Looking for subtley evil characters or mischevious

Daggarking

Hello everyone I am looking for some evil character that comes across when looking at the face as someone you couldn't trust. Not outlandishly evil. Does anyone know any good face presets or characters that would fit this bill, I'm looking for one in the style of genesis 8 male if that helps

memcneil70

Not to disuade you, but anyone can be that. Just look at people in history or the news. But consider working with expressions, the subtle lifted eyebrow, curl of lip, smirk... all indicating getting one over on a 'rube' or an audience when the person is grifting. Or a woman who turns arounds, smirking slyly as she just poisoned the wine or salted the child's favorite treat. I know you asked for G8M, but there is one pack for Pixie 9 that has some incredible expressions that even a tiny bit work fantastic to twist a nice person into something sinister. This pack was done by Neikdian, so I looked the PA up and there is an expression pack for Drutherson 8 which you might work with. Pixie might give you some ideas to work on your G8M, if the face can move that way. (I can't remember if there is a radical difference difference between G8 to G9, but I think it has changed.)

richardandtracy

G8 has more facial bones, but I think it's pretty fair bet to say that G9's facial expressions are better. The bone names and locations are similar, but the results on G9 seem to be better. That's not to say G8's expressions are bad, because you can get G8 to do both subtle and blatant expressions. The one below only affects 4 bones, all four being lip bones.

Regards, Richard.

Daggarking

@memcneil70

Ok thank you I will try it usually I always thought there would be some sort of sneaky looking face that gives off those tones before they even begin speaking something in the face that looks sneaky like a more angular chin that softer on the sides and the brows being a little lower but I'll try just looking at expressions instead maybe I was over thinking it. Thank you for your response.

@richardandtracy

Honestly I was thinking about using Genesis 9 but I mean I'm kinda on a budget and Genesis 8 are always on sale and they always have better discounts then Genesis 9. Which makes sense since they are the newer stuff. But like maybe add one in but I don't wouldnt that clash too much with the genesis 8 character models if they stand too close to each other.

memcneil70

@Daggarking, with just the use of the Genesis Starter Essentials and a little investment into the shaping add-ons from DAZ you can do a lot. Everything else is like adding chocolate/fruit syrup onto cheesecake. Nice if you like it, but not necessary for enjoying the cheesecake.

Pose packs can get to be repetitive, but look for PAs whose work you enjoy and buy a few for each generation when on sale. The nice thing about G1 and G9 is you can use them regardless of sex. G2, G3, G8, G8.1 are segregated by sex. Although they are expensive at full price, a good investment are the Bone Minion Bundles by RiverSoftArt so you can use any pose from any generation on another as needed.

Look for Cross-Figure Resources, Wear Them All - Autofitting Clones, UV Swap type scripts that can extend limited budgets by sharing products across generations and sexes.