Ivar 9 Mega Bundle

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  • MelissaGT said:

    Here is a comparison of Ivar 9 out of the box...compared to some simple tweaks to sss (literally less than 30 sec to make the changes) - click for full size

    And just like that, right proper red nose and everything, just begging for some frost build-up on his eyelashes.

  • memcneil70memcneil70 Posts: 5,356

    So with two discount offers, 30% and 20% and my DAZ+ coupon, the Mega Bundle went down to 75% off, or $60.52, wiping out the last of my store credit, along with the texture set for the Wolfskin Viking Outfit and a DAZ+ shader released today and of course the wonderful freebie. 

    DAZ Marketing, we need another Gift Card sale now or at least after the 15th when paychecks come out for folks mid-month.

    @MelissaGT love what you did with Ivar.

    Mary

  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,088

    Heh, yeah, this wiped out the last of my store credit, too.

    Puppy eyes, whine whine gift card sale!

    (I may be a vendor but I have nooooo control over that stuff)

     

  • xyer0xyer0 Posts: 6,347

    Daz has trained me not to buy Core Figures the day of release, but I'm glad others do, so I can see if it's worth it. His face looks like he needs a higher dosage T-shot.

  • Here's a render of I did of Ivar in DAZ + Post.  Used the masculine morph + ivar.

  • lilweeplilweep Posts: 2,747
    Idk why, anthropometrically, but he looks a bit female to me
  • memcneil70memcneil70 Posts: 5,356

    In case anyone is missing their thumbnail for the dForce Wolfskin Viking Outfit for Genesis 9, an extra character was entered in the SKU in the number in the Support files, so instead of '88667' it is '886673'. I have submitted a ticket to Technical Support just now. Just wanted to save folks some effort.

  • memcneil70memcneil70 Posts: 5,356

    mal3Imagery said:

    Here's a render of I did of Ivar in DAZ + Post.  Used the masculine morph + ivar.

    I like what you did.

    Overall, I think he looks like a regular guy you could find anywhere, and depending on the outfit, take him to space or put him on the runway or on a tractor. Versatile. 

  • I like Ivar.

    I don't like the trend of DAZ bundles not including any additional characters. It started with the last few 8.1 bundles, but it is a more obvious problem now with fewer G9 characters (and therefore skins) on the market. There are a lot of G9 clothes I like, but the smaller number of characters and that one of the few vendors on this site making masculine human G9 characters doesn't include maps for the anatomical elements is making for slim pickings.

    The price seems fair for what's in the bundle, and there's good stuff in there, but wish we had bundles more like G8.

  • plasma_ringplasma_ring Posts: 1,027
    edited January 2023

    Gorgeous renders, folks! Thank you for showing his skin with different lighting and settings. :D

    People saying he looks feminine are cracking me up, though. You could yell, "HEY, MATT" in any bar in any city and I guarantee this dude would be indistinguishable from any of the other 20 guys looking up. Even "regular" 3D men just usually have more chiseled facial structure than this, so he's an outlier.

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  • GreybroGreybro Posts: 2,600

    This bundle was right up my alley so to speak. 
    Mega Bundling

  • Agree with some of the other comments about looking too feminine, especially in the face. The placement of the biceps is off with that really low peak. All these g9 men have had a real soft, kinda doughiness to them that just doesn't work for me. I keep waiting for something to change my mind about g9, and with Ivar I'm still waiting frown

  • memcneil70memcneil70 Posts: 5,356

    I went looking for references to what Vikings/Normans might have looked like as in hair/eyes.... and found this source which also commented on the appearance of men and women, which might blow a few of your minds.

    Also, I am not sure if anyone linked to the bundle yet.

    @Greybro, did you sneak back in time and take a black and white picture? That is really cool.

  • GreybroGreybro Posts: 2,600

    memcneil70 said:

    I went looking for references to what Vikings/Normans might have looked like as in hair/eyes.... and found this source which also commented on the appearance of men and women, which might blow a few of your minds.

    Also, I am not sure if anyone linked to the bundle yet.

    @Greybro, did you sneak back in time and take a black and white picture? That is really cool.

    The set really reminds me of the film, "13th Warrior."
  • lilweeplilweep Posts: 2,747

    Gorgeous renders, folks! Thank you for showing his skin with different lighting and settings. :D

    People saying he looks feminine are cracking me up, though. You could yell, "HEY, MATT" in any bar in any city and I guarantee this dude would be indistinguishable from any of the other 20 guys looking up. Even "regular" 3D men just usually have more chiseled facial structure than this, so he's an outlier.

    I dont think it is a case of not having chiselled features. He looks a touch F2M. Maybe it is just the eyelashes after all.
  • maikdeckermaikdecker Posts: 3,037

    bytescapes said:

    maikdecker said:

    The bundle should be properly named "Ivar, the hollywod viking" laugh

    Perhaps. Although some of the clothing looks a little closer to the historical reality than is common in Hollywood depictions of Vikings. The "Viking Warrior Outfit" looks basically like something a farmer might wear -- which is what most of them probably were when they weren't off raiding. That belt looks wrong, though; Viking belts were narrow rather than broad.

    That Viking Warrior outfit is even slightly ahead of the others, except for it looking like if the tunic was made from leather. And the swordbelt going over the shoulder with the sword sitting there - which makes it utterly uncomfortable to be drawn in combat - and the belt.. and the shield being kinda accurate, but for the border part - which is so thick that an axe could be used to pull the shield out of the way so a second opponent could stab the now unprotected shieldbearer... the boots look interesting, especially with the straps, which I haven't seen on viking age shoes/boots, but think to have seen them on bags.

    So in the end, using stuff the more realistic parts of all the four outfits would end up having one okay-ish outfit realism-wise. But better not look at most of the weapon stuff, tattoos and the combat poses - which are great for hollywood action fighting, but would get someone killed really fast when tried in real combat... devil

  • Ughh, I'm tempted, but it's a bit expensive for me at the minute. I like the look of him a lot — from the middle of the nose up he reminds me of the Canadian actor Yannick Bisson, eyelashes and all — but I'm not in need of Viking clothing and the character on his own's pricy. I'll camp at this thread and hopefully some people will manage to link pictures.

  • The only women I could think of that would look like him wait tables at truck stops...

  • MimicMollyMimicMolly Posts: 2,322
    He looks like a great base for one of my OCs, so I'm tempted to get him. Not convinced by these "deals" though.
  • bytescapesbytescapes Posts: 1,905

    Greybro said:

    memcneil70 said:

    I went looking for references to what Vikings/Normans might have looked like as in hair/eyes.... and found this source which also commented on the appearance of men and women, which might blow a few of your minds.

    Also, I am not sure if anyone linked to the bundle yet.

    @Greybro, did you sneak back in time and take a black and white picture? That is really cool.

    The set really reminds me of the film, "13th Warrior."

    "The 13th Warrior" (or the book it was based on, "Eaters of the Dead") was inspired by the memoirs of Ibn Fadlan, which is mentioned in the article that @memcneil70 links to. (Oh, and by "Beowulf" as well). Ibn Fadlan seems to have had mixed feelings about the Rus he encountered: he was horrified by their personal hygiene and some of their other habits, but considered them physically "perfect". 

    The more recent film, "The Northman", is perhaps a bit more historically-grounded. I got a little tired of Amleth's antics by the end, but the makers seem to have made some effort to make it at least a little historically plausible, and the scenes of life in Kievan Rus and Iceland are interesting.

  • youri_zyouri_z Posts: 161

    Which is weird for a viking pack, because here in the Nordics people could dump milk on the floor and hide on top of it.

    laugh

  • xyer0xyer0 Posts: 6,347
    edited January 2023

    mal3Imagery said:

    Here's a render of I did of Ivar in DAZ + Post.  Used the masculine morph + ivar.

     That's what he needed. I haven't worked with Genesis 9 much; are the Core Figures modeled on the Base without the male or female dials?

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  • plasma_ringplasma_ring Posts: 1,027
    edited January 2023

    lilweep said:

    I dont think it is a case of not having chiselled features. He looks a touch F2M. Maybe it is just the eyelashes after all.

    I mean, I'm all for him being trans, and I know trans guys who look like that. I also know cis guys who look like that. It's just kind of funny (and a little eerie, not gonna lie) seeing how little it takes for a ripped dude with stubble to be perceived as feminine.

    Anyway, he's cute. Kind of want him for the skin, mostly, but I'm hoping for more variety in upcoming characters.

    xyer0 said:

     That's what he needed. I haven't worked with Genesis 9 much; are the Core Figures modeled on the Base without the male or female dials?

    Yep. I actually don't think I've picked up a character for G9 yet that wasn't modeled on the base, core or not. Not sure if that's a Daz requirement.

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  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,704

    I picked  up Ivar. His under eye bags kinda bug me, but lots of content in his bundle looks useful, although I 'm super not into the Hollywood Viking.

    The content will be useful for fantasy renders though.

  • I think that, as with Genesis before it (and even, to an extent, some of the intervening figures)  this discussion of whether a character looks "masculinbe" or "feminine" is apt to become offensive very easily. Please endeavour to be careful in your phrasing, and if possible use terms that are more specificly about particularly about aspects of the shape rather than dealing with stereotypes.

  • lilweeplilweep Posts: 2,747
    edited January 2023

    plasma_ring said:

    lilweep said:

    I dont think it is a case of not having chiselled features. He looks a touch F2M. Maybe it is just the eyelashes after all.

    I mean, I'm all for him being trans, and I know trans guys who look like that. I also know cis guys who look like that. It's just kind of funny (and a little eerie, not gonna lie) seeing how little it takes for a ripped dude with stubble to be perceived as feminine.

    Anyway, he's cute. Kind of want him for the skin, mostly, but I'm hoping for more variety in upcoming characters.

    well in my original comment i alluded to a possible anthropometric femininity, i.e., that there were other facial factors that are registering the face as feminine, and they are not readily masked by some superficial masculine traits like facial hair and body muscularity that you reference. 

    im too dumb anatomy-wise to pinpoint why the character registered as feminine to me (I also suggested may just be eyelashes). Will continue to assess...

    Post edited by lilweep on
  • xyer0xyer0 Posts: 6,347

    Masculine and feminine ARE particular and specific aspects of the shape. They are types, not stereotypes. That's why Genesis 9 comes with a masculine dial and a feminine dial.

  • SevrinSevrin Posts: 6,313

    lilweep said:

    plasma_ring said:

    lilweep said:

    I dont think it is a case of not having chiselled features. He looks a touch F2M. Maybe it is just the eyelashes after all.

    I mean, I'm all for him being trans, and I know trans guys who look like that. I also know cis guys who look like that. It's just kind of funny (and a little eerie, not gonna lie) seeing how little it takes for a ripped dude with stubble to be perceived as feminine.

    Anyway, he's cute. Kind of want him for the skin, mostly, but I'm hoping for more variety in upcoming characters.

    well in my original comment i alluded to a possible anthropometric femininity, i.e., that there were other facial factors that are registering the face as feminine, and they are not readily masked by some superficial masculine traits like facial hair and body muscularity that you reference. 

    im too dumb anatomy-wise to pinpoint why the character registered as feminine to me (I also suggested may just be eyelashes). Will continue to assess...

    I had the same reaction.  That's not a knock or a reason not to buy the character, but it is the first impression I had.

  • TimbalesTimbales Posts: 2,423

    For me, I think it's a combination of several aspects - the large eyes, cheekbones, thick eyelashes and the high placed, well groomed eyebrows on a finer brow bone. Maybe less groomed looking brows, sitting lower on the brow bone, paired with sparser eyelashes would make a difference. 

  • MimicMollyMimicMolly Posts: 2,322
    Most men I've seen and known IRL have naturally thicker and longer eyelashes than women. (But these guys are also really hairy though.) Short eyelashes on a guy almost seem as unrealistic as the lipless cartoon males.
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