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Forum page gives security warning

marblemarble Posts: 7,500
edited November 2020 in The Commons

Should I be worried about this?

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  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 108,927
    edited November 2020

    If I go to the same link and hover over the warning symbol it explains that elements on the page (I'd guess an externally hosted image in a post or signature) are not on secure pages, it doesn't meant that Daz itself is insecure.

    Edited thead title to reflect the situation.

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  • marblemarble Posts: 7,500

    Ahh, ok Richard. I'm using Edge and the information text is slightly different, saying that images can be modified in order to trick the viewer. I was mainly concerned that there might be some areas of the DAZ web service that are not secured.

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 108,927
    edited November 2020

    Checking through the page, the source appears to be the placeholder image generated by Youtube for an embedded video. If that's Chrome giving the uninformative warning I will find it mildly ironic.

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  • marblemarble Posts: 7,500
    Richard Haseltine said:

    Checking through the page, the source appears to be the placeholder image generated by Youtube for an embedded video. If that's Chrome giving the uninformative warning I will find it mildly ironic.

    Indeed. And yes, I'm using the Chrome version of Edge.

  • SevrinSevrin Posts: 6,313

    Regardless of the source or reason, an e-commerce site should not include insecure elements if it wants to inspire confidence.

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 108,927
    Sevrin said:

    Regardless of the source or reason, an e-commerce site should not include insecure elements if it wants to inspire confidence.

    I suppose Daz could remove the ability to link to outside content, such as images and - as here - videos.

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,404

    was it one of my videos? blush

  • ReneWReneW Posts: 151
    Sevrin said:

    Regardless of the source or reason, an e-commerce site should not include insecure elements if it wants to inspire confidence.

    I agree with you on this, Sevrin.  I've been noticing this recently and have been concerned about the "not secure" warning.

  • ArtAngelArtAngel Posts: 2,028
    Richard Haseltine said:
    Sevrin said:

    Regardless of the source or reason, an e-commerce site should not include insecure elements if it wants to inspire confidence.

    I suppose Daz could remove the ability to link to outside content, such as images and - as here - videos.

    I would assume the store and the forum have different levels of security, and I have Norton 360 (who are nortorious for false alerts) and have no such alerts.

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 108,927
    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    was it one of my videos? blush

    I don't think so in this case - it seems to be a general issue with embedded Youtube videos anyway.

  • marblemarble Posts: 7,500
    Richard Haseltine said:
    Sevrin said:

    Regardless of the source or reason, an e-commerce site should not include insecure elements if it wants to inspire confidence.

    I suppose Daz could remove the ability to link to outside content, such as images and - as here - videos.

    I hope that the forum is separated from the commercial store in terms of security. The forum has many more problems than this one though and I think many of us were hoping that the Store upgrade would include an improved forum. I belong to several other forums and I've never seen warnings about images or videos, not to mention it taking (sometimes) minutes to open and read a thread or switch between threads. Don't get me started on the search.

  • ArtAngelArtAngel Posts: 2,028
    marble said:
    Richard Haseltine said:
    Sevrin said:

    Regardless of the source or reason, an e-commerce site should not include insecure elements if it wants to inspire confidence.

    I suppose Daz could remove the ability to link to outside content, such as images and - as here - videos.

    I hope that the forum is separated from the commercial store in terms of security. The forum has many more problems than this one though and I think many of us were hoping that the Store upgrade would include an improved forum. I belong to several other forums and I've never seen warnings about images or videos, not to mention it taking (sometimes) minutes to open and read a thread or switch between threads. Don't get me started on the search.

    Search works if you use Google incognito along side of the Daz search.

  • marblemarble Posts: 7,500
    ArtAngel said:
    marble said:
    Richard Haseltine said:
    Sevrin said:

    Regardless of the source or reason, an e-commerce site should not include insecure elements if it wants to inspire confidence.

    I suppose Daz could remove the ability to link to outside content, such as images and - as here - videos.

    I hope that the forum is separated from the commercial store in terms of security. The forum has many more problems than this one though and I think many of us were hoping that the Store upgrade would include an improved forum. I belong to several other forums and I've never seen warnings about images or videos, not to mention it taking (sometimes) minutes to open and read a thread or switch between threads. Don't get me started on the search.

    Search works if you use Google incognito along side of the Daz search.

    Could you elaborate? Incognito to hide the fact that you are logged-in? Why so? And why would that improve the search?

    I know this is a discussion elswhere but briefly the recommendation is to use Google site search instead but I've found that it doesn't find posts that I know are there because if I trawl through the posts myself I find it eventually - with the terms that Google failed to find actually there in the text.

  • ArtAngelArtAngel Posts: 2,028
    edited November 2020
    marble said:
    ArtAngel said:
    marble said:
    Richard Haseltine said:
    Sevrin said:

    Regardless of the source or reason, an e-commerce site should not include insecure elements if it wants to inspire confidence.

    I suppose Daz could remove the ability to link to outside content, such as images and - as here - videos.

    I hope that the forum is separated from the commercial store in terms of security. The forum has many more problems than this one though and I think many of us were hoping that the Store upgrade would include an improved forum. I belong to several other forums and I've never seen warnings about images or videos, not to mention it taking (sometimes) minutes to open and read a thread or switch between threads. Don't get me started on the search.

    Search works if you use Google incognito along side of the Daz search.

    Could you elaborate? Incognito to hide the fact that you are logged-in? Why so? And why would that improve the search?

    I know this is a discussion elswhere but briefly the recommendation is to use Google site search instead but I've found that it doesn't find posts that I know are there because if I trawl through the posts myself I find it eventually - with the terms that Google failed to find actually there in the text.

    The 115 the last on far right was incognito. The middle search of 534 results was with history deleted (seems incognito isn not all that incognito) and the first result  of 82 was via the store.

     

    Edit doing a quick search on skydomes not that I have a problem with them. But it seems I get more with incognito which I circled in black. And despite the spelling of forums being incorrect it serves up correct and more detailed info.

     

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  • marblemarble Posts: 7,500

    Ahh - I was talking about the forum search, not the store.

  • ArtAngelArtAngel Posts: 2,028
    marble said:

    Ahh - I was talking about the forum search, not the store.

    The other image on the left in the above post is a forum search. Google knows what we like and showws it in searches (youtube ads etc). Search results differ depending on how much Google knows about you, what device you use and wheter or not you delete your history

  • marblemarble Posts: 7,500
    ArtAngel said:
    marble said:

    Ahh - I was talking about the forum search, not the store.

    The other image on the left in the above post is a forum search. Google knows what we like and showws it in searches (youtube ads etc). Search results differ depending on how much Google knows about you, what device you use and wheter or not you delete your history

    OK, right. Now I understand why you say incognito mode. Sorry - I can be a bit slow.

  • miladyderyni_173d399f47miladyderyni_173d399f47 Posts: 2,572

    I suspect Chrome has added some kind of new security "feature" that is coded (badly) to be Hypervigilant to Alarmist. For the past couple months (& this definitely started before Store Changeover), I've been getting this official Chrome warning off and on. It says I should check &/or change my passwords for everything because they have detected breaches on multiple sites. If I open my Chrome password/site list, there's nothing recent. All the flags are for sites I haven't visited in years &/or have login credentials--usernames,PWs, email addresses--I also discarded long ago. This happens on sites of all levels of security. Only Chrome, and the last time I had any sort of security problem online was 1 nasty bit of malware over 10 years and 2 or 3 computers ago.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 42,041

    ...sometimes Incognito mode is very useful.. For example, for sites that have "anti" advert-blocker software (a growing trend it seems) to keep from having to turn your advert blocker off in the main browser window.  Yeah, you'll get those bothersome adverts but only in that window on the particular site in question for the time you are on it, but you don't have to change the settings on your main window.

    It's also a good way around free article limits on news sites. Crilkey, if I had to subscribe to every news site I visit for a year, I could afford a perpetual ZBrush Licence...

  • ArtAngelArtAngel Posts: 2,028
    marble said:
    ArtAngel said:
    marble said:

    Ahh - I was talking about the forum search, not the store.

    The other image on the left in the above post is a forum search. Google knows what we like and showws it in searches (youtube ads etc). Search results differ depending on how much Google knows about you, what device you use and wheter or not you delete your history

    OK, right. Now I understand why you say incognito mode. Sorry - I can be a bit slow.

    ROFL me more than you I just noticed the forum image is the one on the right not on the left as I said, no wonder you thought it was the store search. My apologies.

  • PerttiAPerttiA Posts: 10,024
    ArtAngel said:
    marble said:

    Ahh - I was talking about the forum search, not the store.

    The other image on the left in the above post is a forum search. Google knows what we like and showws it in searches (youtube ads etc). Search results differ depending on how much Google knows about you, what device you use and wheter or not you delete your history

    One of the many reasons I stopped using Google search

  • BejaymacBejaymac Posts: 1,962
    edited November 2020

    With Chrome any web address that starts "http" is flagged as un-secure, data transfer on those sites aren't encrypted, while sites that use "https" are encrypted, and classed as secure by Chrome.

     

    miladyderyni_173d399f47 said:

    I suspect Chrome has added some kind of new security "feature" that is coded (badly) to be Hypervigilant to Alarmist. For the past couple months (& this definitely started before Store Changeover), I've been getting this official Chrome warning off and on. It says I should check &/or change my passwords for everything because they have detected breaches on multiple sites. If I open my Chrome password/site list, there's nothing recent. All the flags are for sites I haven't visited in years &/or have login credentials--usernames,PWs, email addresses--I also discarded long ago. This happens on sites of all levels of security. Only Chrome, and the last time I had any sort of security problem online was 1 nasty bit of malware over 10 years and 2 or 3 computers ago.

    Chrome does that when it feels that your login details have been compromised, usually because the site in question has been hacked, and your login details have been put up for sale somewhere.

    It gets worse if you happen to have used the same login details on more than one site, one gets compromised and it wants you to change all of the others.

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  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,795

    I am getting that warning in the new Chrome engine base Edge in the DAZ forums and it's just because images are shared that are on sites that aren't secure.

  • KrzysztofaKrzysztofa Posts: 226

    I get the warning in firefox as well. On this very page in fact!

    Firefox makes a distinction between active and passive unencrypted mixed content. According to firefox, this very page has mixed passive content. Passive content is less of a risk than active content, but it is still an avenue for phishing attacks.

    For the curious, Firefox has a nice little explainer here https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/mixed-content-blocking-firefox

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