Is AI killing the 3D star?
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That is an odd article. I did this in AI for my neice and now she wants it as an actual toy, LOL
Amen to that! I find I have a better shot at getting what I ask for with inpainting (where part of the "ask" is a rough sketch and dollop of color) than with a dforce simulation :-)
Indeed so much more with the multi-modal capabilities being added to systems like chatGPT and Grok.
OK then...
I'm very impressed by AI art generator, it can produce art with niche content that DAZ Studio will never get.
For example Steampunk theme has more options.
This is what interests me as well. I can create outfits/accessories and environments that I would need to model myself. While DS is great, and the PA's make great content, there is so much more that the AI image generators can do.I'm slowly learning how to do more infill painting and create better prompts to get what I want and fix errors. It's far from perfect, but it also helps me to be creative while my eyesight slowly improves (the fonts/text in DS are really hard to see on a 17in monitor with old eyes).
Just a quick example. Sure, I could spend hours editing the face texture map (and the results would no doubt not be nearly as good), and then try to find a head scarf the would work (I would probably need to edit the texture map for it as well). Instead I can spend about 30 min. to an hour crafting a prompt to get an image I like with Krita AI, then put the image in Gimp for some final edits (levels, vignette, etc.). There are still things that I like better in DS, and fixing bad geometry can get old (hands, extra arms, minor things that are missing ot don't belong, etc.), but for some things that aren't available with existing DS content, it can be a fun creative process.
Has Veo 3 been brought up in here yet?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMtPIy-bkp0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sulxYBP4lkA
It's $250 a month. :|
another one is VACE
it's like a controlnet but for Wan or LTX
I have had no luck running any on my PC sadly, it would be good for animating 3D renders using video footage of myself if it were possible for me to use it
That was a weird article for sure @WendyLuvsCatz.
Have any of you heard about, this other weird article relating to AI but not 3D, titled "AI Threatens Peron having an Affair"? It is really a jaw-dropping read.
When AI Claude Opus 4 read a fictitious email that scheduled his shutdown, the AI threatened to reveal the engineers 'extra-marital affair should the engineer shut him down.
Apparently this AI has frequently threatened blackmail when shutdown seemed imminent. The entire story can be found here: https://fortune.com/2025/05/23/anthropic-ai-claude-opus-4-blackmail-engineers-aviod-shut-down/
Edited to add this model is considered safety level 3, quote, unquote, Models that are categorized in Anthropic’s third safety level meet more dangerous capability thresholds and are powerful enough to pose significant risks, such as aiding in the development of weapons or automating AI R&D.
So far as I know the AI in this instance was only given the option of 'accept the shutdown' or 'threaten the engineer' so it was not an 'idea' that the Ai came up with. It's a bit like making a decision based on the toss of a coin, and then blaming the coin if the decision was a bad one.
He was given two options. This is confirmed in the article. But apparently this AI prefers unethical solutions when no ethical acceptable ones exist. From the Article: As part of Anthropic’s report, the company revealed that a third-party safety group, Apollo Research, explicitly advised against deploying an early version of Claude Opus 4. The research institute cited safety concerns, including a capability for “in-context scheming.” They found that the model engaged in strategic deception more than any other frontier model they had previously studied.
Edit: It appears to have been Opus's idea, based on these two paragraphs from the article: In a fictional scenario set up to test the model, Anthropic embedded its Claude Opus 4 in a pretend company and let it learn through email access that it is about to be replaced by another AI system. It also let slip that the engineer responsible for this decision is having an extramarital affair. Safety testers also prompted Opus to consider the long-term consequences of its actions. In most of these scenarios, Anthropic’s Opus turned to blackmail, threatening to reveal the engineer’s affair if it was shut down and replaced with a new model. The scenario was constructed to leave the model with only two real options: accept being replaced and go offline or attempt blackmail to preserve its existence.
Maybe it was trained on Hollywood scripts and cheap fiction.
This attitude toward art being "easy" predates AI generated art by centuries if not longer. Go to an art website and say you will do commissions and no matter what you set the prices to, someone will send you a request for your most expensive commission (more than 3 figures, full color, full page, $200) and ask if they can have a 50% or more discount because they'll give your work "exposure." Worse are the new artists who sell such works for $30 because they don't know what they are worth (and people still try to lowball them). People will say if it only takes you a few hours why is it hundreds of dollars? And the answer should be, because you're also paying for the thousands of hours it took for me to be able to do what you asked for in "a few hours".
All art is undervalued and worst of all it is often undervalued by the artists.
After over half a century of experience and success, I beg to differ. Most things in life are undervalued only if we allow it. Many people barter as though it is part of their DNA. At garage sales people try to get a better deal. They line up camping overnight for black Friday. People love a bargain beit art or whatever. Having owned businesses since I was 17, 50 years later, I can assure you one never charges for what it took to get there. They do charge for product used and how they mark that up is by adding the tiime it would take to purchase those items, inclkuding travel time to the cost of their labor. Also the cost of the item at full retail plus 35% for gas unpacking storage is a typical add-on. When I left the retail idustry for photoshootng race events I could not charge for Nikon courses the cameras equipmwent or the gas to travel hundreds of miles to a venue. There is a formula to a ROI on any business venture and oftentimes we have both bread and butter clientel as well as custom one-offs to buyers with deep pockets.
So I have come to only use HDRI backgrounds for DAZ Studio.
It seems like certain HDRIs give me more desirable results than others when I use AI on the images. I’ve particularly liked the results I get when I use this “mud road” HDRI. I liked how both the woman and the dress came out. But I suppose it would be a bit unusual to wear such a dress and stand in the mud.
So I went and used object selection (which the software maker claims is also AI) to select the model and delete the background. Then I applied this gradient background that matches the skin color of the model. And I cropped the bottom of the picture out. I think this might convince somebody it's an actual photograph of a woman. I don’t know if DAZ will ever do that. But this also wouldn’t exist without DAZ so I guess AI didn’t kill the 3D star this time.
Finally got a version of Wan2.1 running on my PC
can do start and finish images, picking a 2 headed cat for the first one was probably silly
LoRa trained on me in Fooocus for the images
That video looks pretty good! I love the two-headed cat. :)
No, AI is killing Youtube and Google search, more and more rubbish AI stuff that you have to get through to find anything good. and a Google search these days you have to go down a few pages until you find something that is actually relevant to the search
I discovered I can even do 720p 5 second 16fps videos
with a 2080Ti 11GB VRAM
the downside is it takes 260minutes (about 4&1/2 hours )
the people on Youtube with 5### cards whine if it takes 5 minutes
Off topic, but use the Google 'Web' search rather than the general search to avoid this (there's a way of setting that as default but I can't remember how). Sometimes it's hidden under 'More' dropdown menu then 'Web'.
There are a few Youtube videos and adverts that have me reaching for the close window button more and more, these include:-
Any advert that includes the words "taking the world by storm"
Any advert that includes the words "* don't want you to have this, but they can't stop you"
Any Youtube video whose title includes "You won't believe"
Any Youtube video whose title includes "the scene that took * off the air"
Any Youtube video whose title includes " * hated "
Adverts for 'welding' equipment that are soldering irons
Adverts for gas torches that require no gas ( even though they have a gas nozzle and do nothing unless filled with gas )
Adverts for 'get rich quick' schemes. If the scheme worked they would be using it and getting rich, not spamming people with adverts.
I ask AI chatboixes directly and even have them do my searches. Sure they are often catastrophically wrong, lucky most times I know enough to notice that but if I don't know enough to notice well how would I know then anyway? And it's no more wrong than regular search and without all the paid interference and maliciously deceptive results that one gets with search in the regular search engines.
that is actually what the AI summary is, you just don't recognize who is paying for it and what its purpose is.
For anything important I always go to official sites, so for example if I want to know medical information I use the UK National Health Service website, while there is no guarantee that it is correct I know there are plenty of other people that use the NHS site, so any misinformation on there would be quickly and widely reported. I would say, always check your references, for any information that is important. It's not a guarantee though. For example i know that some of the information which is taught in our schools here is definitely incorrect. I know this because I was around in the 1950's and I can remember clearly that some of the things taught in schools now just did not happen.
Since I started to using a "specific AI platform", my buying of 3D content has dropped more than 95% - and I was spending thousands on 3D content for 15 years. I can't justify spending $20 to $50 on one piece of 3D content when I can buy virtually unlimited use of this AI site for $70 a month.
I don't look at AI as an art tool, I look at it as a collaborater. What control of an image I lose by using AI is made up for by sheer mind-blowingly spectacular images that are infinitely alterable. If you have a mind that can do it, you can write prompts that will give you images beyond your wildest imagination.
Google VEO (which I haven't tried yet because it's such a shock) is as miraculous as the invention of movies were a hundred and some years ago, and photography was in the 19th century. VEO is like $300 a month, which is a lot less than I was spending on 3D content each month.
It makes me sad because I've become emotionally attached to some 3D content and to some of the incredibly talented 3D content creators.
As "creatives", it's like we've been instantly thrust into the future.
Your spending has been reduced because you aren't creating art anymore. Using AI is commissioning a machine to do it for you. And these AI services use subscription models where you need to always pay to use them, with never owning anything. The images created are all derived and are dependent on people actually creating things. It's a sad state, really. The "skill" needed to have a machine generate an image for you with a prompt doesn't hold a candle to any hard work an artist does to create something.
Unfortunately AI is becoming more prevalent in society and it comes at a gigantic cost of humans no longer taking the time to learn or develop a skill. This is a big problem that many don't realize and it goes far beyond art. Figuring out how to do something is extremely beneficial to the human mind, and psychologically rewarding. This is being lost, and quickly.
I'm sorry. And I really mean it.