Baroque Trio set, s/w to make baroque music clip?

MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

was excited to buy this http://www.daz3d.com/baroque-trio  perfect to entertain the emperor's dinner party.

  • Viola da Gamba 
  • Theorbo 
  • Baroque Flute 

but now i'm stuck, no idea how to make sound clip for it.

does anyone know if theres a music software with those instrument voices?

is there something like, i guess, make like a melody template and then could switch instrument voices?

thanks smiley

 

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  • mjc1016mjc1016 Posts: 15,001

    Yes, samples for them exist...not the easiest things to find, but they are out there (several sample collections on CD and such), not found any free ones, though

    Most software synthesizers would be up to the task...

    Fluidsynth would be my choice, but it is command line and has no GUI (there are many GUI wrappers for it, though, but I'm not sure what there is for Windows or Macs).

    http://www.fluidsynth.org

    Here's a list of some frontends/programs that incorporate it...

    http://sourceforge.net/p/fluidsynth/wiki/Applications/

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    thanks. smiley

    hoping i can hum a tune and the s/w could turn it into digital music sheets?

    was just reading film specs at da, says  Stereo audio at 128 bit AAC or higher 44.1 khz

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 40,591

    ..If you also have Ness' Harpsichord you could have a quartet.

    http://www.daz3d.com/harpsichord

    The harpsichord also has articulated keys.

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    kyoto kid said:

    ..If you also have Ness' Harpsichord you could have a quartet.

    http://www.daz3d.com/harpsichord

    The harpsichord also has articulated keys.

    yup, haz that one. and the other fancy organ http://www.daz3d.com/timeskeep-organ

    and merlin's celtic harp.

    ... need s/w voices for those too

    would love to have content something like capt nemo's submarine organ

  • mjc1016mjc1016 Posts: 15,001
    kyoto kid said:

    ..If you also have Ness' Harpsichord you could have a quartet.

    http://www.daz3d.com/harpsichord

    The harpsichord also has articulated keys.

     

    And  you should be able to animate the keys with midi control.

  • Ken OBanionKen OBanion Posts: 1,447

    I'm not plugging it or anything, but you might take a look at Acid Pro, by Sony.  It's not too terribly expensive, and it comes with a veritable crap-load of instrument voices.  (Full disclosure: I do have it, and occasionally use it.  Not much, but just enough to prove to the world periodically that, well, I'm no Beethoven.)

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    thanks.  sony acid a daw?

    so far, i've learned need a daw to play a vst.

    was lookin for samples of what antique instruments sound like

    found   
    English harpsichord Kirckman 1790
    so this is what they were grooving to smiley

  • j cadej cade Posts: 2,310
    edited February 2016

    Unless it specifies, its unlikely to include viola di gamba or theorbo (honestly nothings likely to include a theorbo, as it was always a novelty instrument, but there should be something out there that includes a lute, which is pretty close)

     

    Also shoutout to musescore, Although thats more if you can read music well.

     

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  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 40,591
    edited February 2016

    ...there's also a very nice traditional pipe organ that comes with this:

    http://www.daz3d.com/magnus-manor

    The organ can be used as a separate standalone prop.

    Here's what a baroque period organ sounds like:

    1. Germanic/Dutch

    2. French.

     

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  • mjc1016mjc1016 Posts: 15,001

    Here's some harpsicord samples (and a few other things)...

    http://sonimusicae.free.fr/accueil-en.html

    Not exactly cheap...

    http://www.bestservice.de/en/era_ii_medieval_legends.html

  • nothing free I could sample I am afraid or could make you a tune

  • j cadej cade Posts: 2,310

    OMG it has a sackbut! And Crumhorn.

     

    I do have about 72 hours of early music on my computer.

     

    I almost object to that being referred to as medieval music as a lot of that stuff is much more renaissance, but there are worse things (like pre 18th century films with super piano-y soundtracks)

     

    I love the sackbut it sounds exactly how the name suggests

  • j cadej cade Posts: 2,310

    Also side note, but while they are a trio of baroque instruments, they are not three instruments that would be heard together in a baroque trio :)

     

    Also baroque trios could have anywhere from one to four instruments, because baroque composers were fun like that.

  • mjc1016mjc1016 Posts: 15,001

    There a viola da Gamba here...

    the samples are .wav format.

    http://bigcatinstruments.blogspot.com/2014/08/sasjes-instruments.html

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 37,867
    edited February 2016

    rename extension mp3, a silly 3 blind mice based tune using the sample

    txt
    txt
    Viola da Gamba.txt
    391K
    Post edited by WendyLuvsCatz on
  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 40,591
    edited February 2016
    j cade said:

    Also side note, but while they are a trio of baroque instruments, they are not three instruments that would be heard together in a baroque trio :)

     

    Also baroque trios could have anywhere from one to four instruments, because baroque composers were fun like that.

    ...the harpsichord was often the "fourth member" of a trio as it provided the "basso continuo" for the ensemble filling in with chords using a tablature known as "Figured Bass". (kind of the baroque version of a "fake sheet")

    There are also "trio sonatas" that are played by a single performer (organ).

    Baroque chamber ensembles traditionally employed a combination of the following: violin, viola, recorder (soprano to bass), viol de gamba, lute, hautbois (oboe), and natural trumpet (no valves).  Older instruments like the crumhorn had fallen out of favour by then, although an imitative stop on the organs of the day was still common (particularly in French organs).

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  • mjc1016mjc1016 Posts: 15,001

    I should set up a machine to do music...I've got a ton of samples, collected over the years and software for it...but never really decided to set up a computer for it.

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    fool said:

    rename extension mp3, a silly 3 blind mice based tune using the sample

     

    it's elegant sounding 3 blind mice smiley

  • aspinaspin Posts: 219
    mjc1016 said:

    One of the best medieval libraries on the market. I have it and I love it. I use it with Cubase as my DAW.

    Every year after christmas they do a BOGO sale, so you get it half off, if you are interested in other VSTs.

  • mjc1016mjc1016 Posts: 15,001
    edited February 2016
    aspin said:
    mjc1016 said:

    One of the best medieval libraries on the market. I have it and I love it. I use it with Cubase as my DAW.

    Every year after christmas they do a BOGO sale, so you get it half off, if you are interested in other VSTs.

    If I were still working in the 'industry' I'd probably have it.  I don't do enough to justify it, but yeah it looks like it is the go to set.  All the reviews I've seen and some of the demos I've tracked down (for some reason the video just doesn't want to stream for me) say the same thing...it's great.

    Another nice set seems to be

    http://www.bestservice.de/en/the_conservatoire_collection.html

     

    Post edited by mjc1016 on
  • riftwitchriftwitch Posts: 1,404
    MistyMist said:

    thanks.  sony acid a daw?

    so far, i've learned need a daw to play a vst.

    was lookin for samples of what antique instruments sound like

    found   
    English harpsichord Kirckman 1790
    so this is what they were grooving to smiley

    ACID is a daw, but I've never gotten it to see any of my VST instruments or effects. Reaper is a good choice if you're on a budget, but I've never gotten on well with it. I use Sonar, but it isn't cheap. I think there are some pitch to midi plugin out there, but I'm not sure of any product names. You may want to check the forums and product announcements at kvraudio; I'm sure you can find something of use.
  • You can also use Savihost for your VSTi instruments

    I found the record and playback functions now  work on my new Mobo after much fiddling with engine and other settings but otherwise set your sound card input device to stereomix and use audacity to record.

  • mjc1016mjc1016 Posts: 15,001
    edited February 2016

    In Linux there are many options...almost too many.

     

    Post edited by mjc1016 on
  • If you have an iPad, you may want to take a look at IK-Multimedia's  SampleTank. You can do a crazy amount of music on more recent iPads usually much cheaper than desktop app/VST prices. I usually use Cubasis as a DAW, but I think SampleTank has it's own recording capabilites as an IAP. It also comes with short little riffs for the different typs of instruments.

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    da daw  >.<  oscar mike gulf

    this is sony acid 9.0

     

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  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    think i understand the buses now
    i see how to drag a wav file to a track. in sony acid music

    think i understand the mixing board buses now.
    :)

    my first misunderstanding,
    i thought,
    loops were like a rhythm i would add to the track, 
    and the VST would be the instrument i would assign to play the rhythm?

    but, that's totally wrong?

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    mjc1016 said:

    There a viola da Gamba here...

    the samples are .wav format.

    http://bigcatinstruments.blogspot.com/2014/08/sasjes-instruments.html

     

    and it lists a tambourine   joyheartjoyheartjoy

    wanted tambourine to go with this outfit

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    mjc1016 said:
    aspin said:
    mjc1016 said:

    One of the best medieval libraries on the market. I have it and I love it. I use it with Cubase as my DAW.

    Every year after christmas they do a BOGO sale, so you get it half off, if you are interested in other VSTs.

    If I were still working in the 'industry' I'd probably have it.  I don't do enough to justify it, but yeah it looks like it is the go to set.  All the reviews I've seen and some of the demos I've tracked down (for some reason the video just doesn't want to stream for me) say the same thing...it's great.

    Another nice set seems to be

    http://www.bestservice.de/en/the_conservatoire_collection.html

     

     

    listening to the hearing samples  wowwwww

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    this makes sense? right?

    vsti >.<

    There are two types of VSTs:

    A VST instrument, and a VST effect.

    A VSTi is a software synth. It has sounds it produces, just like a hardware synth does.

    A MIDI track in ACID has MIDI data - note on and off, along with many control data to manipulate the data.

    In ACID, you add a VSTi and then create a MIDI track that sends its data to it to trigger the note data output by the VSTi.

    The simplest way to experiment is to add a new MIDI track, and place ACID in to edit mode.

    By default, ACID will add the built in DLS soft synth, which is like a VSTi.

    You can then paint/draw notes into an event on the MIDI track. As you do this, the soft synth will play the data.

    You can also load (import) a Standard MIDI file onto a track(s) in ACID and it will play through the built in DLS softsynth. You can at any time add a new VSTi and send a tracks' MIDI data to this new VSTi.

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