Yes! Yes! 'Wear Them All' for G3Male. Hats off to Valzheimer
HorusRa
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I was very suprised at work when I checked the mothership to see what was new at 1:30 am and saw this. 'Wear Them All' for G3F has been such a god-send that I couldn't wait for the G3M version to arrive.
Hats off to you Valzheimer for two excellent products. ![]()

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Thank you very much! I am so happy to see this.
Fantastic! It's such a great product,....SY Ultra Templates look amazing too!
Yeah I was wondering what they were at first but that looks promising too.
True that. Someone told me a bit back that 'Wear Them All for G3F' + 'SY's Templates for G3F' combined together and you were set. I believe it. Unfortunately because of the 2 months of sales I have not been able to get the G3F templates, and I will have to wait for the male templates as well.
I know they've been burning a hole in my purse too!....WTA for females is a fantastic product so I've no hesitation buying it for G3M...have them in my cart but will have to wait until Monday:(
Narrowed my other must-haves down to muscles morphs, vascularity and I'm keeping my fingers crossed someone comes up with an easy conversion of M4/G2M to G3M textures, my early Christmas present;)
Oh this post just made my day!
Thank you a lot guys, I should probably show more in forums in case anyone needs to reach me about my products.
Lots of love and YES, Sickle's SY Ultra Templates are a must to go with the clones because they help a lot with adding even more smoothing and repairing sensitive areas on clothes while fitting.
Have fun and stay creative!
That was me, Horus, and I stand by that statement. Of course, I have a few days of wait before I can get the Men's versions myself, but that day is coming soon. I picked up Shape Shift G3M a bit ago if only because there was a steep discount involved. To the morph mines!
Here's a question: the ad copy for Wear Them All for G3 Male says "... autofitting clones are created to smoothly fit any Genesis 2 Female, Genesis, Victoria 4 and Michael 4 conforming clothes to Genesis 3 Male(s) ..." and the list of auto-fitting clones included begins with "Genesis 2 Female Clone".
Am I right in thinking that this is copy-pasted from the corresponding product, and that "Genesis 2 Female" should actually read "Genesis 2 Male" in each case?
It would seem odd to me if valzheimer had made a product for G3M that included the ability to wear G2F clothing, but not G2M.
No, there's already a clone for G2M included with G3M - the product is additonal clones.
This is my first time out with a product like this, so just to make sure I'm not crazy: If I download these and start autofitting, this product will be the new default for autofit operations? Or do I need to do something in the UI to enable them? Thanks!
You will see them in the Autofit dialog in the drop down list of supported figures.
What Richard already said, Genesis 2 Male clone is included in Genesis 3 Essentials, while Genesis 2 Female one is provided in WTA pack :)
Cheers,
V.
oh, I suppose it was. I can't always seem to keep up with who told me what, haha.
Well, a bit after you told me that, I took your advice and picked up 'Wear Them All for G3F' and you were spot on. I don't know what I'd do without this. I loved it so much that as soon as I saw the G3M version the other night at work, I knew that the moment I got home that it was flying into the cart. I just can't recommend these enough to folks who love some of their old stuff and want to use it on the new generation characters. I'm yet to have problems with anything fitting......so far.
You are very welcome, and thanks for all that you do for the community.
I'd love to see some of your results, specifically in the groin area. With the default G2M auto-fit, pants that aren't skin-tight to begin with have quite the distortion, (you can see what I mean here.) When funds allow, I'll still get WTA for G3M, but I'd love to know ahead of time if that is still a problem.
I'm curious how this product works on tops designed for female characters. Does it do anything to smooth out the extra cup quality on the chest?
do you have a particular female top in mind? I can give it a go if i've got it and show you. I haven't noticed anything TOO bad, but I haven't really been concentrating on female clothing for him.
might be a bit of an extreme example...G3M base wearing the AS Slimefera (sp?) outfit. The bustier is very obviously designed for a female chest (also an outfit that I've had problems with it fitting properly to Genesis 2 Female as it is). The tips of the bustier do come away a tiny bit from his chest, but I think they are designed that way anyway. This is just default in the autofit, no smoothing or fixes applied.
this is that mec4d outfit for Genesis 2 Female - I can't think of the name of it....aviatrix or something. I did experience some "spiking" underneath his bulge in this one....but I played with the "bulge fix lower" to try and fix it. The top is a bikini top and seems to fit well, right up against his chest.
G3Male base in the Ballerina Outfit for Genesis 2 Females
Ballerina Outfit for Genesis 2 Female(s)
Default, no adjustments to it. Top fits well.
Capricornia top (if it can be called a 'top' LOL) and pants for Genesis 2 Females on G3Male base. No adjustments.
Now, there is a possibility you may run into a bit of a problem with certain skirts. *cough* The "Heartbeat" skirt wasn't very...uh...successful.
Although having said that, the corset and the stockings/underwear fits fine. Just...maybe leave off the skirt bit....
god, i'm gonna get banned for posting this.
ok, I looked at your test renders. I see what you mean. Well heres the problem, me being a guy, I don't do a ton of male renders, I mean sure I need to have males in some of my stuff, I always need the Warrior/barbarian, or whatever, so I have a bit less experience with these problems. Me being male and all and women being such beautiful creatures, I mean how can I resist?
Anyway, joking aside, I think there is a misunderstanding, maybe I should have explained myself more properly. What I mean as in having no problems is, clothing going hay-wire in some major form or another. Also, it was mentioned that WTA doesn't always do the best with hair, I've had no problems with hair. I was also told it didn't always, or just didn't do that well with dresses and skirts,....I have not had any of those problems really. Nothing has forced me to have to get the Template products yet, but I'm sure I will need them eventually, and am destined to run into a problem with skirts or dresses eventually. I have limited "casual" male clothes at the minute, such as the stuff in your test renders. I have done a few test renders here with Michael 7 with some of the stuff that I do have, such as Grantham stuff for G2M and fantasy stuff such as NightGuard for G2M. While you are not worried about hair, I added some G2M Drifter hair, just so the ole boys not bald. I did get some of the same distortions as you, maybe not quite so bad, neither pant is skin tight. Looks like there is certainly a problem with the guys in this area. I'm guessing you have tried 'Fit Control' or is that not out yet? I'm not even sure. Anyway, sorry for the confusion, I never meant problems such as what you meant, actually I have not yet (until now) tried to even fit G2M clothing on G3M. Anyway, the test reders attached are what I got. 
Looks like the bulge fixer has varying degrees of success and failure. Some pants (bulge) straightened up ok, one did real good, others not so much at all.
L'Adair: You must also remember, when I was speaking of not having any problems I was referring to WTA for G3F, as WTA for G3M only just came out and I only got it last night and had not even messed with that version until I did the test renders for you. But from what I can tell it seems to do a good job with the fits, but there is the crotch/bulge problem, but with an ability to attempt fixing it with the bulge fixers, but again that can be with varying degrees of success, sometimes not fixing it at all.
Thank you for taking the time to do those renders, HorusRa. I do appreciate it.
You seem to have gotten better results with WTA for G3M than I'm getting without it. That's encouraging. At least there is a "bulge fixer." Too bad the base didn't come with one, but just how much can we expect for free, right? lol
(And Drifter Hair looks pretty good, too. Maybe I'll buy it one of these days...)
Thanks again.
I will add some answers about "fixing" after automatic autofit using the clones gladly
1. Mainly autofit alone will do most of the job, and Genesis 3 Male showed to accept most of the differences (like female tops that are made for female chest) without too much hassle to completely iron out the area using SubD and smoothing modifier. WTA includes the PDF that explains how to use these two features inside Daz Studio because some older geometries on say V4 and M4 clothes weren't as detailed in resolution of the mesh as newer clothes nowadays is. So SubD and Smoothing modifier can help you with that. (PDF is in the Read Me folder inside the zip when you download it after purchase, so do read it I tried making it as simple and understanding as possible)
2. Clones "shapes" being representative shapes of what Genesis, Genesis 2 Female, Michael and Vicky 4 originally look like in 3D space differ in height and so on compared to Genesis 3 Male, you may encounter seeing where those differences affect say how the hair falls over the shoulders. Here as well smoothing helps, but what also helps is the quality of Genesis 3 itself, so fixings you can do manually can be minor.
3. The Crotch fixers, including the reason I added separate "Expand Shirt" and "Expand Pants" separately this time is so you can fix the pants if the "bulge" starts looking wonky on autofit. I suggest expanding pants and manipulating the bulge fixers with both + and - values to achieve what you are looking for in that area. These are projection morphs and don't affect the shape of your Genesis 3 model, but they project on clothes alone. Where you want to loosen up, tighten up. Simply use the dials and combine them and add some smoothing and most unwanted results can be transformed to better looking.
4. Shoes - I am much happier with how shoes fit to Genesis 3 Male then how they did to Female(s), probably because it is mostly flat sole. In this particular area we have the big thumb of Genesis 3 Male that you may want to bend down to follow the edge of the shoe and make it less broken on the line. Basically just doing that will bring back the line of the shoe to what it looks like originally - this is because Genesis 3 in general has more detailed bones inside feet that older shoes weren't created for so they will just obey the shape and distort where they find the bumps or position of toes it is not used to.
Example, M4 shoes, without fixing the position of the thumb and with resolution/smoothing intact:
literaly few seconsd of bending toe down and adding smoothing and higher res/SubD to same shoes:
Here I included a few screenshots to give you the insight of what you get with the product, they are also included in PDF, and should cover anything you may encounter along with autofitting
Once you install WTA these fixers found under Full Body-WearThemAll will be your friend in getting better results 
Hope this helps anyone who had questions
V.
oh jeesh (humble-blush), you guys know far more about this stuff then I. I didn't feel there was anything of substance that i "knew" about, but since you asked about the male version of WTA, I figured I'd give it a try, especially since I didn't get to mess with it after I d/l the other day, this way I was able to learn something too. I had no clue about the bulge problem, you brought that to my awareness. I mean, I use guys of different types in renders, not just fantasy stuff, but mostly females, thats probably why I was not really too aware of this problem. Drifter Hair; hmmmm, I probably got that on a decent sale, one of those things you kind of like the look of, so u gamble. I ended up liking it, it seems to always work well. I've used it a number of times, I also have limited male hair, but I'll rectify that soon because I am starting to need it a bit more now. Anyway, glad that I was able to help, especially as you guys have done so much for me.
Thanks Valzheimer for that info. When I did those tests above, at that time, I didnt even know about the bulge fixes, I didn't see them until after I posted the 2 pics for L'Adair, hence my second post immediately after the test renders. I was actually rendering 3 more but got tired and needed to resume working on another wip, so I just swiped the ones using the 'fixers.' In one I was able to get rid of a bulge altogether. One refused anything, and the third was just moderate. And I never did see the 'Expands.' I must have glossed right over them somehow, especially since they are right next to the bulge fix. Oh no, a read me that is in a zip that my lazy, procrastinating butt has to go look for. Lol. Thanks. I'll have to go find that a bit later. Sounds like it will be very helpful. Thanks again for such wonderful products.
My pleasure, thank you guys for such wonderful support and encouragement, I am most honestly flattered as it took me a very long time to actually step up to becoming a vendor, even though I made my own clones and morphs and various clothing and stuff ever since the first Genesis generation
Ever since I finally got bold enough to release these the feedbacks I got are so overwhelming and literally a life changer for me. It is in my interest to help you guys get the best out of the product, so I am very glad to point out to details, and don't worry we're all very shy about stepping into the "Read Me" folder, i myself ignored those more times then I'd like to admit, LOL.
Thank you guys for such wonderful support, the feeling I made the community happy makes it worthwile
V.
I was wondering why no G2M autofit so I opened daz studio to see if g3m already have a G2M autofit clone.