Michael 7/Genesis 3 Male

SylvanSylvan Posts: 2,719
edited December 1969 in The Commons

I found these images on the Genesis 3 page.
Looks like they are Michael 7!

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  • TenmaruTenmaru Posts: 105
    edited December 1969

    I only hope that his release won't be months away, like M6's was. V6 came out in June and M6 in November, that was quite a gap.

    Oh, and there was David 5 release after V6. So I wonder if there is still hope for David 6 after V7. One can dream, right? :roll:

  • caravellecaravelle Posts: 2,692
    edited December 1969

    I saw them, too. The figure looks a lot like G2M.

  • NadinoNadino Posts: 258
    edited December 1969

    Looks more like G2 figures though...

  • JUJUJUJU Posts: 1,133
    edited December 1969

    I would say that are the G3M bodymorphs not M7

  • NadinoNadino Posts: 258
    edited December 1969

    They look almost exactly like the G2 morphs (different lighting)
    http://www.daz3d.com/genesis-2-male-body-morphs
    http://www.daz3d.com/genesis-2-female-body-morphs
    I think those are old pics they used...

    G3F doesn't even look like that.

  • RogerbeeRogerbee Posts: 4,460
    edited December 1969

    I thought those pics were placeholders for YouTube videos they hadn't uploaded yet. If they were pics you'd think you could click and enlarge them.

    CHEERS!

  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,704
    edited December 1969

    I just hope they fix the pecs, the narrow heads and weird temples and the eyebrow weirdness.

    I loved the versatility of genesis male's head. Michael 6 had features you just couldn't scrub out

    I hope for a more versatile male base this time.

  • RogerbeeRogerbee Posts: 4,460
    edited December 1969

    The eyebrows on G3F look better to me.

    CHEERS!

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  • DaWaterRatDaWaterRat Posts: 2,885
    edited December 1969

    I'm hoping for M7/G3Male in October.

    That will be in time for the V7/G3Female stuff to no longer be "new" and therefore can be included in the M7 promo discounts...

  • RCDescheneRCDeschene Posts: 2,816
    edited December 1969

    Tenmaru said:
    I only hope that his release won't be months away, like M6's was. V6 came out in June and M6 in November, that was quite a gap.

    Oh, and there was David 5 release after V6. So I wonder if there is still hope for David 6 after V7. One can dream, right? :roll:


    Yeah, only because he was already out by the time G2 rolled-out. DAZ always releases the "left-overs" during the first few months of a new generation.
  • RCDescheneRCDeschene Posts: 2,816
    edited June 2015

    Anyway, I actually like what I see of the face from these shots. He looks less stoney and actually looks like a handsome guy you'd see in real life.

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  • RCTSpankyRCTSpanky Posts: 850
    edited December 1969

    They use this picture with 50 more or less incompatible products to praise the compatibilty of Genesis 3 and Genesis 3 Products. The whole campaig to bring Genesis 3 in front was too fast and uncoordinated or as I would say ... DAZ like.

    So, I'm pretty sure, that DAZ uses here pictures from Genesis 2, similar to the modified text from Victoria 6 for Victoria 7.

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  • almahiedraalmahiedra Posts: 1,367
    edited December 1969

    They use this picture with 50 more or less incompatible products to praise the compatibilty of Genesis 3 and Genesis 3 Products. The whole campaig to bring Genesis 3 in front was too fast and uncoordinated or as I would say ... DAZ like.

    So, I'm pretty sure, that DAZ uses here pictures from Genesis 2, similar to the modified text from Victoria 6 for Victoria 7.


    Polar bear, machines and flowers included... :lol:

  • RCDescheneRCDeschene Posts: 2,816
    edited June 2015

    gilikshe said:
    They use this picture with 50 more or less incompatible products to praise the compatibilty of Genesis 3 and Genesis 3 Products. The whole campaig to bring Genesis 3 in front was too fast and uncoordinated or as I would say ... DAZ like.

    So, I'm pretty sure, that DAZ uses here pictures from Genesis 2, similar to the modified text from Victoria 6 for Victoria 7.


    Polar bear, machines and flowers included... :lol:
    I'm betting we'll probably see Tulip 7 and Tank 7 before G3M comes out! :P

    Post edited by RCDeschene on
  • SpyroRueSpyroRue Posts: 5,020
    edited December 1969

    Estroyer said:
    I found these images on the Genesis 3 page.
    Looks like they are Michael 7!

    I saw that one already... Honestly I hope it's not G3M :P

    I am very convinced they are G2M (looking at all the areas that annoy me about the figure (the exaggerated base shoulder width, the elongated pecs so oddly shaped and way too defined.. the flat face and lack of cheeks, shoulder/armpit bend issues... Etc. things I spend way too much effort and get frustrated trying to fix all the time :lol: )) the Female I also believe is G2F. If it is the base G3M, then it has all the flaws that I hoped would get fixed XD I wouldn't be thrilled if it was a repeat lol

    But really IMO if G3M is up to G3F standards, I'm certain it'll be fantastic figure, they did excellent work her :)

  • KeryaKerya Posts: 10,943
    edited June 2015


    I'm betting we'll probably see Tulip 7 and Tank 7 before G3M comes out! :P

    Tulip ... I am voting for Tulip - that does sound nice!
    :)

    Tank somehow sounds male. ;)
    http://pngimg.com/img/weapons/tank

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  • jestmartjestmart Posts: 4,449
    edited December 1969

    If DAZ is hoping to reach a broader professional market with the Genesis 3s then they will need to change their marketing and that means G3M and Michael 7 had better show up soon and not DAZ soon.

  • almahiedraalmahiedra Posts: 1,367
    edited June 2015

    Kerya said:

    I'm betting we'll probably see Tulip 7 and Tank 7 before G3M comes out! :P

    Tulip ... I am voting for Tulip - that does sound nice!
    :)

    Tank somehow sounds male. ;)
    http://pngimg.com/img/weapons/tank

    It is evidence that G3 must have both sexes in one base figure...Tulip are hermaphrodite :coolgrin:

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  • RCDescheneRCDeschene Posts: 2,816
    edited December 1969

    gilikshe said:
    Kerya said:

    I'm betting we'll probably see Tulip 7 and Tank 7 before G3M comes out! :P

    Tulip ... I am voting for Tulip - that does sound nice!
    :)

    Tank somehow sounds male. ;)
    http://pngimg.com/img/weapons/tank

    It is evidence that G3 must have both sexes in one base figure...Tulip are hermaphrodite :coolgrin:
    Yay! The return of G1 technology! If a tulip base figure could do that, that would really be some flower power! :)

  • edited August 2015

    I'm a little confused, I just downloaded Daz 4.8 and I can't found neither female or male base. But, so there's not a male base? Just female??
    PS: I'm asking, because I saw somewhere that it should have both male and female base.

    Post edited by PAULOPAUZUDO_7af009a252 on
  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,704

    There is no gen3 male base released yet. Probably around october. Daz reps have said there is a gen 2 male or two to be released first.

  • Well, thanks Serene... I'm gonna try to find something...!

  • DarkSpartanDarkSpartan Posts: 1,096
    Estroyer said:

    I found these images on the Genesis 3 page.
    Looks like they are Michael 7!

    You wouldn't happen to have a link to this? It's not on any of the pages I can find.

  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,704
    edited August 2015

    Thanks for posting that! I am happy. yesThe head looks less thin and weird than m6 and those pecs are an improvement over gen 2 male!

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  • BeeMKayBeeMKay Posts: 7,019

    I wouldn't bet my money on that. These images were done with DS4.7.

  • JUJUJUJU Posts: 1,133

    I think that could be G3M but I don't think that is M7 ;)

     

  • Male-M3diaMale-M3dia Posts: 3,584

    Thanks for posting that! I am happy. yesThe head looks less thin and weird than m6 and those pecs are an improvement over gen 2 male!

    That's still G2M.

  • JD_MortalJD_Mortal Posts: 760
    jestmart said:

    If DAZ is hoping to reach a broader professional market with the Genesis 3s then they will need to change their marketing and that means G3M and Michael 7 had better show up soon and not DAZ soon.

    They are not... Professionals are professionals and don't use assets like this. They use models based of actual humans, scans that are Build-Unics, not Negative-morphing, which NEVER works... You can't UNDO compound complex forms back into base-forms... (Deflate a surface into a flat-surface, using simple reverse-form decompression.) You can, however, use complex form inflation to create any complex form, from a flat base form, and just undo THAT to get back to the base-form. However, these are sculpted objects that are sculpted form comical-exaggerated forms of what an artist thinks a human looks like... Without retaining the "strokes" that formed the flat-bases into the complex shapes, there is no way possible to calculate all the fractional sub-components that led to those deformations.

    EG, you can't undo abs and breasts and shoulders, to get "undefined" forms. However, you can easily take a UNIC undefined form and form it into any "defined" form, as long as there is enough original polygons or adaptive polygons to handle the "positive construction modification".

    That is where daz's biggest issue lies. They try to cheat the issue by using smoothing and code to detect those issues, but it detects and smooths the non-issues in the process, leaving us with California-raisin models when we attempt to "get normal or reduced breasts" as it tries to UNDO the 40+ curved surfaces that formed it, with one curved globe and irons to hammer-out the wrinkles, which leaves raisin-waves of deformities...

    Same with face components. They should have a generic head, with NO form other than the overall minimum faceless shape. Then all "protrusions" and "sink-holes" should be the modifications, which can all be done more or less, to get the desired target. Instead of building a form that has too much detail to start-off with, and trying to expand or undo that form.

    All these years of morphing, and this is still an issue.

    We need 1 core per version. (That contains the "technology" not the form, other than the most basic "minimum". Which honestly should be a newborn form, as all life DEVELOPS into the adult form, and elder form, from that base. You can't undo an adult to reduce years of refinement by simple negative-modifiers, but you can keep adding modifiers to simulate age growth and refinement.)

    Since they don't do that, we end-up with ten core models by them, and 100 by others, and little support beyond each new creation/version. But the deforming modifications keep stacking. With that one model, none of that would ever be an issue. The only issue would be, more detail, and we can do that now, easily. We can't remove detail easily, without severe issues resulting.

    I find it funny that M6 is a better model than V6... They should make the men first, because the second one they make, of the two, in every set, is better... Like they learned something, then didn't reproduce that issue in the paired late-model.

    I am just waiting for bone-linking, so we can get real articulation that actually simulates real bones and motion. True ball-joints with pop-out, like bones do... Saddle-joints for knees and thumbs and elbows... and dual-bone "twisting" rotation, as fore-arms and lower legs doo... Oh, and real spine movement, complete with realistic operating rib-flexing, not tin-can bending and two-bone spines... (Well, five partial spine segments.) Oh, and muscle-flex, and per-axis weight-mapping, and bump-linked flex-mods... to simulate things like fist-flesh expanding and contracting where there are no bones in the hands and feet, wrist-tendons, foot-tendons, arm-pits, eye-folds that are not so 3D-exaggerated, forehead wrinkles, dimples we can move around the flesh, knuckle and elbow wrinkles that only adults and elders have exaggerated.)

    Just a few things...

  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,704

    Thanks for posting that! I am happy. yesThe head looks less thin and weird than m6 and those pecs are an improvement over gen 2 male!

    That's still G2M.

    Aww, shoot. =-(

     

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