In the Blink of an Eye, do you get an error?

Write IdeaWrite Idea Posts: 433
edited June 16 in The Commons

So awhile ago, I noticed The Age for Genesis 9 (which appears to be missing now) product gives Genesis 9 an error when using the blink pose. An update came out, but the problem still isn't fixed 100%. Morphs still trigger.

• PFA The Age Baby Eye Left Closed Correct
• PFA The Age Baby Eye Right Closed Correct

And a DUPLICATE FORMULA warning appears for...

• PFA The Age - Elderly Head.dsf
• PFA The Age - Mature Head

Plus Clyde 9 and Monaliza 9 also seem to have this little hiccup when using the blink morph. The following morphs trigger...

• Clyde_head_cbs_HeadBlinkR 
• PNMonaliza_head_cbs_Eyes_r

Of all the morphs/poses I have, it's weird the blink morph is the one that seems to pop up with the most errors. So as a public service announcement, I thought I'd let everyone know. I have submitted a ticket for the three products.


EDIT: If you have something like this, these are the instructions on how deactivate the offending morphs.
• 1) Click the 4 LINES on the PARAMETERS PANE. A popup menu will appear.
• 2) Click PREFERENCES, then SHOW HIDDEN PROPERTIES.
• 3) Under the CURRENTLY USED option, there will be all the morphs currently active on your Genesis 9 figure. You'll have to wander through the list to see what is what. Just dial it down to 0 to turn off the morph.

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  • EveEve Posts: 8
    edited June 16

    Thanks for posting this. I've just started encountering this issue with The Age for Genesis 9 suddenly popping up the same 'Duplicate Formula' error reported here, except it happens whenever loading a Genesis 9 character. The error stops if I remove PFA The Age - Elderly Head.dsf, but I have no idea how to locate a "duplicate formula". I've tried uninstalling Monaliza, too, since she's the only corresponding (to the above report) product that I had installed after this issue began. The error still occurs even with her uninstalled. I don't recall there being a recent update to PFA's The Age prior to getting this error tonight; it was fine the day before yesterday. 

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  • Write IdeaWrite Idea Posts: 433
    edited June 16

    I don't think the blink morphs and the duplicate formula error are connected. Just two random things happening at the same time.

    I noticed someone else posted that they had a duplicate error problem, but it wasn't related to The Age of Genesis 9.

    If you (or anyone reading this) are still getting a duplicate formula error, you can check under MENU>HELP>TROUBLESHOOTING>VIEW LOG FILE and search for WARNING on the txt file that loads.

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  • Lee MoonLee Moon Posts: 926

    Write Idea said:

    I don't think the blink morphs and the duplicate formula error are connected. Just two random things happening at the same time.

    I noticed someone else posted that they had a duplicate error problem, but it wasn't related to The Age of Genesis 9.

    If you (or anyone reading this) are still getting a duplicate formula error, you can check under MENU>HELP>TROUBLESHOOTING>VIEW LOG FILE and search for WARNING on the txt file that loads.

    The update for The Age of Genesis 9 appeared in DIM a few days ago. I installed it and got the duplicate formula error. By the end of the day, I uninstalled The Age. No more duplicate formula errors. I'll just wait for another update for it and try again later.

    Lee

     

  • nemesis10nemesis10 Posts: 3,770

    Lee Moon said:

    Write Idea said:

    I don't think the blink morphs and the duplicate formula error are connected. Just two random things happening at the same time.

    I noticed someone else posted that they had a duplicate error problem, but it wasn't related to The Age of Genesis 9.

    If you (or anyone reading this) are still getting a duplicate formula error, you can check under MENU>HELP>TROUBLESHOOTING>VIEW LOG FILE and search for WARNING on the txt file that loads.

    The update for The Age of Genesis 9 appeared in DIM a few days ago. I installed it and got the duplicate formula error. By the end of the day, I uninstalled The Age. No more duplicate formula errors. I'll just wait for another update for it and try again later.

    Lee

    I had the same problem so I uninstalled The Age in DIM and reinstalled it and no longer got the Blink error or the duplicate formula error.

  • melaniemelanie Posts: 806
    edited June 17

    Thanks for this post. I was going crazy trying to figure out what was causing this error. I just uninstalled The Age because I was getting this error on every Genesis 9 character I loaded. I haven't tried reinstalling The Age yet, but when I uninstalled it, the error stopped coming. I think I'll wait to reinstall it after there's an update on it to fix the problem.

    Edit: I just discovered there's no product page for The Age. Has it been deleted?

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  • PFAPFA Posts: 131

    Hi guys please do let me know if there are any more issues the product is live again

  • Lee MoonLee Moon Posts: 926

    PFA said:

    Hi guys please do let me know if there are any more issues the product is live again

    Reinstalled The Age after deleting it earlier this week. Package date shows 6-13-2025. Same duplicate formulas error. Uninstalled The Age again. No more duplicate forumulas error.  Still not fixed.  This started after the recent update that showed up in DIM.

    Lee 

  • Write IdeaWrite Idea Posts: 433

    PFA said:

    Hi guys please do let me know if there are any more issues the product is live again

    I'm also getting the duplicate error.

    The EYE BLINK expression still triggers the eyelids to not fully close. JCM's PFA THE AGE BABY EYE LEFT CLOSED CORRECT and PFA THE AGE BABY EYE RIGHT CLOSED CORRECT trigger as well.

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  • PFAPFA Posts: 131

    Lee Moon said:

    PFA said:

    Hi guys please do let me know if there are any more issues the product is live again

    Reinstalled The Age after deleting it earlier this week. Package date shows 6-13-2025. Same duplicate formulas error. Uninstalled The Age again. No more duplicate forumulas error.  Still not fixed.  This started after the recent update that showed up in DIM.

    Lee 

    ok so you are not having the blinking problem right? , but you are still getting the duplicated formulas error right? 

  • PFAPFA Posts: 131

    Write Idea said:

    PFA said:

    Hi guys please do let me know if there are any more issues the product is live again

    I'm also getting the duplicate error.

    The EYE BLINK expression still triggers the eyelids to not fully close. JCM's PFA THE AGE BABY EYE LEFT CLOSED CORRECT and PFA THE AGE BABY EYE RIGHT CLOSED CORRECT trigger as well.

    This shows that you still have those 2 files. with the updated i have delleted it , so for that problem to dissapear i suggest you to unistall it and install it again. as for the the duplicated error I'm working on it rght now

  • Write IdeaWrite Idea Posts: 433

    PFA said:

    This shows that you still have those 2 files. with the updated i have delleted it , so for that problem to dissapear i suggest you to unistall it and install it again. as for the the duplicated error I'm working on it rght now

    After I made this thread, I uninstalled the product. Then I noticed the update, so I reinstalled it. Made the post above. Then uninstalled it again. Reinstalled it just now, and I still have the blink error.

    Is this happening with anyone else or just me?

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 107,940

    Write Idea said:

    PFA said:

    This shows that you still have those 2 files. with the updated i have delleted it , so for that problem to dissapear i suggest you to unistall it and install it again. as for the the duplicated error I'm working on it rght now

    After I made this thread, I uninstalled the product. Then I noticed the update, so I reinstalled it. Made the post above. Then uninstalled it again. Reinstalled it just now, and I still have the blink error.

    Is this happening with anyone else or just me?

    Reinstaling the same files won't help, only if there is a new set of product files. If there is supposed to be an update and nothing chnages then, if you are installing manually or through DIM make sure that you don't also have a Daz Connect install (right-click on the product container - if there is an Uninstall option, use it) and however you are installing make sure there isn't an earlier version also installed in a content diectory that DS reads before the oen with the update (you can look for the files, or just use Content Directory manager to promote the one you install to to the top of the list if it isn't there already).

  • memcneil70memcneil70 Posts: 5,284

    The file's Read Me does not reflect an update reason. I keep getting a copy to install in updates, but I have uninstalled it also because of the duplicate formula error noticed above with a recent character. Not tried to have a character blink, so can't confirm. 

  • butterflyfishbutterflyfish Posts: 1,482

    I have both the duplicate formulas error and the blink problem. The eyes close incompletely when the character is blinking at 100% with The Age installed. They're fine with it uninstalled.

  • Lee MoonLee Moon Posts: 926
    edited June 21

    PFA said:

    Lee Moon said:

    PFA said:

    Hi guys please do let me know if there are any more issues the product is live again

    Reinstalled The Age after deleting it earlier this week. Package date shows 6-13-2025. Same duplicate formulas error. Uninstalled The Age again. No more duplicate forumulas error.  Still not fixed.  This started after the recent update that showed up in DIM.

    Lee 

    ok so you are not having the blinking problem right? , but you are still getting the duplicated formulas error right? 

    I am getting both the duplicate formulas and the blinking eye problem with the currently available install (via DIM).

    Thanks for looking into the problem and hope you find a solution soon.

    Lee

     

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  • Write IdeaWrite Idea Posts: 433

    Richard Haseltine said:

    Reinstaling the same files won't help, only if there is a new set of product files. If there is supposed to be an update and nothing chnages then, if you are installing manually or through DIM make sure that you don't also have a Daz Connect install (right-click on the product container - if there is an Uninstall option, use it) and however you are installing make sure there isn't an earlier version also installed in a content diectory that DS reads before the oen with the update (you can look for the files, or just use Content Directory manager to promote the one you install to to the top of the list if it isn't there already).

    I think you misunderstood, Richard. I installed the updated files and got the same error as before. Several people have also explained they are getting the same errors.

    Anyway, good luck with the problem solving, PFA!

  • vwranglervwrangler Posts: 4,971

    I went into the data directory and manually deleted the directory for The Age before reinstalling. I also get the duplicate formulas warning after reinstalling. I then deleted The Age's data directory again, and the duplicate formulas error disappeared. From the log file.


    2025-06-23 00:10:40.597 [WARNING] :: \src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(887): Duplicate formula found:
    Previous:
        File: G:/DAZ 3D/Studio3/content/data/Daz 3D/Genesis 9/Base/Morphs/PedroFurtadoArts/The Age/PFA The Age - Elderly Head.dsf
        Owner: Genesis9
        Input URI: Genesis9:/data/Daz%203D/Genesis%209/Base/Morphs/PedroFurtadoArts/The%20Age/PFA%20The%20Age%20-%20Elderly%20Head.dsf#PFA%20The%20Age%20-%20Elderly%20Head?value
        Input: PFA The Age - Elderly Head
        Output URI: Genesis9:/data/Daz%203D/Genesis%209/Base/Morphs/PedroFurtadoArts/The%20Age/PFA%20The%20Age%20-%20Mature%20Head.dsf#PFA%20The%20Age%20-%20Mature%20Head?value
        Output: PFA The Age - Mature Head
    Duplicate:
        File: G:/DAZ 3D/Studio3/content/data/Daz 3D/Genesis 9/Base/Morphs/PedroFurtadoArts/The Age/PFA The Age - Elderly Head.dsf
        Owner: Genesis9
        Input URI: Genesis9:/data/Daz%203D/Genesis%209/Base/Morphs/PedroFurtadoArts/The%20Age/PFA%20The%20Age%20-%20Elderly%20Head.dsf#PFA%20The%20Age%20-%20Elderly%20Head?value
        Input: PFA The Age - Elderly Head
        Output URI: Genesis9:/data/Daz%203D/Genesis%209/Base/Morphs/PedroFurtadoArts/The%20Age/PFA%20The%20Age%20-%20Mature%20Head.dsf#PFA%20The%20Age%20-%20Mature%20Head?value
        Output: PFA The Age - Mature Head
    2025-06-23 00:10:41.729 [INFO] :: Finished resolving formulas.

     

  • xyer0xyer0 Posts: 6,326

    Has this been fixed yet? It's a required product for a new release.

  • memcneil70memcneil70 Posts: 5,284

    No. My uninstalled copy is still dated 13 Jun 2025 which had the error.

  • xyer0xyer0 Posts: 6,326

    @memcneil70 Thanks, Ms. Mary!

  • Watching this thread for updates. I had temporarily uninstalled the product to avoid the duplicate errors, but will reinstall once that is resolved.

  • memcneil70memcneil70 Posts: 5,284

    @xyer0 I have an updated 'update' for The Age for Genesis 9 in DIM today, dated 18 July 2025. I haven't installed it yet.

    Mary

  • Write IdeaWrite Idea Posts: 433

    memcneil70 said:

    @xyer0 I have an updated 'update' for The Age for Genesis 9 in DIM today, dated 18 July 2025. I haven't installed it yet.

    Mary

    I can confirm that I'm not getting duplicate errors and/or a problem with the blink morphs activating.

    Good job fixing it!

  • xyer0xyer0 Posts: 6,326

    memcneil70 said:

    @xyer0 I have an updated 'update' for The Age for Genesis 9 in DIM today, dated 18 July 2025. I haven't installed it yet.

    Mary

    @memcneil70 Thank you, my dear lady! 

  • nannerfkmnannerfkm Posts: 68

    I'm good as well, apparently. Thanks so much!  I use The Aged a lot :-)

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