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Wheels are ROUND

alanthompson9187alanthompson9187 Posts: 134
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Why is that so many products do have round wheels, not matter how many sub divisions or surface changes i make, the whells still look HEXAGONAL, this so dispointing so frustrating and dam right anoying trying to get a whhel to natulay look ROUND as it shoulod be, i have tried the roundness, smoothnes, radius, and evything to get a round wheel to point i have feel i have to delete the object , it's as though the content creator really dosn't give a flying boot about whells that should be ROUND. Is DAZ not botherd about the content it provides to its customers, that might be a harsh thing to say as most of the products are exceptional, but come on WHEELS ARE ROUND and not Hexagonal, and for me DAZ should be teeling its vendors the same before they sell the product, even if its a free product.

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  • PerttiAPerttiA Posts: 10,024

    Essentially that is the result of working with 3D mesh, all you have is points in space and straight lines between those points.

    I think rectangular wheels would be better as you wouldn't need a handbrake to keep the car in place wink

  • mwokeemwokee Posts: 1,275
    A great many products are designed to look just fine when printed in a one inch square section of a comic book page. Someone like me who creates 2D art that needs to print poster size images, I pretty much stay away from older products and have learned certain things to look for in promo images. For example, I can use lots of sky backgrounds and in even small promo pictures I can see pixelation and know they won't work when blown up to 6k or 8k pixels in length. I'm amazed what PAs can do with 3D and frustrated with PAs who have no frikken clue what "print ready" art is.
  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,331

    I find it odd smoothing groups don't work, I can smooth jagged edges easily in Carrara, iClone and Blender, I am only guessing there is something we are overlooking in D|S as it should do it too.

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 108,735

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    I find it odd smoothing groups don't work, I can smooth jagged edges easily in Carrara, iClone and Blender, I am only guessing there is something we are overlooking in D|S as it should do it too.

    Convert to SubD, then use edge weights (through the Geometry Editor in edge selection mode) to sharpen the edges you don't want smoothed..

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 108,735

    alanthompson9187 said:

    Why is that so many products do have round wheels, not matter how many sub divisions or surface changes i make, the whells still look HEXAGONAL, this so dispointing so frustrating and dam right anoying trying to get a whhel to natulay look ROUND as it shoulod be, i have tried the roundness, smoothnes, radius, and evything to get a round wheel to point i have feel i have to delete the object , it's as though the content creator really dosn't give a flying boot about whells that should be ROUND. Is DAZ not botherd about the content it provides to its customers, that might be a harsh thing to say as most of the products are exceptional, but come on WHEELS ARE ROUND and not Hexagonal, and for me DAZ should be teeling its vendors the same before they sell the product, even if its a free product.

    SubD should work, as long as you have the item selected. Whata re roundness and smoothness settings you are using? Those are not SubD properties. in any event I would doubt many items, even quite old items, have only six segments to a tyre.

  • alanthompson9187alanthompson9187 Posts: 134

    I using both the subd and the suface editor, but i noted you mention edge weight through the geomerty editor, learn some new evry day, i will give that a try, thank you.

  • alanthompson9187alanthompson9187 Posts: 134

    How completley and utterly stupid can I be, I feel like I just ran a race after the race was run 10 years ago, feel absolutley thick ( ok i know most of you will now agree ) but i thought the subd section was alreday part of the prop as theer is a section for the subd in the parameters tab, I was using this untill i just realised that it was grayed out even though i could change the values and take of the limits, only to find you still have to apply the subd for them to become active, so I now have to Hide under the table , eat humble pipe, and appoligize for my rant about vendors and props, ( and now I know most of you will rolling around in laughter . and yes i cannot spell either, or is that ither ). One click and the issue all sorted, guess I will now hide away before coming back to the forum so that people can forget the stupid one(and hoply not rember I posted this).

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    if wheels werent round , the ride would be bumpy

    in poser terminology, think i twas called the crease angle

  • Sven DullahSven Dullah Posts: 7,621

    Now I want a car with square wheels...

  • hjakehjake Posts: 1,295
    edited February 2021

    I am not sure I see what the problem is?

    image-source:https://go.discovery.com/tv-shows/mythbusters/videos/the-buster-awards-square-wheels/

     

     

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  • Sven DullahSven Dullah Posts: 7,621

    hjake said:

    I am not sure I see what the problem is?

    image-source:https://go.discovery.com/tv-shows/mythbusters/videos/the-buster-awards-square-wheels/

     

     

    The problem is vendors are too lazy to add square wheel morphs to their products...hell I will never again buy a car model that only has round wheelsangry

  • DAZ_RawbDAZ_Rawb Posts: 817

    Square wheels aren't a problem, as long as you build your roads properly: 

     

    And, seeing how some roads look after a harsh winter, I'm curious if some road planners are trying to get us to switch to square wheels.

  • AscaniaAscania Posts: 1,855

    It's time for a sing-along, I think.

     

    The wheels at DAZ go round and round,

    Round and round,

    Round and round

  • hjakehjake Posts: 1,295
    edited February 2021

    DAZ_Rawb said:

    Square wheels aren't a problem, as long as you build your roads properly: 

    And, seeing how some roads look after a harsh winter, I'm curious if some road planners are trying to get us to switch to square wheels.

     

     

    very cool.... as long as your only turning left wink

     

    ooohhh  .... and another thing i realized besides wheels being round is that water is wet.

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  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 12,160
    edited February 2021

    Sven Dullah said:

    Now I want a car with square wheels...

    Would perfectly well if you had a cycloid shaped road surface of the right frequency.enlightened 

    Post edited by LeatherGryphon on
  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,175
    edited February 2021

    On a serious note, I kinda know how the OP feels, even tho it should be easily fixable with subD (although in some cases subD makes older models look horrible). It's probably the main reason I make my own models higher resolution than they should be - I just can't STAND seeing model faceting, but I DO appreciate a modeler taking the time to keep the resolution as low as possible. Unfortunately it goes both ways - too high res or too low. :P

    Laurie

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  • BendinggrassBendinggrass Posts: 1,380

    A good reason to make flying cars.

  • SempieSempie Posts: 659

    I guess you need nurbs rather than polygons to get real round shapes. Nothing that DS supports.

  • BarzoffBarzoff Posts: 104

    DAZ_Rawb said:

    Square wheels aren't a problem, as long as you build your roads properly: 

     

    And, seeing how some roads look after a harsh winter, I'm curious if some road planners are trying to get us to switch to square wheels.

     

    Well, at least, you don't need parking brake.laugh

  • PaintboxPaintbox Posts: 1,633

    Sempie said:

    I guess you need nurbs rather than polygons to get real round shapes. Nothing that DS supports.

    That's a long time ago I heard about nurbs. Nurbs.

  • Sven DullahSven Dullah Posts: 7,621
    edited February 2021

    LeatherGryphon said:

    Sven Dullah said:

    Now I want a car with square wheels...

    Would perfectly well if you had a cycloid shaped road surface of the right frequency.enlightened 

    That would reduce braking distances considerably. enlightenedenlightened

    Post edited by Sven Dullah on
  • FirstBastionFirstBastion Posts: 8,050

    Hovercrafts, man,  them the future.  Where we're going we don't need wheels.

  • McGyverMcGyver Posts: 7,085

    FirstBastion said:

    Hovercrafts, man,  them the future.  Where we're going we don't need wheels.

    The way things are going... boats is the future. Where we're going we can't have wheels.

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,331

    yeah in Carrara I would just whack in some splines yes

    they either export pretty jagged too as obj or very highpoly

  • ZyloxZylox Posts: 787

    McGyver said:

    FirstBastion said:

    Hovercrafts, man,  them the future.  Where we're going we don't need wheels.

    The way things are going... boats is the future. Where we're going we can't have wheels.

    Who knew this song would become the literal truth?

  • LorraineLorraine Posts: 919

    McGyver said:

    FirstBastion said:

    Hovercrafts, man,  them the future.  Where we're going we don't need wheels.

    The way things are going... boats is the future. Where we're going we can't have wheels.

    Those of us who live on boats nod and check the bilges.

  • hjakehjake Posts: 1,295

    lorraineopua said:

    McGyver said:

    FirstBastion said:

    Hovercrafts, man,  them the future.  Where we're going we don't need wheels.

    The way things are going... boats is the future. Where we're going we can't have wheels.

    Those of us who live on boats nod and check the bilges.

    Venice is a truly futuristic city. Time to get my Gondolas license.

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