Windows 10 auto upgrade.
Teofa
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I hope this is DAZ Related, as we all use OS to play with this hobby. According to numerous articles today, depending on your Windows Update settings, you could possibly get an unwanted upgrade to Windows 10 automatically.
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...yeah read this on ZDNet yesterday. Still on 7 with updating set to manual.. Keeping an eye on Windows Update and so far, no 3+ GB file yet.
Uninstall kb3035583 and hide it. Do that as soon as you start getting the update; if you leave it then it can progress and its slightly more complicated to get rid of the little nag popup.
As MS had stopped supporting 8, I upgraded to 8.1 and that was one of the first things I did.
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I have Automatic Updates switched off, but if you don't, check this page. It lists the updates to uninstall/hide.
http://lifehacker.com/how-to-block-windows-10-upgrade-downloads-if-youre-not-1730024570
I did a lot of blocking and hiding a while back and it seems to have stopped MS from trying to upgrade. But now that I don't have evidence I've upgraded does that mean they'll start bugging me again? Urk.
Win 10 is possbly the most miserable OS experience I've had to date.
Hear, hear! Even though I have had no critical issues after installing it clean, I feel the interface a bit sluggish. I have a GTX 960 with 4 GBs.
I have my settings at check for updates but let me choose what to install. Still, im suspicious about whether or not ms will override that. If I select never check for updates will that protect my pc from the win10 update? I know its not as secure as disconnecting from the internet, but I do need it occasionally.
I've had it set to that for years, and they haven't so far; but they are getting increasingly desperate to get everyone on W10. :)
kb3035583 came BACK after I hid it once. Keep an eye open for that sneaky devil...
Of course you know once the Win 10 upgrade stops being free, there'll be a massive hue and cry from some of those that didn't get it.
Myself, I don't mind the upgrade nags. I just loathe the tactic of installing it behind users backs. I like hand approving my automatic updates just in case they aren't desirable for one reason or another. Or some gifted hacker with too much time on their hands somehow finds a way to inject malware into an update and infects everyone whose system autoloaded it. Unlikely to happen, but MS is a big shiny target for that crowd, and I recall an incident years ago where there was some kind of redirect or certificate problem with windows update that we got warnings about.
I agree. I absolutely hate it. Once I have Linux working with all of my Windows programs, it is gone. I'm chucking it completely.
Nearly happened to me a few months ago — if I hadn't noticed an "optional update" autoselected to install, it would have gone ahead and upgraded me. Deselecting the update didn't stick, eventually I hid it. That seems to have worked for now (fingers crossed) but whatever's driving the nag box keeps coming back no matter what I do.
Ok. I uninstalled those updates. Need to do the same for the win7 laptop. Also I found one of the updates to hide listed in both important and optional updates. Still set for manual downloads.
Withhold my comment on the practice but there is a lot of nuance involved to get you to participate. Learn more about "Dark Pattern" influences here: https://youtu.be/1KVyFio8gw4
I think I know why your still getting the stupid notification icon for win10. I just went through the removal procedure outlined in maclean's post. http://lifehacker.com/how-to-block-windows-10-upgrade-downloads-if-youre-not-1730024570 After completing it, I still had the notification as well. I believe that means that those updates, or at least one of them, is still on your computer. I got rid of it by going into the task manager and ending the process for GWX.exe which is that icon. I then went back over the steps for removal, uninstalling updates and hiding them (look in both important and optional updates) and that seems to have done the trick. Perhaps someone with some computer know how can confirm?
Dowload GWX control panel from Ultimite Outsider. It's a free utility that knocks out the Windows 10 update function.
I have Windows 10 on my laptop, I refuse to put it on my production machine. It's not bad, but I've had plenty of times my laptop took hours to boot because of updates - and you have no idea how long those are going to take when they start.
I work in a school district and create the images we use. I keep a very close eye on updates. Here's the list I have of ones related to Windows 10 that a manually look for:
KB3035583 <-- this is the worst bugger. This will put that annoying icon in the system tray and nag you to death. It will also initiate the 3Gb hidden background download of Windows 10 when/if you do decide to install it.
KB2952664, KB3021917, KB3112343, KB3123862. These ones are related to making the upgrade to Windows 10 'easier' and 'smoother'. I nuke them as well, along with anything else that comes down trying to ease you into Windows 10. You can hide them, but they keep coming back as Microsoft 'upgrades' the importance of them from optional to Recommended, and eventually Important. One day it may go to Critical, so keep an eye out.
The fact that's it's come down to having to manually check every available update on the Recommended list to filter out this Windows 10 stuff really kills my inner child. It almost makes me look forward to the day when I'll go Apple instead of being forced to use Windows 10. Apple isn't much better for data mining, but at least they aren't shoving their OS down your throat. That's just Orwellian.
...yeah, it returned like a bad penny on my system too..
KB2952664 also reappeared in both Optional and Important updates.
Hid all three instances.
Just another reason to never allow your art computer to go online. Ever. For any reason. Not even once, to authenticate 4.9.
I had updates turned off. OFF! on my Win7 internet box. It updated anyway and cleared my desktop back to virgin. The programs and data were still there, but the icons were gone.
..well I have to for content Installs and uploading images but that is it.
I download on a Win7 computer with some serious protection on it. (It was that one that updated without permission. Apparently the best malware won't protect me from Microsquiff. Go figure.) Once my downloads have passed through that, they're safe to transfer to my art PC.
Really wish they'd go back to allowing users to approve each update. Or have the option to choose certain kinds of updates that are allowed to be automatic and others that aren't. For example, I can see the value in having defender update its definitions automatically and regularly. Hardware drivers are a maybe case, I wouldn't want them updated without approval if only to have time to check that they aren't crashing other peoples systems before I ok them. Other updates I generally want to excersize manual control over even if just to read what is being updated and make sure I really want that to be on my system.
Make sure you have the pro version; home presumes everyone is an imbicilic child that doesn't so much need hand-holding, as spoon-feeding, hand-holding and then the drool wiping up.
It's not perfect, but is easier to control.
My new laptop has 10 home, which is kinda annoying; but not used it yet, it was cold so I'm letting it aclimatise to prevent the (low) risk of condensation causing a problem. So will be interesting to see how it goes.
Here is a news article that explains partly why the are being so pushy.
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/microsoft-wants-using-windows-10-not-215147430.html?nhp=1
...not an option for me as my only other system is XP32. I have a very beefy firewall on the Win 7 workstation.
Can't afford a "go between" system, crikey, I can't even afford the 7 Pro OEM I need so I can upgrade the workstation's memory.
...but Pro pretty much only allows you to defer "security" updates not "reject" them like you can with 7 and 8.1.
I know about the "tool" that is supposed to allow workgroup members to have a bit of control but that only works for "optional" updates, and will not prevent "recommended" security updates (which may have bugs or introduce other instabilities) from being auto installed. Also as I am the only user on my system, it seems a bit ridiculous to set up a "workgroup" (not even sure if I can do so without specifying permissions for other users).
...makes sense, and makes me not want 10 even more as I don't have a tablet, smartphone, Xbox, etc, so I don't need updates, apps, and features for those devices bloating the OS. even more than it already is. Also do not like the "incremental" updates after hearing the issues update #1511 caused for many users. which included bricking a particular model of notebook.
While it cost a bit more and takes more effort, I prefer the old school method of updating Windows versions.
You should check E-bay. I got Win7 Pro Upgrade for about $90 there.