Medieval Market Stall01: more fitting vegetables?
maikdecker
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Could we get for the Medieval Market Stall01 maybe get some more fitting vegetables, instead of Butternut Squish and Potatoes, which were - afaik - only available in the americas in medieval times?!? How about some Onions, Carrots, Cabbages etc - any stuff that would fit on a Medieval Market in europe... which is where most of the medieval times happened
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Oh, though do remember that carrots weren't orange during that time, but rather some off-white.
Carrots came in a lot of colors, not just off-white.
True, there were already purple, yellow, light pink, brown and light green ones as well. But the edible orange ones are a cultivated race, dating just over 400 years back. Before that period, in the medieval times, the commonly cultivated root-vegetables were turnip, parsnip and celery root.
Not to forget Mangle Wurzel. (Away from Somerset people may know it as 'Kale' or 'Leaf Beet'.) And Swede was around in Mediaeval times. There was 'Sparrow Grass' (Asparagus) too, but not in large quantities. Sure there'd be nuts (especially Cob/Hazel Nuts) too. Hedgrow fruits - such as Blackberry, RoseHip, Damson, Quince, Blackthorn Haws, Elder Berries, Sloes, though not all at the same time.
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Richard
pulses such as lentils, beans, peas etc often dried you soaked were popular too, including the more animal feed types like lupins, and to buy to plant like Jack in the Beanstalk did.
Millers and Bakers figured greatly in markets too, flour and bread was a staple
Never mind the veg.
Those medieval pot decorators were ahead of their time
Okay, despite all the criticism, I do think it's a nice set, and in general, I don't really care too much about "realism" to such a degree anyway. Yes, they're actually more something you'd find at a medieval-themed market than what you'd find at a medieval market. But, the general public NEVER notices these details untill some nitpick raises hell about it and starts complaining about "immuhrshuuuhn", which is something that has nothing to do with realism anyway. If the stalls and contents as they are sold are not to someone's standards, then they're still pretty useful for kitbashing. Just replace the veggies and containers (odd how nobody mentioned the crates), and you're good!
That's exactly what I thought when I saw these potatoes and pumpkins - they were the reason I didn't buy the bundle. If at least oranges would have been there - they were brought from Asia to Europe in the 13th century...
I was wondering about what was in there. I couldn't get images to open and right now with allergies, my eyes are swollen and everything is blurry. But, there are scads of medieval prop sets with veggies or containers you can add.
Also, why limit yourself to only keeping the set in a European medieval render, but take it into a future, dystopian, or an alien planet setting?
where are the other prop sets? here at DAZ?
I actually don't know of any fitting vegetables unless the pumpkin head counts
there is a fitting fruit, a banana suit
These products can fill in your missing items:
hanging onion braid
https://www.daz3d.com/medieval-shop
Carrots
https://www.daz3d.com/gatwyck-marketplace
Cabbage filled basket
https://www.daz3d.com/medieval-market
Geez. It's threads like this that point out that users need to learn a modeing app. It's a great looking set and it's really sad that a user might not purchase it because of the "type" of food that is included, not the quality, but the "type"!?.
yeah its like dude how about just download free photogrammetry vegetables from any number of online resouces and add that stuff to the scene yourself.
The hard part is actually putting together the stalls etc, which vendor did. And they look pretty good.
the hard part is finding them free. howe many say free in a search until you get there
Whether or not it is a deal breaker is up to the individual purchaser or non-purchaser, but there is nothing wrong with pointing out anachronisms in something that appears to be pitched as a model of a real world scene associated with a (broad) time and place.
Historically correct or not, it's a beautiful set. Those potatoes made me swoon. I don't even do fantasy or medieval renders but couldn't resist. Wouldn't say no to a cabbage add-on either. :)
That's my experience too. Working links would be handy.
I don't know whether it is a form of OCD or mere pedantism but anachronistic props would be a no-no for me too. If I know about it, it would bug me and I would have to fix it.
Those little things bug me too...but it is a gorgeous set and it put it in my wishlist. If I was arting more I'd buy it right away, but it seems like I always buy sets and never use them because all my artowrk is portraits, lol.
(And who is to say that's not a market stall from the early colonial period in North America?)(Plus is would work for medieval fantasy no problem.)
There are just four words missing: MODERN PERCEPTION OF A medieval market stall. Then, it's a really fine set, and everybody knows that it doesn't try to show real medieval live. It's more of a showpiece for a reenactment market, with fruits and crates definitely NOT medieval, but it looks really nice.
They should of did a bit of research because Europe was so poor and destitute for so long they learned to practically squeeze water from a stone regarding native plant selection for food novelty and availability from their starved palates: e.g. cabbage, broccoli, kale, and brussels sprouts, are all the same species of plant and were selected for. Varieties of wheat, the same. The product could of been much more interesting to us buyers.
Technically, the "discovery" of the Americas marked the end of the medieval period.
Yes, but just because it has "Medieval" in the name doesn't mean it needs to be used as such.
Yes, but this is a thread about pedantry, so I'm just giving the people what they want.
Not just foodstuffs, but many suitable items: Medieval Merchants House Props
Well, there is always the possibility the Vikings took back some foodstuffs with them when they returned from North America in 1021AD.
And looking for props, search on 'Medieval' in the store and a slew of sets show up that have quite a few items that could be added into that scene, from old to new PAs.
By adding those odd bits, you make it your own.
lol if you cant find something free on sketchfab or artstation you need to go back to internet school
omg this was so hard
"medieval" is basically synonymous (as far as people searching for props are concerned) for "fantasy" so for those people doing medieval fantasy it's not anachronistic
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Thank you, Stoic and NorthOf45. I hope these sets will be available in some sale soon.
Faveral is always great, of course; too bad you see their work here so rarely lately.