Iray (etc.) hair that works well in Filament

JalnorJalnor Posts: 13
edited April 4 in Product Suggestions

I've been experimenting with Filament and using the wonderful FilaToon Converter tool by V3Digitimes to convert objects and scenes to filament and I've noticed that, for these purposes, not all objects are created equal. Some hair objects especially turn into an absolute mess when converted, usually because they have a "skullcap" and are very very strandy, resulting in the hair becoming a black Afro and/or having a black scalp. There's no discernible pattern to which ones will work, though - there are ancient and recent hair models that convert nicely and ones that convert terribly.

Top ones to avoid seem to include Andrew Flip Hair for Gen2 male (just becomes a black Afro if you size up the outline for a wider angle shot) and Ashley hair for Gen3 female (somehow unable to host an outline) and the Hair Set for Gen8 males, which universally becomes just blackness because of the closely packed strands. Lani hair for Gen3 female also seems to be mad after conversion, although its textures convert nicely if you turn off outlines.

In the middle ground, DeRoca hair for Victoria 4 etc. is a Poser asset, which probably explains why its outlines take on the texture you assign the hair and become opaque so correcting the outline material just turns the whole thing black. However, if you're careful to have your texturing done before you apply the outline, it looks gorgeous. Similarly, Carla hair for Gen8 female accepts outlines and doesn't go weird if re-textured, but has only basic edge-of-the-model outlines rather than any sort of detailing, so you'd need to apply detailing by means of custom textures. Charm Hair and Dream Hair for Gen2 female (very similar models) are the same, but also have very very pale highlights round the edges that may or may not work with your aesthetic. Armani Hair from Gen8 Starter Essentials accepts textures fine, but outlines are hit or miss depending on your angle of view - some angles make it look like Sonic the Hedgehog while others have basically no outline - and the Toulouse hair is similar. (The earlier versions are similarly dodgy on outlines but otherwise seem fine) The dForce Starter Essentials dForce Mohawk Hair accepts outlines, but they appear as grey (and make it really hard to see in viewport as they obscure the strands and are the same colour as the background) and render exclusively as the base colour selected in their Surfaces parameter - with random grey areas where the outlines just obscure the hair. Filippa Hair for Gen2 female inherits strange outlines and has the Charm/Dream weird highlights, but accepts new textures fine and looks alright as long as the outlines are small.

On the other hand, the Hall of Fame for hair that accepts outlines wonderfully, translates textures in a pleasing format and accepts new textures without incident post conversion:

  • Bonnie Hair for Gen8 female
  • Eirgrid Hair for Gen9
  • Elegance Hair for Gen2 female (surprisingly similar to Charm and Dream, but the outlines work fine and the highlights aren't too high)

There are bound to be many more, I'm curious to know other people's experiences with this and which products you'd recommend for use in Filament renders.

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  • TesseractSpaceTesseractSpace Posts: 1,582

    You may want to look at some other conversion tools as well. 3Diva's Easy Filatoon and Oso3d's Filatoon kit have conversion tools for hair that can make some hair sets look better. (Oso's has a method for converting strand based Dforce hair where Easy Filatoon has a method and options for transmapped hairs.) 

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