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Does NFXstudios Farmhouse still make Daz crash?

SeraSera Posts: 1,675
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I am interested in the NFXstudios Farmhouse, but forum posts about it have mentioned that it makes systems crash a lot. Does this still happen, or has it been fixed? If anyone who owns it could check for me, I'd appreciate it. 

 

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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,664

    no idea but I have rendered animations of it in Carrara, iClone and Twinmotionwink

    I will have to test it as only exported it from DAZ studio

  • SeraSera Posts: 1,675

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    no idea but I have rendered animations of it in Carrara, iClone and Twinmotionwink

    I will have to test it as only exported it from DAZ studio

    Thanks! 

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,664
    edited March 2021

    OK am on my Win7 PC without a graphics card!!!

    (my Nvidia rig is in use)

    and can move around the viewport with iray enabled, yes grainy as F but it actually renders with onboard intel graphics

    it is now rendering fine in a new window but I would not expect it to reach convergence before tomorrow on this PC! laugh

    I stopped because my CPU hit 99C

    Filament it is perfectly fine realtime

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  • SeraSera Posts: 1,675

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    OK am on my Win7 PC without a graphics card!!!

    (my Nvidia rig is in use)

    and can move around the viewport with iray enabled, yes grainy as F but it actually renders with onboard intel graphics

    it is now rendering fine in a new window but I would not expect it to reach convergence before tomorrow on this PC! laugh

    I stopped because my CPU hit 99C

    Filament it is perfectly fine realtime

    lol!!! Awesome. Thanks for your help. laugh

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,664
    edited March 2021

    oh and that temperature expected on this rig with iray, I would normally use 3Delight on it or Filament

    or mostly NOT DAZ studio wink

    and BTW the crashes were with 3Delight AoA lights

    thx DAZ_DEALS
    https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/54093/

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  • SeraSera Posts: 1,675

    Good to know. yes

  • NorthOf45NorthOf45 Posts: 5,771

    Still crashes with 3DL sometimes, even using just the headlamp, no fancy lights. Crashed the first time I loaded it with a wide view of the whole set, but later it was stable. Most interior camera angles seem okay, but I can repeat the crash looking towards the front door from the living room. Hiding the "First Floor South Wall" prevents the crash. Hiding the parts attached to it makes no difference. I've narrowed it down to the light switch next to the door. Doesn't crash if the light switch isn't in the render. Crashes if only the light switch is in the render. Hide the geometry for the light switch and plate, no more crash. Any more light switches in this place? Plenty, but not that double one. It has the wrong displacement map, but so does the single light switch, and it renders okay. So, hiding that light switch at the front door cures the crash, as far as I can tell. Can't make it happen anymore. Tried it with DT Advanced Light presets (AoA Advanced lights) and DAZ Dimension lights (uberEnvironment2 + Distant light), no problem.

  • SeraSera Posts: 1,675
    NorthOf45 said:

    Still crashes with 3DL sometimes.... I've narrowed it down to the light switch next to the door.

    Interesting. I only use Iray, so I should be ok.

  • NorthOf45NorthOf45 Posts: 5,771

    certaintree38 said:

    NorthOf45 said:

    Still crashes with 3DL sometimes.... I've narrowed it down to the light switch next to the door.

    Interesting. I only use Iray, so I should be ok.

    Sure, but there are some people who have been waiting SIX YEARS for a solution (if they still care). There's never been an update, so now they can make a simple change that will take less than five minutes to do and have their Farmhouse back. I don't know WHY it happens, but this will cure it at the expense of a missing light switch.

  • Sven DullahSven Dullah Posts: 7,621

    NorthOf45 said:

    certaintree38 said:

    NorthOf45 said:

    Still crashes with 3DL sometimes.... I've narrowed it down to the light switch next to the door.

    Interesting. I only use Iray, so I should be ok.

    Sure, but there are some people who have been waiting SIX YEARS for a solution (if they still care). There's never been an update, so now they can make a simple change that will take less than five minutes to do and have their Farmhouse back. I don't know WHY it happens, but this will cure it at the expense of a missing light switch.

    Tks North! Hmm it's funny because I've owned and used that house for a long time without a single crash, must have managed to miss that light switch all the time. Maybe now that I'm aware of the issue I get crasheslaugh, have to zoom in on that switch and see what happensenlightened. Very interesting indeed!

  • Sven DullahSven Dullah Posts: 7,621

    ...and can confirm zooming in on that switch is a bad idea...

  • TheKDTheKD Posts: 2,711

    That single light switch must have been made with a boolean that divided by zero to get the mesh. At least it only crashes daz studio, and not the whole universe. But who knows, everytime someone attempts a render, they may be imploding distant stars.

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,664

    I will need to investigate this in Carrara vertex roomcheeky

  • SevrinSevrin Posts: 6,314

    If Daz QA has been working on this for 6 years, that would explain the lack of rigour in the testing of other stuff in the store.

  • Sven DullahSven Dullah Posts: 7,621
    edited March 2021

    ...so here it is in all its glory...

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    I removed the wrong displacement maps to rule that out, set up an AoA spotlight + basic ambient occlusion. My brief testing shows that DS crashes with or without the AO, but renders in progressive mode. Did not try the standard DS lights yet. Might put in a ticket, as the fact that rendering in progressive mode works should give a hint about what's going on here.

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  • Sven DullahSven Dullah Posts: 7,621

    But who knows, everytime someone attempts a render, they may be imploding distant stars.

    Yeah where there's an action there is a reaction, but what if nobody is around to witness the process?

    I will need to investigate this in Carrara vertex roomcheeky

    If you do, please share your findingsyes.

    If Daz QA has been working on this for 6 years, that would explain the lack of rigour in the testing of other stuff in the store.

    Hmm...might not file that ticket after allfrown

  • SeraSera Posts: 1,675
    LOL.... Just lol.
  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,664
    edited March 2021

    that UV mapping is nuts

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  • Spacewarper7Spacewarper7 Posts: 190

    I was using this product jus fine using 3Delight during all this time you folks were discussing this; never had a problem with it. Now trying to use it for the first time in  about a year )pretty sure it was only a year, not four or five) and now it promptly crashes every time I try to insert it into a scene or open a scene that already has the farmhouse in to. No idea why it's giving me trouble NOW and never did during all this time it was creatinbg problems for everyone else. Now if I only figure out how to use the cure that has been discussed - which I am afraid a tech dunce like me does not follow at all -so I can use it again. I never use Iray; as I cannot seem to get it to work in any reasonable time frame whereas most 3Delight scenes take less than a minute to render.

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,664

    maybe if you can remove that light switch? possibly has a dsf file

    I cannot look right now

  • memcneil70memcneil70 Posts: 5,704

    I just tried the set on my MacMiniM4 with OS Tahoe 26.4 and Daz Studio 4.24.0.4 and was able to load the farmhouse and had another set for a ground/background and render it. The only issue I ran into was sluggish movement to get a decent camera view. I finally just took the best shot I could and said heck with it. It rendered without issue. I hadn't updated the original materials but used the Iray render engine.

    Not sure if that helps at all, but Macs are finicky as all get out with Daz Studio so if it was going to crash, I thought it would but it didn't.

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