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New Eula sent over an insecure connection.

Nester751Nester751 Posts: 387
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Really? Eula changes but no https for the agreement? In todays digital age, I'm not even sure that this is binding as it's insecure. A third party could easily intercept it. Also must agree to even get into one's own paid product library?

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  • drinkingbuddydrinkingbuddy Posts: 350

    And what is the risk for an inteception of a EULA agreement?

  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604

    We have this discussion every time that there is an update to the Eula. It is perfectly safe to agree to the EULA, and the EULA is indeed a binding agreement.

  • Nester751Nester751 Posts: 387

    So what's the harm in making it https? It comes up immediately as soon as you choose to look at your product library of purchases. So are you saying https is pointless?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTPS

    While I might edge toward paranoia, seeing recent hacking going on makes me feel it's necessary.  Chrysler, a major automanufacturer posted a recall on the 23rd (late yesterday).

    http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/07/fiat-chrysler-recalls-1-4-million-cars-over-remote-hack-vulnerability/

    Details below

    http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/07/fiat-chrysler-connected-car-bug-lets-hackers-take-over-jeep-remotely/

     

  • Nester751Nester751 Posts: 387

    Oh side note, good luck with your phone security too.

    http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/07/advanced-spyware-for-android-now-available-to-script-kiddies-everywhere/

  • Testing6790Testing6790 Posts: 1,091
    Nester751 said:

    Really? Eula changes but no https for the agreement? In todays digital age, I'm not even sure that this is binding as it's insecure. A third party could easily intercept it. Also must agree to even get into one's own paid product library?

    I'm not sure where you would have come to the conclusion that the lack of SSL/TLS would make an agreement invalid...


    I'll agree that needing to agree to a changed EULA to access things you've already paid for under the previous to be a little... Off. Even if the EULA hasn't changed meaningfully, it's the principle. Retroactively adding rules to stuff you've already paid for is bad practice, imo. But, seriously, who reads the EULA anyway?

  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604
    Paradigm67 said:
     But, seriously, who reads the EULA anyway?
     

    That is a very good question.   At least nowadays you have 24/7 easy access to the EULA if you need it. 

     

    Before DIM the Eula was included on every Installer.exe, and you agreed to it every time you installed a product by ticking that little box that came up as you started the installer.  I often wonder how many people read the EULA before ticking the box.

  • mjc1016mjc1016 Posts: 15,001
    Chohole said:
     

    Before DIM the Eula was included on every Installer.exe, and you agreed to it every time you installed a product by ticking that little box that came up as you started the installer.  I often wonder how many people read the EULA before ticking the box.

    And if you, like me, have a ton of stuff (like all the old freebies that disappeared LAST major server/store/forum switchover) that only are installer packages then you STILL need to do it every time you install one of them.

  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604
    mjc1016 said:
    Chohole said:
     

    Before DIM the Eula was included on every Installer.exe, and you agreed to it every time you installed a product by ticking that little box that came up as you started the installer.  I often wonder how many people read the EULA before ticking the box.

    And if you, like me, have a ton of stuff (like all the old freebies that disappeared LAST major server/store/forum switchover) that only are installer packages then you STILL need to do it every time you install one of them.

    Not just freebies, I have an insane number of the old installers as I rarely bother to redownload unless I know that there is an update that will affect my workflow.  My runtimes have been carried over from machine to machine since P4 times, in fact I still have one runtime labelled P4 runtime which still has some stuff in it that hasn't ben catgorised into my newer runtimes.

  • Testing6790Testing6790 Posts: 1,091

    I took the time to read, or at least skim, the EULA the first few things I downloaded, but it's largely irrelevant to me. I don't really do anything that I would even consider checking the EULA for. I can see some people needing it, too, especially with commerical renders.

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