Please be aware, as a caveat to Chezjuan's suggestion above, that you cannot use Daz Studio 4.xx with the RTX 50xx cards, there is an Iray incompatibility between DS4 and a version of Iray that runs on the RTX 50xx series cards. You'll be limited to the DS6.xxx 2025 alphas/beta software until the full version comes out.

    Regards,

    Richard.

     

     

  • Seven193Seven193 Posts: 1,141

    Why buy new?  You find an used 3080 TI (12GB) on Ebay for around $500.  For a cheap end 16GB GPU, you will have to upgrade to a 50xx card.  I would skip the 40xx line entirely.

  • Charlie JudgeCharlie Judge Posts: 13,242

    Seven193 said:

    Why buy new?  You find an used 3080 TI (12GB) on Ebay for around $500.  For a cheap end 16GB GPU, you will have to upgrade to a 50xx card.  I would skip the 40xx line entirely.

    Why would you skip the 16 GB RTX 4060 ti? 

  • dtrscbrutaldtrscbrutal Posts: 566

    I suggest you first ask yourself do you want the full functionallty of Daz Studio 4.xx or do you want to be exclusive to Daz Studio 2025 Alpha? 5000 RTX series will not work with Daz Studio 4.xx.
     I have had very good experence with MSI GPUs and would go with that brand again, but thats me.
     Per pcpartpicker.com (USA prices) the upper end of your budget will get you a 5070 Ti 16GB (Daz Studio 2025 Alpha only) or a 4070 super, Ti, Ti super 12-16 GB. There are a few 3080 Ti 12GB there too.
     The 4000 RTX are mostly overpriced now, what I paid $550 for 13 months ago is nearly $1200 now. You could go budget and get a RTX 3060 12GB for $300-ish and save up for an upgrade when (if) the GPU market becomes more favorable. RTX 4060 Ti 16GB are probably the best price performance, for Daz Studio 4.xx but that GPU is bus limited and not the best choice if you like to game.

  • ChezjuanChezjuan Posts: 537

    richardandtracy said:

    Please be aware, as a caveat to Chezjuan's suggestion above, that you cannot use Daz Studio 4.xx with the RTX 50xx cards, there is an Iray incompatibility between DS4 and a version of Iray that runs on the RTX 50xx series cards. You'll be limited to the DS6.xxx 2025 alphas/beta software until the full version comes out.

    Regards,

    Richard.

     

     

    I wasn't aware of that. Thanks for the info.

  • Cam FoxCam Fox Posts: 254

    I had a similar starting point. My setup was i7-9700K, 64 GB RAM, Asus ROG STRIX Z390-E, overclocked GTX 1080 Ti 11 GB video card, 750 W power supply. Got into locally hosted Stable Diffusion and eventually outgrew the slow inference times and GPU VRAM capacity limiting my use of newer-generation ai checkpoints, slow renders for large daz and blender scenes, etc.

    I tried the 4070 Ti Super 16GB and LOVED IT. But I decided to increase budget for the 4090 24GB so I could squeeze out more performance, and so I could use larger Stable Diffusion models like Flux and Hunyuan/Wan Video. (It was incredibly frustrating to hit the VRAM ceiling and never get to work with those models.)

     

    Thoughts:

    - Stable Diffusion is highly iterative. Shaving a few seconds off *each generation* is enormously valuable.

    - As far as I can tell, currently Nvidia 4000 series GPUs are the sweet spot for Daz/Blender/Stable Diffusion combination workflows. More cuda cores than 3000 series (speeds Stable Diffusion) and generally easier setup/faster/more compatibility for ai work than AMD cards. Super fast for Blender and compatible with 4.x Daz. This all comes at a price, but money is renewable, time is not.

    - Nvidia 5000 series GPUs are a good thing because there's slightly less competition for 4000 series than when 4000 series was the best you could get. :P

    - Your power supply is a huge consideration. Inventory your whole computer to estimate wattage. Use ChatGPT and PCPartPicker to help, if needed. My 750 W power supply was too small to support the GPU upgrade, which increased expense.

    - The 4070 Ti was physically big, but the 4090 is massive. Not sure about compatibility with your case. Definitely measure! (Or increase budget for a new case.)

    - Case thermals are a consideration as well. The GPU will throttle when it gets too hot. Stable Diffusion pushes the GPU hard. If throttling turns out to be a problem, you might want to consider a liquid cooler for your CPU, better fans, etc. (Which could also force your build into a new case.)

    - The GPU is one of the most expensive parts of my build, so I added a protection plan, which increased expense.
     

    It may be worth waiting to build a bigger budget, or stay strictly within budget for now so you have something to work with while you build a new budget anticipating you might outgrow it.

  • XtroXtro Posts: 39

    Thanks guys ive been looking and read all your post and orderd a MSI GeForce RTX 4070TI Super 16gb. Looks like the card will just to say fit my case. 

  • Seven193Seven193 Posts: 1,141

    AI is a very wide and expanding field.  As soon as you switch from images to video, GPU requirements increase greatly.  If you want to work with AI video, you need at least a 24 GB GPU card, at a minimum.

  • Charlie JudgeCharlie Judge Posts: 13,242
    edited July 31

    I am having to rebuild my main computer that was badly damaged in a lightning strike. I would like to use a 24 gb RTX 3090 but I can't find any at  a reasonable price. Does anybody have any suggestions?

    Post edited by Charlie Judge on
  • kprkpr Posts: 297
    edited July 31

    Charlie Judge said:

    I am having to rebuild my main computer that was badly damaged in a lightning strike. I would like to use a 24 gb RTX 2090 but I can't find any at  a reasonable price. Does anybody have any suggestions?

    If you're brave enough, eBay  is your bst/only bet for 2-series and 4-series cards at anything like reaasonable prices. However, weirdly, 3-series cards can be got new for more reasonable money - try pcpartpicker.com as a starting point and also put very specific part names/numbers from it into your fav search engine.

    If you can stand to wait, it's extremely likely the 5-series cards will get you best bang for buck... I haven't tried this but theoretically you could have Daz 4.2x and Daz 2025 installed on the same machine, build in 4.2x and render in 5 (it'll be a pain, but - if that works - will give you prob the cheapest hardware option). All that depends on how much of your existing rig you are building (mobo, power supply and so on)?

    Post edited by kpr on
  • Charlie JudgeCharlie Judge Posts: 13,242

    kpr said:

    Charlie Judge said:

    I am having to rebuild my main computer that was badly damaged in a lightning strike. I would like to use a 24 gb RTX 2090 but I can't find any at  a reasonable price. Does anybody have any suggestions?

    If you're brave enough, eBay  is your bst/only bet for 2-series and 4-series cards at anything like reaasonable prices. However, weirdly, 3-series cards can be got new for more reasonable money - try pcpartpicker.com as a starting point and also put very specific part names/numbers from it into your fav search engine.

    If you can stand to wait, it's extremely likely the 5-series cards will get you best bang for buck... I haven't tried this but theoretically you could have Daz 4.2x and Daz 2025 installed on the same machine, build in 4.2x and render in 5 (it'll be a pain, but - if that works - will give you prob the cheapest hardware option). All that depends on how much of your existing rig you are building (mobo, power supply and so on)?

    Sorry, I made a typo. I meant a 24 GB 3090. That one isn't shown on  pcparts picker.

  • kprkpr Posts: 297

    Charlie Judge said:

    kpr said:

    Charlie Judge said:

    I am having to rebuild my main computer that was badly damaged in a lightning strike. I would like to use a 24 gb RTX 2090 but I can't find any at  a reasonable price. Does anybody have any suggestions?

    If you're brave enough, eBay  is your bst/only bet for 2-series and 4-series cards at anything like reaasonable prices. However, weirdly, 3-series cards can be got new for more reasonable money - try pcpartpicker.com as a starting point and also put very specific part names/numbers from it into your fav search engine.

    If you can stand to wait, it's extremely likely the 5-series cards will get you best bang for buck... I haven't tried this but theoretically you could have Daz 4.2x and Daz 2025 installed on the same machine, build in 4.2x and render in 5 (it'll be a pain, but - if that works - will give you prob the cheapest hardware option). All that depends on how much of your existing rig you are building (mobo, power supply and so on)?

    Sorry, I made a typo. I meant a 24 GB 3090. That one isn't shown on  pcparts picker.

    In £ you'd be paying 600 minimum from eBay. Difficult for me to check in $

    Type  "rtx 3090 24GB" into a search engine and scroll through the options.

    If your mobo/case/power and cooling can hack it - you could get two 3060 12GB (Daz will use both) for less than a 3090

    (I would still consider a 5-series and the "both Daz Versions installed" though - for better longevity if nothing else)

  • Charlie JudgeCharlie Judge Posts: 13,242

    kpr said:

    Charlie Judge said:

    kpr said:

    Charlie Judge said:

    I am having to rebuild my main computer that was badly damaged in a lightning strike. I would like to use a 24 gb RTX 2090 but I can't find any at  a reasonable price. Does anybody have any suggestions?

    If you're brave enough, eBay  is your bst/only bet for 2-series and 4-series cards at anything like reaasonable prices. However, weirdly, 3-series cards can be got new for more reasonable money - try pcpartpicker.com as a starting point and also put very specific part names/numbers from it into your fav search engine.

    If you can stand to wait, it's extremely likely the 5-series cards will get you best bang for buck... I haven't tried this but theoretically you could have Daz 4.2x and Daz 2025 installed on the same machine, build in 4.2x and render in 5 (it'll be a pain, but - if that works - will give you prob the cheapest hardware option). All that depends on how much of your existing rig you are building (mobo, power supply and so on)?

    Sorry, I made a typo. I meant a 24 GB 3090. That one isn't shown on  pcparts picker.

    In £ you'd be paying 600 minimum from eBay. Difficult for me to check in $

    Type  "rtx 3090 24GB" into a search engine and scroll through the options.

    If your mobo/case/power and cooling can hack it - you could get two 3060 12GB (Daz will use both) for less than a 3090

    (I would still consider a 5-series and the "both Daz Versions installed" though - for better longevity if nothing else)

    As I understand it while it will use both cards to increase speed the full scene must be able to fit on each card. So a scene over 12 gb would still revert to slow CPU processing.

  • kprkpr Posts: 297
    edited July 31

    Charlie Judge said:

     

    As I understand it while it will use both cards to increase speed the full scene must be able to fit on each card. So a scene over 12 gb would still revert to slow CPU processing.

    My take on that is Scene Optimizer is < $30

    Yeah, it's more setup work, but I've never designed a scene (multi-figure G9 too) where I can't use 4k and scene optimizer (gallery plug, but this kinda thing: https://www.daz3d.com/gallery/user/5444756578500608#gallery=newest&page=1&image=1352845) There's no need for the full-on textures once your figures are any distance from the camera. The 24GB cards - all series - are very niche (and so limited supply) and you will pay through the nose to get one (whichever series).

    Guess it depends on your budget for your rebuild, your use-case (just Daz / gaming / other Gfx work etc etc) and - as I put - the longevity you want to get from it.

    Post edited by kpr on
  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 107,945

    Charlie Judge said:

    kpr said:

    Charlie Judge said:

    kpr said:

    Charlie Judge said:

    I am having to rebuild my main computer that was badly damaged in a lightning strike. I would like to use a 24 gb RTX 2090 but I can't find any at  a reasonable price. Does anybody have any suggestions?

    If you're brave enough, eBay  is your bst/only bet for 2-series and 4-series cards at anything like reaasonable prices. However, weirdly, 3-series cards can be got new for more reasonable money - try pcpartpicker.com as a starting point and also put very specific part names/numbers from it into your fav search engine.

    If you can stand to wait, it's extremely likely the 5-series cards will get you best bang for buck... I haven't tried this but theoretically you could have Daz 4.2x and Daz 2025 installed on the same machine, build in 4.2x and render in 5 (it'll be a pain, but - if that works - will give you prob the cheapest hardware option). All that depends on how much of your existing rig you are building (mobo, power supply and so on)?

    Sorry, I made a typo. I meant a 24 GB 3090. That one isn't shown on  pcparts picker.

    In £ you'd be paying 600 minimum from eBay. Difficult for me to check in $

    Type  "rtx 3090 24GB" into a search engine and scroll through the options.

    If your mobo/case/power and cooling can hack it - you could get two 3060 12GB (Daz will use both) for less than a 3090

    (I would still consider a 5-series and the "both Daz Versions installed" though - for better longevity if nothing else)

    As I understand it while it will use both cards to increase speed the full scene must be able to fit on each card. So a scene over 12 gb would still revert to slow CPU processing.

    Yes, that is right. At best (and i don't think it is possible with 3060s) you can combine their memory for materials, with a hit on performance; materials do tend to be the heaviest part of DS scenes though.

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