My laptop blew up - yay! So does anyone have any specific reviews of the RTX 2070?

Just venting, but...

My venerable-but-still-fire-breathing Acer Aspire 7 bit the big one this morning (let's just say that if it wasn't for the fact that our longhaired dacshcund is simultaneously cute and my wife's most favorite 4--legged creature in the universe? I would've turned it into a mini-rug by now.)  The 2-year SquareTrade drop/fall warranty had expired back in September, and stuff rattles in the now non-booting laptop with a hella cracked screen and a massive dent in one corner, so yeah... it's good and dead.

Fortunately, all my data is backed-up on NAS, and I was even able to salvage the 2TB SSD in good order (it's mounted read-only on Linux Mint, running on the ancient-but-still-runs ThinkPad that I'm typing this on, so...)

So, I went and got a new laptop after securing executive permission - and I actually saved a lot of ducats along the way. I discovered that they do make mobile NVIDIA 3000-series RTX processors, but I didn't quite feel like buying a $2500-$3000+ laptop just for the markup. So I went for RTX 2070, 10th-Gen i7, and I'll swap the HDD for my rescued SSD, then bump the RAM later. I sprung for the SquareTrade warranty again, since I'd done it for years and it's always treated me right the few times I did need it (Why only 2 years? IMHO anything after 2 years translates to "time to get a new one, dude"). Call it peace-of-mind. 

Anyrate - a question: Can anyone give a quickie review of how DS on the RTX 2070 8GB GPU stacks against, say, the GTX 1060 6GB GPU that I used up until this morning?  It is just a bit incremental, or am I about to get my mind blown?

Mind, I was actually perfectly okay on the old GPU, and as a crude benchmark, I averaged 20-minute iRay render times for 1080p-ish-sized still images (a bit of tweaking + denoise could drop it to 10 minutes or so and the results still looked quite decent.)  2-3 figures in somewhat moderately poly-heavy scenes with HDRI to make up for the background.

I'm just wondering how much of a difference that I can expect.



 

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  • I think a mini-rug would be a waste of a good dachshund , how about a nice fur muff hand warmer instead?

  • It depends on your scenes - the more ray-tracing they require, the bigger the difference. You should also see more usable memory on the card since Iray doesn't need to load code to emulate the RTX features.

  • It depends on your scenes - the more ray-tracing they require, the bigger the difference. You should also see more usable memory on the card since Iray doesn't need to load code to emulate the RTX features.

     

    I like what I'm hearing on the memory usage... I never really pounded the vRAM too hard before (because it used to be that if you trip the 6GB barrier, *poof* - we're gonna sit around all day on CPU emulation!)

    I'll likely be able to dork with it a bit on the weekend, since one kid is in Utah now, and the other is w/ her fiancee and unable to make it out here, so I'll know for certain once I get everything all set up. 

  • DustRiderDustRider Posts: 2,911
    edited November 2020

    Hey Peng!! Sorry to here about your ... ummm ... accident But it's a chance to get some new shiney! 

    I have a RTX 2070 in my laptop (MSI Titan GT76) and really like it. I've had it over a year now, and no problems. It's done a lot of rendering and photogrammetry, and still quite happy with it.

    I grabbed a couple of screenshots from the benchmark thread here: https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/341041/daz-studio-iray-rendering-hardware-benchmarking/p1. They should give you a good idea what to expect with a 2070. My 2070 is in there, this was done while in the "comfort" fan setting - which means it will throttle down to keep the heat down if needed, rather than turn the jets on. So it could propbably perform a bit better in "sport" or "turbo" mode, but the quiet system is really nice!!

    Hope this helps!

     

    RTX 2070 Bench.jpg
    1144 x 251 - 64K
    GTX 10xx Bench.jpg
    1152 x 645 - 152K
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  • Half the time form the looks of it? I can totally live with that. 

    (as for fan noise, let it rip! I misspent my youth around jet aircraft, so a little fan noise isn't going to worry me too much ;) )

  • My 2070 matches my 1080ti in most scenes I tested.

  • I think a mini-rug would be a waste of a good dachshund , how about a nice fur muff hand warmer instead?

     

    lol - just noticed my typo. I really hate having to get used to different sized keyboards that early in the morning... :) 

  • My 2070 matches my 1080ti in most scenes I tested.

     

    I didn't have a *Ti, so I don't rightly know what the differences would be there.

  • ed3Ded3D Posts: 2,647
    edited November 2020

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  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 42,415
    edited November 2020

    Half the time form the looks of it? I can totally live with that. 

    (as for fan noise, let it rip! I misspent my youth around jet aircraft, so a little fan noise isn't going to worry me too much ;) )

    ...yeah did the same back in the days of the old turbo (not fan) jet DC-8s, 707s, and 720s. Caravelles were fairly loud as well with those RollsRoyce Avons and once a year we'd get a Vulcan bomber showing up for the annual airshow. 

    I have seven fans (including a bit 120 mm one on the side) in the case of my render system and it is eerily quiet. The case does have a lot of soundproofing so even the TitanX is isn't discernable during an big render job..

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  • DripDrip Posts: 1,269

    I really love my 2070. Your biggest challenge will be, to restrain yourself from making your scenes bigger and bigger compared to what you did with the 1060. It's really noticably faster, and you can really squeeze a lot more assets into a single render. But, each asset added will increase your render times as well, so it'll be really easy to get back to those 20-minute render times, just with way more stuff in your render.

    Not sure how a 2070 runs in a laptop though, it might be throttled somewhat to keep the heat down, but I haven't read any complaints about such issues yet, so it's probably not too bad.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 42,415

    ....20 minutes is still preferable to 6 - 8 hours on the CPU.

  • PenguinistoPenguinisto Posts: 85
    edited November 2020

    So... it arrives. The MSI G75 Leopard.

    I go through the setups (the screen looks way nicer than the Acer ever did... go-go-gadget IPS!) I swap out the 2nd HDD (it came with a 1TB spinning-rust 7200rpm Seagate HDD for the 2nd drive. I have a 2TB Crucial BX SDD with all my runtimes on it that needs to go in that slot, so we violate the heck outta the warranty not even 24 hours after receiving it, and...)

    Grabbed a quick re-download of DS, tweaked it a bit (my prefs will have to wait - I can get those off the old C: drive)

    Loaded up a typical already-done still-image, and...

    HOOOOLY SH$#@T! This thing is scary-fast! 

    A still that normally took me 25-30 minutes or so, whomped-out perfectly in 12 minutes flat. I hadn't even touched the drivers or tweaked the OS for speed yet (still using the default NVIDIA-built driver it came with.)

    Mr. Dustrider sir, you are correct about the sound when the cooling boost kicks in. The thing sounds dead-on like an F-16 spooling up for takeoff (almost the same pitch, too)...  

    I think I'm gonna like this little beastie. Now I'm just waiting for the RAM to show up (it has 16GB, I bought a bump to 32GB yesterday while waiting for the UPS guy), and I'll rescue all my custom prefs (and long-forgotten-until-now homegrown bits that I forgot to back up - urgh) from the old laptop's rescued drive, once the same delivery brings me (on Monday) an NVMe external USB case. 

    Cheers!

     

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  • If you have user defined fan control for the video card....  What I did with mine is set so that the fan runs normally ( quietly ) during browsing etc, but as soon as the temperature rises above normal I have the fans go straight to 100%, that way if i start a render I get full cooling straight away. I feel it's better for the video card to stop it getting hot rather than the nvidia default, which seems to let it get very hot before kicking the fans in. I think the less thermal cycling the better, but that's just my opinion.

  • Good idea... gonna have to find the setting for that.

  • How about RTX 2070 vs GTX 1660Ti ?

    I`ve had the 1660 Ti for almost a year now (upgraded from a 1060 the previous year), and it`s been wonderful! But I`m starting to feel like I`m out growing it. :(

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