My "environment" tab in Render Settings is missing

Hi community,

I am very new to DAZ. I have done 2 or 3 learning renders with more or less beautiful results.

However - I bought a nice HDRI city package here in the official DAZ-store to set up fast scenes with nice lighting. At least that was my idea.
I read a lot on how to use them, watched some vids and I even managed to find the new HDRI set in my smart content menu.
However, double clicking it shows no results.
I guess that's because I don't have activated the dome an scene (had to deactivate it for one of the lighting tutorials, so already used it and I know this option is somewhere...)
Now I don't find this option in render settings anymore. I don't find the Environment-drop down menu. There is no Dome and Scene option and I have no idea how to turn it back on.
If anybody had the same issues or has an idea how to solve it, please help me! Or maybe I am doing the HDRI thing completely wrong? I am out of ideas.

I am kinda desperate right now. 



 

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Comments

  • margravemargrave Posts: 1,822

    You need to add an Environment/Tonemapper node from the Create menu. Or you can just switch to Iray preview, which will create them automatically.

    They only changed this with DS 4.14, I believe, so if you're watching an older tutorial it's outdated.

  • to add to margrave's suggestion, you can also just push the render button.

    Also, loading any render preset will also load them.

     

    I'd suggest setting up an empty scene with the default render settings loaded and save that as a new scene, then use that as the default(startup) scene and new scene in preferences.

    Menu>Preferences(F2)>Startup(tab) and Scene(tab).

    Set "On new" load file to the newly created scene for the scene tab.

    Set "On Launch" load file to the same.

     

     

     

  • villko05villko05 Posts: 9
    edited May 21

    Why they mess with these settings??
    All assets that affected "render-settings" are broken. They no longer load presets.

    Post edited by villko05 on
  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 107,953

    Create the nodes (Create menu or just use Iray), then apply the presets

  • villko05villko05 Posts: 9
    edited May 21

    That's the thing. It does not work. Only the render settings are retained, while the environment and tone options are not.

    I can load older scenes and save environment/tone settings into savedata and that would work. But issue remains with assets that apply render settings and environment/tonemapper options. They don't transfer environment/tonemapper options into new scenes done with 4.24 daz.

    Assets separate "Iray Render Presets" no longer works.

    Post edited by villko05 on
  • barbultbarbult Posts: 26,205

    You might be experiencing a problem that I run into frequently these days. I don't know what causes it, but even though the Render Settings Engine shows NVIDIA Iray (MDL) it doesn't really work right. Applying any HDRI Render Preset does not change the Environment Map in the Render Settings. The workaround I discovered is to change the Engine to something else and then immediately change it back to NVIDIA Iray (MDL). Then applying the Render Preset works fine, just like usual. I am having this problem in DS 4.24.0.3.

  • jmucchiellojmucchiello Posts: 611

    barbult said:

    You might be experiencing a problem that I run into frequently these days. I don't know what causes it, but even though the Render Settings Engine shows NVIDIA Iray (MDL) it doesn't really work right. Applying any HDRI Render Preset does not change the Environment Map in the Render Settings. The workaround I discovered is to change the Engine to something else and then immediately change it back to NVIDIA Iray (MDL). Then applying the Render Preset works fine, just like usual. I am having this problem in DS 4.24.0.3.

    I had this issue in 4.23 with a lot of MartinFrost HDRIs purchased recently. (Older ones worked fine.) I'll have to revisit this when my current queue is done. 

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 26,205
    Did you ever come to a conclusion about the cause of the problem?
  • lilweeplilweep Posts: 2,746

    usually if i just start iray preview it comes back

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 26,205

    lilweep said:

    usually if i just start iray preview it comes back

    Starting Iray preview will load the Environmant Options and Tonemapper Options into the scene. After that, do render settings presets corrercty load an HDRI, when the same render settings presets didn't work before you started Iray preview? 

  • lilweeplilweep Posts: 2,746

    barbult said:

    lilweep said:

    usually if i just start iray preview it comes back

    Starting Iray preview will load the Environmant Options and Tonemapper Options into the scene. After that, do render settings presets corrercty load an HDRI, when the same render settings presets didn't work before you started Iray preview? 

    yes so maybe different issue

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 26,205

    lilweep said:

    barbult said:

    lilweep said:

    usually if i just start iray preview it comes back

    Starting Iray preview will load the Environmant Options and Tonemapper Options into the scene. After that, do render settings presets corrercty load an HDRI, when the same render settings presets didn't work before you started Iray preview? 

    yes so maybe different issue

    Or maybe another solution to the same issue.  I'll try it next time that "HDRI is not loaded" situation happens to me. 

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