A lot of products are missing in smart content

Recently I noticed that a lot of products are missing in smart content.
So I asked google and the daz forum for advice...and I couldn't believe what I saw.

Appearantly a lot of products found in the official daz store don't have the necessary metadata to work properly with their own software.
What's baffling me, is that daz isn't adressing this issue.

This wouldn't bother me if it would only be a few products. But in the last purchase I made, almost half the products I bought were affected. And I bought a lot.

Does the community just accept this? 

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  • LeanaLeana Posts: 13,033

    Yes, there are products in the store which don't have metadata.

    Most "regular releases" do have them nowadays, but products which were transfered from Renderosity this year usually don't. We were told that creating metadata for them all was not practical due to the volume of products transfered. Maybe they will be added progressively. 

    In the mean time, you can either categorize them yourself, or use content wizard to do it for you

  • memcneil70memcneil70 Posts: 5,707
    edited July 2025

    Also early products sold by DAZ3d did not have metadata until sometime in Genesis 2 era. So you can find some items with and without metadata up to that period. Also, like Renderosity, a large number of products were brought over from RuntimeDNA without metadata and their SKUs are in the 20000s. So when you buy older products or a RuntimeDNA or one recently received you will need to assign your own metadata.

    This is a video on YouTube by one of our past PAs SloshWerks who made this 11 years ago. It is old but he was very good at clearly explaining what he is doing. There are other videos as well and threads where people discuss this in the forums. Content Wizard is a life saver though.

    Edit. Helps to add the link.

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  • hillside3dhillside3d Posts: 8
    edited July 2025

    Leana said:

    Maybe they will be added progressively. 

    I hope so.

    Leana said:

    We were told that creating metadata for them all was not practical due to the volume of products transfered. 

    Yes I read that aswell, however I think that's a poor excuse.  I highly doubt that this is a process which cannot be automated.

    Leana said:

    In the mean time, you can either categorize them yourself, or use content wizard to do it for you

    Hey thanks for the tip.
    Sadly I would have to pay $40.95 to fix a problem that shouldn't exist in the first place.

    memcneil70 said:

    This is a video on YouTube by one of our past PAs SloshWerks who made this 11 years ago.

    Hey thanks, thats good to know. 

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  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 109,705

    hillside3d said:

    Leana said:

    Maybe they will be added progressively. 

    I hope so.

    Leana said:

    We were told that creating metadata for them all was not practical due to the volume of products transfered. 

    Yes I read that aswell, however I think that's a poor excuse.  I highly doubt that this is a process which cannot be automated.

    How would it be automated?

    Leana said:

    In the mean time, you can either categorize them yourself, or use content wizard to do it for you

    Hey thanks for the tip.
    Sadly I would have to pay $40.95 to fix a problem that shouldn't exist in the first place.
     

  • jjoynerjjoyner Posts: 787

    I am slowly bringing content that I’ve installed on my laptop over to the newer desktop that I bought last summer.  On the laptop,

    • I install from the DAZ3D store to an external HDD using DIM.
       
    • I install content from other stores (Renderosity, RuntimeDNA, etc.) manually, create a Daz Studio Product for each content and add basic metadata so that I can view the content in Smart Content as well as the Content Library.

    Last summer, after much deliberation, I installed all DAZ3D content onto the desktop using DIM rather than connecting the external HDD or copying the HDD’s files to the desktop.  About 1,300 of the 3,200 installed content, though, still have some or all of their items categorized in Lost and Found.

    Today, I connected the external HDD to the desktop to finally explore how to deal with installed Poser content.  In Daz Studio (4.24.0.3) on the desktop, I can see the installed content in the HDD’s Poser Format in the Content Library with no problem.  However, I’d also like to see it in Smart Content as I can on the laptop.

    Is there a file (or files) that I can copy from the laptop to the desktop so that Daz Studio shows the Poser content in Smart Content also?  UserData, perhaps?  Other?

    I recently bought RiverSoft Art’s Content Wizard but it only works on zip files that are configured for Daz Studio; it won’t handle Poser configured zip files.  Or is there a way to use it to generate metadata for the Poser files so that the Poser content appears in Smart Content on the desktop?

    Thanks in advance.

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  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,632
    edited March 27

    hillside3d said:

    Recently I noticed that a lot of products are missing in smart content.
    So I asked google and the daz forum for advice...and I couldn't believe what I saw.

    Appearantly a lot of products found in the official daz store don't have the necessary metadata to work properly with their own software.
    What's baffling me, is that daz isn't adressing this issue.

    This wouldn't bother me if it would only be a few products. But in the last purchase I made, almost half the products I bought were affected. And I bought a lot.

    Does the community just accept this? 

     

    A lot of products are missing in smart content. - 

    Yep-, always have been.  SmartContent is an idea that has never worked up to the way it was promoted, and everytime DAZ acquires a new bunch of existing products from other stores, the vast majority of them have never been processed into smart content.  


    What's baffling me, is that daz isn't adressing this issue.

    DAZ hasn't updated their usuer manual in nearly 13 years old, even though it only addresses how to use the no longer licensed 3DL renderer and lists the pre-iray Genesis 2 as the latest figure base.  A large percentage of the catalog don't have read-mes in the product wiki. Why?  I can't speculate as forumn rules don't allow us to do that. 

    Does the community just accept this? 

    Well, a lot of us simply don't use SmartContent, given that nothing sold by a non-DAZ store is going to work with it anyway, so those of use who don't generally don't care.  For those who do, there are some products that let you convert outside product to SmartContent, but it's quite labor intensive.  Outside of that, it's DAZ's store and their product, so there's not much we can do otherwise except just not buy here.    

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  • kprkpr Posts: 374
    edited March 27

    hillside3d said:

    ...
    Sadly I would have to pay $40.95 to fix a problem that shouldn't exist in the first place.

    $12.29 to 'fix' your annoyance, today smiley

    Post edited by kpr on
  • golem841golem841 Posts: 190

    Not to mention older products that are still in *.exe...

     

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