Question on nudity

cosmo71cosmo71 Posts: 3,609
edited August 2015 in The Commons

Hello, I am just working on a G2F version of Dixie with my default Dixie skin so I want to upload a render with nudity (just the breasts, the genitals are hidden). Are nude breasts allowed?

I want to get some opinions?

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  • larsmidnattlarsmidnatt Posts: 4,511

    Gallery and Posted Image Conduct

    • Images may not show genitals, or the bare groin or buttocks, of humanoid figures. Images of female humanoids may not show the breasts.
  • cosmo71cosmo71 Posts: 3,609

    Gallery and Posted Image Conduct

    • Images may not show genitals, or the bare groin or buttocks, of humanoid figures. Images of female humanoids may not show the breasts.

    the should do some improvements and add nudity tags so we can upload nudity renders flagged.

  • jestmartjestmart Posts: 4,449

    No, though there was an exception is it was to display a problem, not sure that exception still allowed.  But I thought Dixie was a child character and if I am right then the answer would be, "HELL NO!!!, you want to get the place closed?"

  • EtriganEtrigan Posts: 603
    edited August 2015

    The DAZ site and forums are already flagged by many of the more conservative filters. There are some public connections, that won't allow anything respecting nudity, and by default, the vendor pages often have full-frontal nudity. We can't push that envelope much further and remain available on public networks. This isn't DAZ being prudish, it's being cautious as it is a business (not sure if being registered in one of the more conservative States is a factor).

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  • cosmo71cosmo71 Posts: 3,609
    edited August 2015

    I understand that but to get some comments of how good/real the character looks it should be allowed to show a bit nudity (breasts for example) to show gens is not important.

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  • cosmo71 said:

    I understand that but to get some comments of how good/real the character looks it should be allowed to show a bit nudity (breasts for example) to show gens is not important.

    If you really want to post nudes, you should make a deviantart account. They allow pretty much anything, and have exstensive flags/filters for images.

  • cosmo71cosmo71 Posts: 3,609
    edited August 2015
    jestmart said:

    No, though there was an exception is it was to display a problem, not sure that exception still allowed.  But I thought Dixie was a child character and if I am right then the answer would be, "HELL NO!!!, you want to get the place closed?"

    Dixie is a child character? Where the hell are you living? Dixie is about 30yrs old, look at my images man. It is Character I have created and nothing you can buy.

     

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  • cosmo71cosmo71 Posts: 3,609
    edited August 2015

    Is this a child character???? I think not. BTW I am still working on the texture. Unfortunately the tan lines aren`t working because of the 3d-party gens, I do not really know how this product creates its textures but without tanlines everything works well, what I do not understand, both, with tan lines and without tanlines are jpeg images of the skin so normaly it should also work with tanlines but it does not. Second thing is I am still working on the morphs, this is still a first shoot :) rendered in 3Delight with AoA lights and v4 skin/UV´s.

    DX - G2F LATEST VERSION 3.jpg
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  • larsmidnattlarsmidnatt Posts: 4,511
    edited August 2015
    cosmo71 said:

    Gallery and Posted Image Conduct

    • Images may not show genitals, or the bare groin or buttocks, of humanoid figures. Images of female humanoids may not show the breasts.

    the should do some improvements and add nudity tags so we can upload nudity renders flagged.

    we brought this up years ago when the site went through changes, never happened. Site changed again since then. Still not changes.

    http://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/3279/acceptable-ways-of-handling-nudity

    That was posted in July 2012 when we first lost the filters.

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  • DaWaterRatDaWaterRat Posts: 2,885

    Yeah, I'd go with a deviant art account and point people to it (though not directly to the picture, 'cause I think that's still against the TOS) so they can look and give feedback.

  • larsmidnattlarsmidnatt Posts: 4,511

    because DA has filters, i think it is allowed. at least that was the old rules. If the other site has age restrictions and won't show nudity directly unless you have already agreed to seeing it, I think you are OK. Though normally I just point to my homepage as well.

  • cosmo71cosmo71 Posts: 3,609
    edited August 2015
    cosmo71 said:

    Gallery and Posted Image Conduct

    • Images may not show genitals, or the bare groin or buttocks, of humanoid figures. Images of female humanoids may not show the breasts.

    the should do some improvements and add nudity tags so we can upload nudity renders flagged.

    we brought this up years ago when the site went through changes, never happened. Site changed again since then. Still not changes.

    http://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/3279/acceptable-ways-of-handling-nudity

    That was posted in July 2012 when we first lost the filters.

    No problem with this, was just a question. What makes me angry was this post that Dixie is a child character, what she is definitely not or the one who posts that she is a child character needs glasses.

     

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  • larsmidnattlarsmidnatt Posts: 4,511

    I wouldnt' take it too serious. They did say "i thought"

  • cosmo71cosmo71 Posts: 3,609

    I wouldnt' take it too serious. They did say "i thought"

    other question, what do you think about the image and character in it?

     

  • larsmidnattlarsmidnatt Posts: 4,511
    cosmo71 said:

    I wouldnt' take it too serious. They did say "i thought"

    other question, what do you think about the image and character in it?

     

    Looks OK to me.

  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,090

    I don't want nudity on this forum. I'm happy with the rules as is.

  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604

    I don't want nudity on this forum. I'm happy with the rules as is.

    That's good, because the rules will be staying just as they are.

  • SzarkSzark Posts: 10,634

    I don't want nudity on this forum. I'm happy with the rules as is.

    ditto

     

    cosmo I have always loved this character you made and to be honest you don't need to expose that much skin to see if it is realistic or not.

  • because DA has filters, i think it is allowed. at least that was the old rules. If the other site has age restrictions and won't show nudity directly unless you have already agreed to seeing it, I think you are OK. Though normally I just point to my homepage as well.

    That's right, as long as you have to log in and set your filters (or temporarily suspend them) to see the image you can post a link.

  • tl155180tl155180 Posts: 994
    edited August 2015

    The one thing that bothers me about the no nudity rule is not knowing what a female character's nipples look like when I buy them. I can see a male character's nipples though - no problem with that (I know, I know; not the same thing). The comic I do includes adult themes and occasionally I have nude scenes. Sometimes I'll buy a character because she looks pretty, then I'll see the poor nipples they've given her and wish I hadn't bought her. Its a shame there isn't a way to check these details out before you buy.

    Other prominent 3D product sites handle it fine, with modesty filters etc. Its a shame Daz didn't decide to go down that route too. I'm not a fan of buying something blind.

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  • cosmo71cosmo71 Posts: 3,609

    I don't want nudity on this forum. I'm happy with the rules as is.

    It was not my intention to upload the image here at the forum but in my gallery

  • cosmo71cosmo71 Posts: 3,609

    other question. No problem to transfer my M4 skins to G2M but how does it work with the skin of the genitals? Or is this not supported by any converter?

  • FSMCDesignsFSMCDesigns Posts: 12,846
    tl155180 said:

    The one thing that bothers me about the no nudity rule is not knowing what a female character's nipples look like when I buy them. I can see a male character's nipples though - no problem with that (I know, I know; not the same thing). The comic I do includes adult themes and occasionally I have nude scenes. Sometimes I'll buy a character because she looks pretty, then I'll see the poor nipples they've given her and wish I hadn't bought her. Its a shame there isn't a way to check these details out before you buy.

    Other prominent 3D product sites handle it fine, with modesty filters etc. Its a shame Daz didn't decide to go down that route too. I'm not a fan of buying something blind.

    Agreed! It's why I rarely purchase characters from DAZ compared to other sites, can't see what I am getting.

  • cosmo71cosmo71 Posts: 3,609
    tl155180 said:

    The one thing that bothers me about the no nudity rule is not knowing what a female character's nipples look like when I buy them. I can see a male character's nipples though - no problem with that (I know, I know; not the same thing). The comic I do includes adult themes and occasionally I have nude scenes. Sometimes I'll buy a character because she looks pretty, then I'll see the poor nipples they've given her and wish I hadn't bought her. Its a shame there isn't a way to check these details out before you buy.

    Other prominent 3D product sites handle it fine, with modesty filters etc. Its a shame Daz didn't decide to go down that route too. I'm not a fan of buying something blind.

    Agreed! It's why I rarely purchase characters from DAZ compared to other sites, can't see what I am getting.

    same to me, you can`t see nothing, even if the character has pubic hair or not, allways have to edit textures of characters if buying here at daz

     

  • tl155180tl155180 Posts: 994
    edited August 2015

    I understand the reasons behind the policies - family friendly site... no adult tag... forum might just become a porn-fest... etc. But when you're selling products like characters with nipples and the infamous genitalia option it would be really helpful if they could devise some way to allow people to see what they're actually getting.

    I mean, I might want to upgrade to G3 in the future. Do I want the pro bundles in order to get the genitalia option? I have no idea, because I haven't a clue what it looks like or how good it is.

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  • DarkSpartanDarkSpartan Posts: 1,096

    because DA has filters, i think it is allowed. at least that was the old rules. If the other site has age restrictions and won't show nudity directly unless you have already agreed to seeing it, I think you are OK. Though normally I just point to my homepage as well.

    That's right, as long as you have to log in and set your filters (or temporarily suspend them) to see the image you can post a link.

    Which, on dA, is required if you put the 18+ tag on the image. If I want to put up promotional images for characters, a dA link in a thread associated with the character is the best bet.

  • cosmo71cosmo71 Posts: 3,609
    tl155180 said:

    I understand the reasons behind the policies - family friendly site... no adult tag... forum might just become a porn-fest... etc. But when you're selling products like characters with nipples and the infamous genitalia option it would be really helpful if they could devise some way to allow people to see what they're actually getting.

    I mean, I might want to upgrade to G3 in the future. Do I want the pro bundles in order to get the genitalia option? I have no idea, because I haven't a clue what it looks like or how good it is.

    if you want genitals for g3f or even for g2f then go to renderotica and search for 3feetwolf :) just a tip.

     

  • cosmo71cosmo71 Posts: 3,609
    edited August 2015

    Well it does not matter if it is allowed or not, Dixie is still Dixie and Dixie is a V4.2, the image shows a try with G2F and okay, G2F and also G3F have some things that are better but...

    The thing is there are many clothes I have for v4.2 that I like my Character to wear and also some hair and also with converters some of these do not fit even not with smoothing modifier and collision. So, it is easy for me to choose. I will work with my good and old V4.2 Dixie

    And also clothes I have bought for G2F or G3F are not fitting correct to the figures. I do not know what the vendors create but they have do create some better stuff and also the clothes haven`t less morphs allowing individual movements of clothes. The Vendors here at daz should have a look at the clothes by 3D-Age (most of my V4 clothes are by 3D-Age) at Renderosity for example. Sure the high quality textures are add ons you have to buy if you want more versatility but with the texture add ons and the clothes you spend less money than here at daz and get clothes with tons of additional morphs for open/close, ups/downs, swings, sides, length and so on and on and on, go there and have a look. If you want to create normal street wear clothes of today and also underwear 3D-Age should be an inspiration.

    Okay some historic clothes or the clothes I Dixie wears in my "streets of London" renders (which I realy like) are DAZ clothes for V4.2 but even these clothes do not fit correctly to any of the new generation figures. If it comes to skirts it seems to be a problem for converters.

    Here is the link to 3D-Age`s store.

    https://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/vendor/3D-Age

    have a look at the morphs lists of the clothes.

    BTW, the bikini G2F wears in the image some posts before is by 3D-Age and originaly made for V4.2.

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  • TaozTaoz Posts: 10,282
    tl155180 said:

    I understand the reasons behind the policies - family friendly site...

    Yea, we must teach our kids some good manners.... angel

    http://www.daz3d.com/chainsaw

    http://www.daz3d.com/severed-man

  • ANGELREAPER1972ANGELREAPER1972 Posts: 4,560
    edited September 2015

    well I upload my images on several sites here, rendo, runtime dna, elfwood and deviant art. rendo and deviant art allow nudity but you have to set it to 18+ option so that only those regestered as over 18 can view it. Also what I often do is create two versions of some images the uncensored version I upload share on deviant/rendo mostly just deviant and a censored version with the character/clothed to cover up certain areas and then mention to see an alternative uncensered version on my deviant art page that I post here and on facebook.

    I did get reported recently on facebook though someone complained to them saying my image was offessive with nudity which it didn't have she was wearing lingerie which wasn't revealing and the facebook administraors agreed with me and gave me the seal of approval and said they saw nothing wrong with it big win for me and rare they do that, oh and a lot of female my friends online and off couldn't believe someone complained either a lot of them are big fans of fantasy and pinup stuff 

    oh yeah Dixie she looks like a good character

     

    serenity 8 - iray render 652pm020815.jpg
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