Noir
WendyLuvsCatz
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Why is everything noir these days?
I am not sure I even know what that word means.
I think of a genera of films with dramatic dark themes but it is applied to makeup, shaders, sheets, dresses and as I would expect at least camera render styles.
If I had noir sheets I think I'd stick them in the washing machine.
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I suspect people are conidering noir the new black. Or maybe they just don't want to call something 'goth lite' if it doesn't havve tattoos and fangs.
Goth doesn't mean fangs, or at least didn't not so long ago. Tattoos were not de rigueur either.
Better than the post apocalyptic/mad max..
Noir was just basically cynical criminals in crime dramas. An attitude/mood, really. And then it was taken to mean the filming style, as well; the dark contrasts and shadows to get the cynical atmosphere of the film. This is what I have understood. I could be wrong.
noir is the french for black? or dark. nuit = night
film noir http://www.filmsite.org/filmnoir.html
That's pretty much right. It's the lighting AND the style. An exception that proves the rule is the 50s atomic horror movie Them! That is as noir as The Maltese Falcon.
Yeah, also, a lot of people think the black and white films are the ones that count as noir, but there were color films done in the same style. So the black and white isn't a defacto standard of noir, and according to Wikipedia color noir films after 1959 are called neo-noir. I googled "noir color" just to make sure that I was correct about the color noir films and learned the bit of the term neo-noir just then.
Chinatown comes to mind. And a quick googling confirms it is considered "neo nori", a term I first saw up there in your post nDelphi.
Thank god everything is going "Noir", I've been training a group of very talented raccoons and possums to perform in the first all raccoon and possum production of Howard Hawks 1946 adaptation of Raymond Chandler's novel "The Big Sleep" for the past three years and I was starting to think "Noir" was the new blackberry, or planking or something else that was cool but isn't anymore... But now I can go ahead with filming... Well, that's if Philip Marlowe would stop mauling and eating Vivian Rutledge's face... I know you are thinking "stop using rabid raccoons to play Bogart's character", but I'm trying to stay faithful to the lesser known part of the William Faulkner contribution to the screenplay... Being that the plot was so convoluted that even Chandler wasn't entirely clear on who did what or why, Faulkner decided to write his part from the perspective of a rabid raccoon, a bit of an experimental version of his "stream of consciousness" style of writing only with a rabid raccoon twist to it. I toyed with the idea of using dachshunds and chinchillas as Leigh Brackett had suggested in place of Bogart and Bacall (and coincidentally Carrie Fisher and Harrison Ford when she cowrote the screenplay for The Empire Strikes Back), but dachshunds don't have the dynamic range that rabid raccoons do and chinchillas just can't act at all... Granted they are very nice soft when you rub them on your face and they make great furniture polish applicators as long as you don't rub the same one on your face as your credenza... Whatever that is... That's a piece of furniture, right? Because if it's not, it sounds like a euphemism for a body part... Like "Aye, did you see the part where the donkey kicked that guy right in the credenzas"... In which case definitely don't mix up you chinchillas and definitely don't rub furniture polish on your credenzas... But besides all that dachshunds and chinchillas actually cost money and I can get all the raccoons and possums I want for free from the ShopRite parking lot near my house... It's not one of those free raccoon dispensers, it's just that some crazy or kind, or kinda crazy person is trying to feed the stray cats, only there are no more stray cats because the raccoons ate them all, yet the person who keeps feeding them has failed to notice that there are about 164 raccoons of varying levels of obesity in place of their beloved cats... It may well be possible they are trying to assemble an army of fat, surly raccoons for some nefarious purposes, but if that's their game, then good luck. Regardless of all that, I'm glad "Noir" is becoming a strong new fad, because this whole thing was a lot of work and I've almost blown through the whole kickstarter budget of $5.11 I got... The requested budget was $570,000... Mostly for the scene where the alien mothership crashes into General Sternwood's mansion and near the end where the cybernetically enhanced Marlow fights a giant octopus atop a burning skyscraper high above a digital recreation of Realito in 1946, but I just have to fireworks and refrigerator boxes for those scenes... And I suppose I could change the octopus to a squid, they are cheaper per pound... Anyway, I'm glad I saw this thread, because I was feeling all depressed and thinking I was going to have to let my staff go, and besides feeling bad about firing them, there is nothing more dangerous than a raccoon who has just lost his whole acting career.
Well, the criminals aren't really cynical..the heroes, detectives usually..they're cynical.
LOL...well, you don't want a rabid racoon after you, for sure!
Ah, you're right!
I like noir, if it's not bloody noir.
Some recommended viewing:
http://www.imdb.com/search/title?at=0&genres=film_noir&sort=user_rating&title_type=feature
I think "The Third Man" is one of the greatest movies ever made. I saw it in a theater not long ago. It had been digitally restored to HD resolution. I might take issue with how some of the frames were restored, but it still looked great on the big screen.
The last time I saw a noir film was D.O.A. (1950), not the remake of 1988. It was that or some modern noir which I tried to watch and it was just to agonizing. I don't even remember the title of that one. I made the right call.
For that matter, The Seven Seals is more "noir" than is The Thirty-Nine Steps. It's as much a tone of narrative that seals it as the points of style used.
Noir is (quebec) french for black
In pigments there is no such thing as black.
In light (RGB), its the complete absense of light
Most people don't know that the world is actually black and white and that it is our brain that gives it color.
Maybe Schwartz will be the next Noir
You mean Hot and spicy and tasty
May the Swartz be with you...
You could use furvus, but don't use the other latin word, it is verbotten in most polite circles.
It's the same in continental french (France), as well.