Yet another computer advice
joanna
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Hi everyone! I'm looking to upgrade my PC. Mostly for Daz and similar purposes (graphics, 3d modelling in Blender, possibly animation).
This is what I put together with the knowledge I have and roughly within my budget (would rather go down than up), but I'm wondering if I'm missing something or there are some better options for things, so please share your thoughts/suggestions.
AMD Ryzen 9 7900X 4.70 Ghz 12-Core
MSI PRO X870-P WIFI - ATX
2x16 GB Memory, DDR5-5600
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 Ti 16 GB GDDR6
Cooling: CLX Quench 240 AIO
750 Watt GAMDIAS Kratos M1
MSI Wireless AX210 WIFI 6 PCIe adapter.
Edited to add: I'm upgrading from RTX 2060, and I do have extra 2x16gb cards I can cannibalize from my current built.
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I personally suggest you consider doubling the RAM size, i.e. 2 x 32 GB, and a PSU with 850W ~ 1000W, just in case ...
Thanks. I do have another set of 2x16 GB I can put in, so I'm only buying one 2x16, especially that as I said, my budget is rather maxed out than has wriggle room. Do you think it would be enough for "now"? I can consider upgrading later.
As for PSU, I thought 750W would be enough. I guess I have to reconsider. Sigh... More expenses.
Ah... if so, there'll be fine and enough as long as you don't play with "huge scene". :D
Well, if you have no intention to mount 2060 back as well to have duo card, it's good to go ~~
Maybe upgrade the CPU to use an RDNA 3.0 spec integrated GPU if you have interest in dabbling with AI or Blender. e.g. AMD Ryzen 5 7600 or AMD Ryzen 9 7940HS. I'd tell you to wait for the CPUs with integrated RDNA 4.0 GPUs but that make take some months.
Lol. There's always temptation to go bigger xD But I think I'll be fine for a while then, and maybe upgrade later. This is going to be a huge chunk I'd rather not spend to begin with, but would rather upgrade now given the state of the world and Windows 10 going away.
Huh, I haven't even thought about it. Do you mind sharing (or point me in the direction where I can learn) benefits of mounting the old card as well?
Either way, thank you for your insights, I appreciate it!
No interest in AI at all, but Blender is within the potential scope. I have no knowledge of RDNAs, though, so I don't even know how they affect the performance, and how important they are (I'm at the end on my budget, so I'd prefer any "upgrades" to be significant jumps than just slightly better). Do you have any more insights or can point me in the right direction?
If your current PC has DDR5 ram then it's pretty new and I'd just slap a 4060ti in it. If it has DDR4 ram then it won't fit in the new PC.
I wouldn't count on being able to use all 4 ram slots reliably. If you want more than 32gb get a 2 x 32gb kit at the beginning,
You've got a wifi card listed even though the motherboard has wifi built in?
My current PC is 5 years old and still kicking, but it's not compatible with Win 11. With Win 10 support ending in half a year, and with new RTX 5000 series not being compatible with Daz (while 4000s are slowly disappearing from the market), it seems like the best time to upgrade.
Thanks. I didn't know that. It's good to know, and definitely worth upgrading.
Mostly, because in general, I'm clueless when it comes to deep hardware knowledge :D . I noticed the WiFi being built in the motherboard, but my current PC needs the little adapter thingie, so my brain mushed the two together.
Thanks so much for your comment, too! You got me thinking about stuff I didn't know I should think about.
Any render fitting in it's memory should be able take advantage of it, making it a bit faster.
If your computer doesn't have any other secondary GPU, I think you can save a bit of memory by letting the older card in charge of the screen, freeing a bit of VRAM on the main GPU.
What's your current built ? If the rest is still competent, maybe you could also keep it and spend more for a faster GPU. I don't know what's available anymore, but off the top of my head, a 4070 Ti 16 GB is around twice as fast as a 4060 Ti.
Edit: I just saw your last message, too bad your computer will not support Windows 11.
That's good to know! I don't think it'll be an issue. On my current 2060 (6GB), I can do stuff in the background while rendering (which included playing non-resource-heavy video game at times ;) ), and my most challenging renders seem to be ok around 8 hours mark. Most complex ones finish around 4h, so expect that the jump from it to the 4060 Ti will be like switching from a bicycle to a sports car.
Yeah, I wish I could stay on my current PC, and just slap a new GPU and maybe extra internal drive onto it, but Windows aside, I think I'd need new power source too, and new RAM as I'm at 8gb + 2x16g currently. My old laptop died in the middle of pandemic (May 2020), the worst possible time, so I pretty much got one off the shelf just to get one at all (and still waited 3 weeks for a new one), and when I looked at all that I might need to end up getting plus compatibility issues, then new PC made more sense.
As a side general note, I'm glad I created this thread. I've learned new things from you all. Thank you all for giving your time to explain things to me!
RDNA is just the AMD version of the nVidia RTX features. It can be helpful in Blender to split really huge loads, and the same for AI, even if you aren't interested we have no control if AI is directly integrated into future OS or graphics capabilities on your PC.