Supersuit 2 for Gen 2?
XpiderMan
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Hello, I'm new to Daz3d and was wondering if anyone knows if there are plans for Supersuit for Genesis 2 similar (or better) that what is available for Genesis. I know I could use the current Supersuit and fit it to a Genesis 2 figure, but I don't want to buy it if a new version is coming out soon. Thanks!
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You mean the Supersuit Pro Suite? I remember hearing some time after G2F & V6's launch that DAZ did have plans for an official one, but there wasn't any indication that there would be any Pro-tier bundles for it. Though, all of this was last year and there really hasn't been any word on it since.
However, the3dwizard has a couple of Genesis 2 Catsuits that been in the queue for quite a while now. So, you might want to nag him about that (because we sure as hell have been :) ).
Thanks for the reply, RCDeschene. And yes, I meant the Genesis Supersuit (sorry I misspelled suit as suite). :red: I read that the Genesis Supersuit has some bugs that were never fixed, so I was hoping that with G2, those would be fixed and new features would be available.
And the catsuit sound as an interesting option for a G2 female!
Greetings,
Mmmm...I *think* all the Genesis SuperSuit issues were...ironed out. :) I think there was a UV issue in the Basic Suit that took until earlier this year to finally fix.
I...don't know if I should share this, but it's from the3dwizard's public thread so... You could take a look at: https://www.dropbox.com/s/hm0se5v588lz16n/UltraBodysuit-for-G2F-user-guide-v04.pdf
It's pretty freaking amazing. His last post is from July. I'm a little worried, because he's been working on it in one form or another since around January. That's...a long time to be working on one product. It's unlikely to have a Pro/starter bundle, but it probably will be a bit expensive...I can't imagine it won't after the amount of work he's put into it.
-- Morgan
No problem! :)
@Cyberfox: That's the thread I linked him too. Although, you do have a point. Perhaps this one might even be up there with Sickle Yield & Marieah's Morphing Suit/Tux Bundles. Though, he hasn't really said anything about special add-ons, so I doubt it will be as expensive as a $44 - $55 bundle.
Here's the problem:
i can load supersuit on gen2 and autofit runs quite happily.
but
autofit ALSO deletes all of supersuit's morphs when fitting it to Gen 2.
Which is annoying.
the only thing it leaves is a single morph that allows supersuit to get bigger (thicker) or not.
So...
Any possibility there could either be a Supersuit 2 sometime soon or a package that would allow a supersuit autofitted to Gen 2 to regain the morphs that the supersuit has?
Thanks for the replies and insight, everyone. As much as I want to buy the Supersuit, I think I'm going to wait for a while for the Gen2 version.
I asked the same question a few days ago... Here is the response from some awesome members.
http://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/46134/
I didn't know it wouldn't keep the morphs when fitting to Gen 2, though. :long:
Try using the transfer tool instead of auto fit. It should keep the morphs.
Also I have the supersuit and I use the M4 bodysuit instead. The supersuit was overcomplicated, bloated, hard to support by PAs and the shaders made it DS-specific... Not to mention it was pushed out by people that are no longer at DAZ, so I'm doubting they will make a mistake like that suit again.
Male-M3dia, are you saying there are no plans to make a Supersuit for Generation 2 or that there are no plans of making the same errors that the Supersuit for Gen 1 had? Thanks.
I don't think that is what Male-M3dia is saying. I think he is just trying to provide you with a workaround in case no one knows for some time.
the supersuit works perfectly well autofitted on G2M & F as it uses morphs not bones for its shaping and is very conforming, I have had no issues with it.
.....Just wish more new presets would be released utilizing more of its versatile features like underwear, casual ordinary clothes like jeans and tanks etc
I don't think the supersuit was a mistake in any way its amazingly useful and versatile, a lot of work must have gone into it and I'm surprised to see a vendor here knocking the work of others.
The 3DWizard has a suit in the works that seems to have a lot of functionality to it from what I last read it has already been submitted so hopefully it will be released this month during the PA sale.
MOD EDIT: Threads merged to keep the information in one place since they were identical topics.
Greetings,
I think the biggest problem was that DAZ_Rand left DAZ almost right after the supersuit release, and so there wasn't anyone pushing the Idea and product afterwards. I feel like there's drama there we don't know about.
I will say that the volume of shaders, and the wacky things you could do with them, may have done a lot to push shaders into the DAZ market consciousness...
-- Morgan
It was pushed out during the fatal changeover of the store to Magento (which was decided by people no longer at Daz, I know) - the timing was terrible!
Buying was nearly impossible and everybody was worried about their accounts and not interested in buying new things.
That said: Daz3d DOES have some content in their drawers, because I have seen not yet existant products readmes in the documentation center for the Supersuit.
Auto-Fit has been able to maintain clothing morphs for several versions now, it is just they end up being hidden if you don't have Show Hidden checked.
Once in a while I really have to agree with Male-M3dia, I didn't like the supersuit very much, either. Although it had a lot of potential, it just got sidetracked too much, imho. Still, the supersuit shaders that came with it are one of the best shader packs I have in my entire library and I use them regularly.
I hope there will be a more worthy successor, either by DAZ themselves or the3Dwizard.
One of the biggest faults about using the Supersuit was that you couldn't make underwear with it. The mesh flow of the supersuit is exactly like genesis so the outfit would fit perfectly; but there's no lines were you could do underwear unless you're dropping a transmap in with the materials. If you look at all the promos of the various supersuit packs, there is not one image of where you could do underwear like the underwear in the classic Superman or other superheroes... they're cut like shorts.
It was pushed out during the fatal changeover of the store to Magento (which was decided by people no longer at Daz, I know) - the timing was terrible!
Buying was nearly impossible and everybody was worried about their accounts and not interested in buying new things.
That said: Daz3d DOES have some content in their drawers, because I have seen not yet existant products readmes in the documentation center for the Supersuit.
I'm not seeing anything in the readmes, but I wonder if they're the items Randall Lloyd has been working on for so long? I hope so.
I'm not seeing anything in the readmes, but I wonder if they're the items Randall Lloyd has been working on for so long? I hope so.
Is he still working on it? I haven't seen anything by him in a long time.
I'm not seeing anything in the readmes, but I wonder if they're the items Randall Lloyd has been working on for so long? I hope so.
Is he still working on it? I haven't seen anything by him in a long time.
Or the catsuit by the3dwizard for that matter...
He came out with this today...
http://www.daz3d.com/new-releases/mech-girl-for-genesis-2-female-s
Looks like a refit of Mech Girl for A3
Actually I also made some changes to Mech Girl Suit. I almost never do a conversion without trying to make it a little better than the original. DAZ dropped the following from the description I submitted, "Mesh has been tweaked to perform better in DAZ Studio when using sub-D. In addition a large number of general morphs were added plus 9 action poses."
Personal issues side tracked me but I am back on the catsuit.
Cheers!
the3dwizard,
Welcome back! and I gots faith in you. :)
Family/personal issues come first always and we appreciate that.
Welcome back and I look forward to your products. :)
There were some issues with the supersuit.
In a way, i think it tried to do too much, but overall, what the package provided made it well worth the cost of it.
As mentioned above, the cost of the shaders alone made it worth the price and then the suit morphs that you could change ANY set of clothing with by conforming that clothing to the supersuit. That was sheer genius, in my opinion, and very helpful.
I do wish they had remedied the UV issues with the suit as part of the product RATHER THAN having to go to an outside source but, all in all, I think it did a great job.
I would love to see something similar to the supersuit come out but with three or four total suits, each with differing material zones for different effects.
I really need to learn to model and setup material zones. :)
Any good tuts out there for ZBrush?
I have no experience with using the supersuit with G2 but I found the supersuit and it's shaders very useful & versatile. I usually don't like the result of using just the supersuit by itself but it's very powerful when combined with other items. It's not good at making superman underwear but it's easy to just add underwear on top. Also as mentioned it's freaking amazing at transforming any other clothing items by conforming them on top of the supersuit. It is heavy on resources if you have an old system.
Traditional body suits are a completely different animal and have different strengths and weaknesses. It's silly to think that one should replace the other.
If your still not sure about getting it you could wait for a sale and DAZ also has a nice return policy but I try not to abuse it. If you use DAZ Studio & could make use of the shaders it's probably worth it just for that.
Okay, I went ahead and bought the Supersuit since it is on special right now. Going to try it out for a while and see what I can do. Thank you all for your input. I do hope to see a G2 version soon, though. ;-)
I've been fooling around with M6 and the Supersuit in the last few days. When applied to a shape-morphed M6 (morphs done via the Gen2 male morph bundle), the Supersuit shows a number of fit errors which manifest as holes where the underlying model's skin is visible. This happens when using the autofit parameter. I haven't tried it with the transfer feature yet, guess that needs to be the next step.
I'm really kind of disappointed. I bought the Supersuit without realizing that it was aimed at last-gen tech.
There's a 'expand all' (I think that's what its called) morph and this will often fix any poke through caused, its what I usually use when I've autofitted it.
I see conflicting answers in this thread about whether the Genesis Supersuit works with Genesis 2.
Anyone have a definitive answer? Anyone who posted having problems, figure-out that the problem was actually fix-able by using the Supersuit the "right" way? (i.e.--Show Hidden, Expand All, transfer tool, etc)