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Digital Art supporting Digital Music

Tako YakidaTako Yakida Posts: 548
edited February 2016 in The Commons

It's my own invention! Well, not really. But today I uploaded a 3D render of my mascot Samedi along with my first ever created digital music to Youtube. I plan on doing actual detailed slide shows in the future. This is more of a test run than anything. If you're curious, I used Windows Movie Maker which took under a minute to put it together (the song itself was made in FL Studio, which is awesome and has great tutorials). It's past my bedtime otherwise I would have done a longer song and a real slideshow. Just an idea for anyone who wants more exposure of their work. Also since it's my first song ever I disabled comments. Once I get better at making songs I'll enable the comments and see what happens. By the way, if you try to sign onto your google account through Movie Maker and it's not working, you have to go to your google account settings from your web browser and enable "less-secure" devices being able to connect with your google account. If you don't do this, Movie Maker will tell you your password is not working and then you'll get an email from Gmail saying the attempt to access was blocked.

So much for my quickie youtube tutorial. Here's my song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xxN8-gZvEw

Hope it inspires some of you. 

Cheers.

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  • KindredArtsKindredArts Posts: 1,335

    Good work tako. I've done mood scores in ableton before for indie games (before the actual music people do it properly). The biggest bummer was mixing down and eq work - makes it all a bit dull. Anyway, good luck with your musical endeavours bud.

  • Midnight_storiesMidnight_stories Posts: 4,112
    edited February 2016

    Yes it's fun stuff I use Magix Music Maker 2015 Premium to do my stuff.

    The funny thing is U-tube hit me with a copyright violation, but I told them I made it myself and it was all good.

    There are some nasty people who try and copyright your own music, so be weary.

     

     

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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,457

    I subbed
    I am not DAW savvy I am afraid.

    I make music more Old School, play (with my fat fingers) my Roland synthesizer and various VSTi plugins made into virtual  instruments using Savihost and record the lot using Audacity like a multitrack recorder, I find the piano roll thing too difficult and all the free DAWs like Darkwave, CM, LMMS leave me baffled, I cannot play a note using them.

  • Midnight_storiesMidnight_stories Posts: 4,112
    fool said:

    I subbed
    I am not DAW savvy I am afraid.

    I make music more Old School, play (with my fat fingers) my Roland synthesizer and various VSTi plugins made into virtual  instruments using Savihost and record the lot using Audacity like a multitrack recorder, I find the piano roll thing too difficult and all the free DAWs like Darkwave, CM, LMMS leave me baffled, I cannot play a note using them.

    Then you have real talent then, I'm just a drop and drag person !

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,457

    hah but I play wrong notes and out of time blush

  • Tako YakidaTako Yakida Posts: 548
    edited February 2016

    @KindredArts,

    Thanks man. I assume a mood score is music to set the mood?
    I'm just learning about the different kinds of software and heard about something called a compressor which adjust all the levels to be more even and not too loud. I wonder if that's the same thing as equalization. So much to learn!

    @Midnight_stories,

    I am not surprised about the copyright moochers. Personally I would only youtube one or two songs just to promote and keep the rest for itunes etc once I get up to that level. :)

    You're girl is nice and shiny and the rythym of the beat is nicely consisent. I'm working on that aspect of things myself. I get the idea a real good beat draws the listener along with no jarring hiccups.

    @fool

    That's really cool that you use a real synthesizer. I played guitar when I was young but due to lots of sports injuries I cramp up for about a week after playing so I gave it up sadly.

    I think DAW's could be considered as subbing for actual keyboards subbing for actual numberous sound sources if we want to get metaphyiscal about it. If it works, work it. :P

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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,457

    we really need a music thread as making videos using DAZ content you need music too and it is not always easy to come by royalty free.

    Youtube is indeed a minefield of matched content.
    I just grabbed Magix Independence free and love all the cool instrument samples I can play on it with my midi keyboard

    was wondering short of buying Magic music maker which is probably the intention, the best way to record my performance, stereomix in Audacity gives too much feedback and as not a VSTi as such cannot record using Savihost or get LMMS to see it.

  • SpitSpit Posts: 2,342

    Are there any true software synths where you can make your own sounds using waveforms and the envelope and attach to entered notes? It seems everything these days uses 'pre-recorded' instrument sounds which is really limiting for what I used to do.

     

  • Tako YakidaTako Yakida Posts: 548
    edited March 2016

    @fool: I'd recommend the producer edition of FL Studio which allows direct recording (though I haven't played with that yet, I do like all the filters it comes with which includes things for reducing feedback). I'm still new to the field so don't have any other programs I am really aware of yet. But as far as not being DAW savvy, if you take it piece by piece and really take the time to learn each window, it gets easy. I was overwhelmed when I first opened up the software, but now that I've created a glossary to keep track of all the new terminology, its becoming much smoother. The tutorials that Image-Line makes (the basic ones) are really helpful. I just pause it when they throw out a random term that doesn't make sense, go find out what it is, then write it down in my glossary and continue. That way confusion doesn't build up.

    @Spit: The software I use is FL Studio which I recommend but the basic version (which is only $99 vs $199 for the producer edition) doesn't provide audio recording itself but you can get around that and record in audacity, then transfer the saved wave into FL studio to use as a sampled sound and arrange it in the notes entered. I found a simple tutorial on how to import the sounds: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmg7-Ghz5mI but it doesn't mention how to make that into playable notes. To do that, you'd open another window called the piano roll and arrange your notes there with that channel you just imported. Then there's a mixer for adding any effects you want to that channel.

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  • SpitSpit Posts: 2,342
    edited March 2016
    Tako Yakida said:

    @fool: I'd recommend the producer edition of FL Studio which allows direct recording (though I haven't played with that yet, I do like all the filters it comes with which includes things for reducing feedback). I'm still new to the field so don't have any other programs I am really aware of yet. But as far as not being DAW savvy, if you take it piece by piece and really take the time to learn each window, it gets easy. I was overwhelmed when I first opened up the software, but now that I've created a glossary to keep track of all the new terminology, its becoming much smoother. The tutorials that Image-Line makes (the basic ones) are really helpful. I just pause it when they throw out a random term that doesn't make sense, go find out what it is, then write it down in my glossary and continue. That way confusion doesn't build up.

    @Spit: The software I use is FL Studio which I recommend but the basic version (which is only $99 vs $199 for the producer edition) doesn't provide audio recording itself but you can get around that and record in audacity, then transfer the saved wave into FL studio to use as a sampled sound and arrange it in the notes entered. I found a simple tutorial on how to import the sounds: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmg7-Ghz5mI but it doesn't mention how to make that into playable notes. To do that, you'd open another window called the piano roll and arrange your notes there with that channel you just imported. Then there's a mixer for adding any effects you want to that channel.

    Thanks for responding. But I'm confused. Not having done anything on the PC beyond entering notes in Mozart, saving as a midi file, and using the wavetable on my soundcard for playback (and it was a long time ago) I'm totally unfamiliar with how things are being done today and what software....

    Does audacity just record any output from another program (such as FL Studio) and does FL Studio let you create your own sounds?

    I'm really looking for a program that does NOT use pre-recorded sounds but allows you to define them as you are entering notes. And then when you're finished doing the sounds and entering the notes you can play it and record it. In a sense like the old MOOG synthesizer.

     

    Additional: Does producer edition of FL Studio do the recording itself?

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  • SpitSpit Posts: 2,342

    I went to FL Studio site then on to wikipedia. Wow tons of synth capabilities. Impressive.

    Now for entering notes? I have tons and tons of sheet music--99% of it classical which is what I really want to work with. From symphonies to violin solos, and chamber music up the wazoo. I much prefer using the pc keyboard to enter note by note rather than any input from a midi keyboard. One little Bach piece might be close to 4000 notes. Most are much more. I noticed one of the included synths is for stringed instruments (the envelope is constantly changing with strings) and i would have to record possibly dozenss of samples for strings alone to get the variety I'd need. Then be able to easily see which notes I'm working with and assign different samples as needed. I'm just not sure this would work.

     

     

  • aspinaspin Posts: 219

    Now you found a fantastic way to spend all the money you didnt spend on DAZ.

    Look at Spitfire Albion, Eastwest Hollywood Strings, Projectsam Symphobia, 8dio Majestica and so on... all prerecorded string libraries. Single instruments or complete sections.

  • SpitSpit Posts: 2,342
    aspin said:

    Now you found a fantastic way to spend all the money you didnt spend on DAZ.

    Look at Spitfire Albion, Eastwest Hollywood Strings, Projectsam Symphobia, 8dio Majestica and so on... all prerecorded string libraries. Single instruments or complete sections.

    laugh Will do. However with FL Studio there's the Piano Roll and that is not the way I want notes entered. Then I saw cubase. Oh dear. $699. I'm writing all this down. My PC doesn't even have speakers, only headphones, but it's over 4 years old now. So that will have to come first. Had no idea how expensive this could be.

  • Tako YakidaTako Yakida Posts: 548

    There is a record mode in producer edition. If you don't like piano roll I do remember some of the synthesizers had keyboard type setups.... I haven't had much time to play with FL Studio lately but the Image-line forum would probably be best for that question.http://forum.image-line.com/ I do remember one tutorial where a guy clicked some record setting to play a pattern right into the song instead of using the piano roll. I need to study it some more myself.

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,457

    I can play using my midi keyboard into LMMS it does a metronome click track for me to keep time even, am still getting the hang of it but is quite doable.

    the VSTi synths have knobs and sliders like my real Roland synthesiser and work much the same way, my pitch bend etc works on them too live.

  • SpitSpit Posts: 2,342

    Thanks for the info but it would be a laughing matter for me to play a Chopin fantasy on the keyboard and record it 'live' into software. laugh   I can read music and play the piano but not good enough to try playing a Brandenburg Concerto and re-arrange on the fly.

    I checked into Mozart again. I had it years ago and turns out it was more years ago than I thought. The last version was for Win3.1/95 in 2000. indecision.

  • riftwitchriftwitch Posts: 1,439
    Spit said:
    aspin said:

    Now you found a fantastic way to spend all the money you didnt spend on DAZ.

    Look at Spitfire Albion, Eastwest Hollywood Strings, Projectsam Symphobia, 8dio Majestica and so on... all prerecorded string libraries. Single instruments or complete sections.

    laugh Will do. However with FL Studio there's the Piano Roll and that is not the way I want notes entered. Then I saw cubase. Oh dear. $699. I'm writing all this down. My PC doesn't even have speakers, only headphones, but it's over 4 years old now. So that will have to come first. Had no idea how expensive this could be.

    If cost is an issue, take a look at Reaper (http://reaper.fm). If you earn less than $20,000 per year from music, the license fee is only $60.00. It's probably the most i expensive full-featured DAW out there. The demo doesn't have any functional limitations, just a nag screen on startup. Youc can record midi from your keyboard and edit it if your performance isn't perfect. It will handle whatever virtual instruments and effects you care to use, as well as record audio. I use a different DAW, but a lot of people like Reaper.

  • riftwitchriftwitch Posts: 1,439
    Spit said:

    Are there any true software synths where you can make your own sounds using waveforms and the envelope and attach to entered notes? It seems everything these days uses 'pre-recorded' instrument sounds which is really limiting for what I used to do.

     

    Yes, there are LOTS of synths out there that are highly programmable. Some use samples, some use dsp oscillators. Drop by kvraudio.com; there's lots of info on synths, and pretty good getting started sectio  in the forums. I can also make some suggestions if you want some recommendations for synths.

  • SpitSpit Posts: 2,342

    New info! Thanks. I've found myself in the middle of a few things right now but will continue my research in a couple of days!

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