Daz 3D is part of 
Connect
DAZ Productions, Inc.
7533 S Center View Ct #4664
West Jordan, UT 84084
Licensing Agreement | Terms of Service | Privacy Policy | EULA
© 2025 Daz Productions Inc. All Rights Reserved.
Comments
The number of submissions made me wonder about the "success" of the SP. But maybe the majority of SP buyers didn't participate in the contest? Must have been one hell of a silent majority. I wouldn't consider selling 50 passes a success, but maybe Daz set the bar really low.
Well, I got the pass and didn't participate in the contest, so I can imagine more people doing the same and hence not being a very good measure of how much it sold, if that's what you are pointing at. o.o
There's no way to tell exactly how many submissions there were, is there? If you are going by the Season Pass category, note that some SPers submitted more than once; since people were allowed only one entry, it may be there was even less than 26. Who knows? It was pretty opaque to me.
I've been working with contest sites for a while now dating back to Worth1000 and trust me, in current times if you can get 26 people to enter a contest you are doing really really well.
I tried---at the last minute---to participate in the contest, but I was thwarted by the gallery hashtag category debacle; so, I'm not counting my entry among the 26. Perhaps there were many more like me. But in the words of Roger Daltrey, "We won't get fooled again!"
To be pedantic, they were Pete Townshend's words!
As a fellow pedant, I gratefully stand corrected. Thank you, dear sir.
I am aware. And I'm not even sure it applies like it used to. V4 era, maybe. V8 era? Maybe some want a little more variation. After all, the store can't ALL be female. And the males for 8.1 so far are beyond disappointing. Mike 8.1 looks like a toon and I haven't seen a good character for 8.1 male yet.
What about Torment? I know they are technically nonbinary, but they look really masculine to me and I find them to be very attractive and well made. If they are not your cuppa tea, that's cool too. I am just wondering if you forgot about them.
I do wish there were more guys and male clothes. I have mountains of female stuff and have mostly been buying stuff for the men lately to make up for it.
Getting new people in is the most likely the primary focus. After a certain point, users have enough content that it becomes repetitious or their skills have advanced enough that they don't use things directly as they come from the vendor or they don't see the return on investment. Users eventually get to a point where they say "How many pretty white women do I need in my library?" - especially if this is just a hobby.
Ok, I'll give you that one. I do kinda like him ;).
@AllenArt Have you considered Torment 8.1? Nevermind the name/demon/pronoun bollocks and the albino eyebrows, his morph and skin are among the best of this generation, in my opinion, of course. Dain, Nix, Dasan, Floyd, Kwan, Vladimir, Edward would be on my list of best, with possibly Juan Carlos, Holt, & Kjaer added.
I do have Torment...lol. One of the last things I bought here. I do like him...he's worlds better than Mike 8.1 for sure ;). And I love Nix, Dasan, Floyd, Ollie, Edward, Holt, Diego, Leroy, Valentino - but my favorite will ALWAYS be Christian ;).
I am really looking forward to the Jay Versluis tutorial.
I'm hoping it's LIVE. Never know what good information I can pick up and improve upon!! He has a really interesting resume.
I'll be seeing all you there I hope!!!
Yes, Mike was a huge disappointment to me, but his skin is pretty good.
Sorry for duplicating your question, @certaintree38, I must have a slow feed.
Yes, even in the V8 era you can trust money to be the case. At the very least that female content is still selling well, if not PAs would not be making it. Would male stuff sell better than before? Maybe. Would sell well enough to now make up for the time worked on it? As someone dabbling in making clothes in MD and porting them to Daz, I kind of doubt it.
In the end, this might be a hobby for many of you but certainly not for them and they kind of want to eat and pay bills, so your wallet will always speak louder. But also, it's really the majority's wallet. If you close it and it doesn't change...well... it sucks but you are most likely not in that group.
Quite frankly, if the PA's won't make it, Daz3D should be taking up the slack with male items. There's a reason these figures are popular for 3D pron, and all these incessant female-centric items just perpetuate that. But maybe Daz/Tafi/Whoever doesn't mind the rep ;).
My suggestion is for people to become pro-active about making male-centric pron, maybe especially for the ladies. If pron drives sales, make more pron!!! Makes me want to go make man candy... Not entirely sure if this will work, but it might be fun to try anyway.
At any rate, I'm going to go favorite a bunch of male character portraits on DA and here in the gallery.
If it's not as profitable, why would Daz take up the slack with it? I mean, it's not like they don't make any male content already, but why more than that if it's not as profitable? They, like the PAs, do this for a living. Really, imagine someone telling you to do something less profitable than what you are currently doing for a living because that's what they want and it's only in their best interest. Now, please lie to me saying you wouldn't flip them off, even if only in your head.
And though Daz has become a common tool for 3d pron, I'm sure it's not the only thing, or even the main thing, keeping Daz alive. I think I've read it's used for marketing/advertisement as well, and last I heard (though I'm no expert on the subject), white females are also predominant there as well.
I would be surprised if pron wasn't the driving force behind Daz's sales. My thoughts on this matter stem from the fact that 99% of the time that I see Daz "in the wild," it's 3d pron. Especially on Steam, where there are a lot of Daz assets in games, it's almost always pron related. I wish there was some way to find out for sure. But even if you asked people, they might be reluctant to tell the truth.
... but I like pr0n?
IMO, there's nothing wrong with that. That's where the market is? Then that's where the market is.
Of course, when it comes to "art"... I think there's a lot of Daz, but the pr0n art is a lot closer to raw renders (where you can clearly identify the characters as Daz figures) while the "artsy" art tends to use much more post-work and other assets to pull together an actual composed image rather than throwing bodies onto backgrounds for pr0n.
Another reason why I like to throw a little more post-work onto my stuff, I think.
(And, as I said, I like pr0n and pinups and all that... but to get an effective pr0n image? It's a different set of category in delivering the goods, and you don't necessarily need the full blown setup of an artsy fartsy piece.)
I am also a fan of postwork. I just think it can take your renders to the next level.
I do find it refreshing to come here and see all the non-pron renders though.
Well, I don't mind admitting I use it for pron. Was trying to make a SFW comic too but I didn't have enough time and most likely I'll use it for a board game's art too. Still, being in the "medium" I find it hard to believe it runs on that. It is probably a nice chunk but not the main driving force. Like Blurst mentioned, I don't think renders used for more "artsy" stuff like marketing or book covers would be as easy to notice.
For the moment, I'm really disapointed with the Season Pass, I'm not sure I'll take the next one (if it happens)...
Instead of receiving free characters + HD add-on, I would have prefered to get free Bundles or at least more discounts. For me, PC+ is a lot more interesting than Season Pass.
And yes, I agree with some previous comments about Pro bundles being more interesting than recent ones :(
I don't want THESE bundles. And I think Daz knows it. That COULD BE WHY they offered the Season Pass in the first place.
Well, got a new orange banner for owning a vicky 8.1 bundle. An extra discount for one of the Jacqueline 8.1 bundles (one or the other, not both), plus the SP discount, I can get a one of the bundles for 30$. At that price I'm considering getting the alternate reality bundle, all 3 outfits seem interesting (especially the western knight, looks like it is very well made with proper correctors), the hair seems nice and that freckled character looks pretty nice. Going to add it to the cart and sleep on it, mostly because the betty bot outfit is not very convincing with so few promos, making it a potential posing mess.
I'd gather most women have no interest in images of male models doing what is typically done with female models (judging from what I've seen on DeviantArt...and I know there are other sites out there for three-dee-pr0n). I can tell you that this woman would much rather read (or write) some good erotica over...that (I have followers on DA who do pr0n, and I don't mean to down it...it's just not for me...at least not in that style). In general, the male-centered gaze is typically a completely different animal than the female-centered gaze.
I can tell you that every time the topic of Daz3D has come up with other digital artists, the immediate assumption, if the artist even knows what Daz3D is, is that it's for pr0n. Every. Time.