What Is The First Thing You Add To A Carrara Refresh?

I've mentioned I'm migrating software to a new machine, and I got to the point where I had to think about what I should put first in Carrara's browser.  This also happens after a big contest project when I decided to just start over with Carrara, wiping out the crowded browser (except for Carrara native content).  

FWIW, my first addition is to the "Content" tab, the Runtime from Poser 7.  This is after I add M4, V4, F4 & their morphs++ and skin textures to the P7 Runtime.  I have Poser Pro, but  I use P7 because I can't figure out how to load M4 etc into Poser Pro.  I'm sure I'm missing something, but I don't care.  P7 works for me, and for Win10.

After that, its Dimension Theory (Tim Payne, I think?) skies, lighting, etc., and PhilW's Realistic Seas, the best for any scene with water.

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  • MystiarraMystiarra Posts: 35,608

    iirc had to run the bat files to load the morphs ++ channels into the m/v4 cr2s

  • StezzaStezza Posts: 5,790

    I just keep a backup of my preferences file and use that so nothing changes 

    and a backup of my Carrara file structure so just copy it all over to the new hard drive

  • DartanbeckDartanbeck Posts: 16,505

    Carrara feels incredibly goofy to me when I don't have Fenric's plugins installed. That has become the very first thing I do when I install Carrara fresh.

    I don't actually make a copy of my Preferences file, but along those same lines, I backup my entire custom browser from My Documents, so I have all of the crap I've been saving over the last ten years - as long as I still have all of the required stuff installed. I just cleaned out a huge pile of junk made from freebies (that I acquired from my pre-Carrara Poser days) that I haven't had for years! LOL

    The whole 'storing stuff on external drives' for use in Carrara is fairly new to me. Stezza, Silene, Wendy and the crew turned me on to that.

    I always start my build with a fresh C drive - spanky and new. So for this new build, I installed my previous C drive and just left everything where it was - even Windows. I'll clean it up eventually. But instead of installing Carrara Native Content in the usual way, this time I added all of the various folders that populate the usual browser, but in my own order.

    So where before I had to save my scene files into my Objects folder, because the My Documents system doesn't have one for the Scenes tab, this time I added all of my Scene folder categories directly to the Scenes tab. I love it.

    Since I migrated all of my folders from my laptop too, which had slightly different names and such, I still have a mess to clean up! LOL

    Easy peasy though. One day I'll just open all of the folders I don't want and empty their contents into the folder I do want them in. It's nice having a good, organized system.

  • Steve KSteve K Posts: 2,279

    Yes, I also load some backup presets, especially clips which took some work to collect from various other sources like Eclipse Studios (defunct?), Posermocap, aniMate Aniblocks, etc.  And yes, Fenric is a must, especially for getting rid of "Shininess" which seems way too high for every Poser model loaded.

    Maybe another way of asking is ... what is at the top of your Carrara Browser "Content" tab.  As I mentioned, mine is the Poser 7 Runtime with M4, V4 and F4 installed.  

  • StezzaStezza Posts: 5,790
    edited October 26

    mine hasn't changed in years laugh

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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 28,577

    since my preferences have gotten reset against my will a few times by Windoze 10

    including all my serials!!!!

    and I moved my content to a couple of different drives

    mine is a bit of a mess

     

  • DiomedeDiomede Posts: 11,427
    edited October 26

    Stezza got me wondering so I had to check my content libraries.I have runtimes named for sources and programs, such as Content Paradise and Poser 11.

    I still have a Poser 4 runtime.  laugh

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  • Steve KSteve K Posts: 2,279
    Stezza said:

    mine hasn't changed in years laugh

    Looks like a different approach than mine, more organized  with a lot of products in each Runtime.  After my Poser 7 Runtime at the top, I end up with a long list of individual product runtimes for a given project, so long that it makes it hard to find a particular product.  And reloading that product does no good, Carrara won't do it twice, so I have to find it.  So at the end of a project, I usually have to do a lot of deletes ... 

  • Steve KSteve K Posts: 2,279

    since my preferences have gotten reset against my will a few times by Windoze 10

    including all my serials!!!!

    Ouch!  frown

     

  • VyusurVyusur Posts: 1,920
    edited October 26

    Some of my stable presets wander from system to system. As for V4 or M4, I don't clog my system with such figures anymore.

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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 28,577

    well is a Carrara Refresh an alcoholic cocktail or a Mocktail?

    it definately needs a cherry and an umbrella regardlesscheeky

    I think pineapple and banana a given since Carrara Australia on the Gold Coast

    Rum probably too

  • MystiarraMystiarra Posts: 35,608
    edited October 26

    rummy heart i like how you think laugh

     

    i install carrara to fresh e:\ drive partition, with ps, ds, and the qms.

    the runtimes go on a fresh q drive partition.  i want to make sure the file paths are all the same  system to system 
    q:\  dont want any of those pesky 'not found' messages.  

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  • Steve KSteve K Posts: 2,279

    "Carrara, Australia on the Gold Coast"  I see they have a purpose built cricket stadium.  Reminds me of a conversation here in Houston with a baseball coach complaining while a cricketer (yes, we have them) listened in.  "Our leadoff batter is Randy, he's having trouble staying in the box."  The cricketer laughed and said "tell him to take a cold shower".

    "Houston man building country's largest cricket complex"

    https://tinyurl.com/yxj2h5tw

     

  • StezzaStezza Posts: 5,790

    laugh

  • Steve KSteve K Posts: 2,279
    Stezza said:

    laugh

    I was laughing right along with them, even though I understood less than half of what they were saying.  And I was in London during the 1999 Cricket World Cup, even took the Tube to the Oval. Or maybe Lord's ... cheeky

     

  • DartanbeckDartanbeck Posts: 16,505

    Mine is a lot like Stezza and Diomede's except that I make mine according to the base figures:

    • V4 (Includes hair, clothing, poses, character presets (A4, G4, S4, etc., included) - everything I have for V4 except vehicles and pals not using the V4 figure base)
    • M4 (Includes hair, clothing, poses, character presets (H4, F4, D4, etc., included) - everything I have for M4 except vehicles and pals not using the M4 figure base)
    • Mil 3 (As above but for the entire generation 3 family, since I don't have nearly as much of that, but lately this collection had grown quite a bit)
    • Mil 12 (As above, but combine both generations 1 and 2, since their mostly compatible with one another)
    • Kids (Includes all Kids from generation 1 through 4, and all of the (not much) stuff I have for them)
    • Environs (this one is the most disorganized since I use it for places and the things that go with them, including luggage and stuff - but not animals or vehicles)
    • Animals (All manner of creatures that are not human or dragon)
    • Dragons (yep)
    • Vehicles (from bicycles to star ships back to horse-drawn carriages and submarines,- used to also include robots and drones)
    • Robots (Robots and drones)
    • Weapons (A new category I made a few years ago to put things that I no longer wanted to keep in an exclusive figure line runtime or Environs. Musical instruments, computers, gadgets - props that any character from any generation or vendor can use - especially weapons!)
    • Rendo (Another new one to help organize the stuff I get from the other store - A lot of that stuff, however, is still located in the other categories above, since they fit nicely)
    • More V4
    • More M4
    • More Mil3
    • More Animals
    • More Vehicles
    • More Environs - (these are all runtimes I use to store things that I might get for free or whatever. It's amazing how easily I remember what I put in them and what I should put in them. Kind of like the Rendo runtime but these can be from anywhere and anyone - like the cool stuff I get for free from this forum, for example!)
    • My Daz 3D Library (where I keep all DUF-only products, including my own)
  • DartanbeckDartanbeck Posts: 16,505

    Now, my "My Presets > My Objects" browser folder is quite a bit more vast, however!

  • Steve KSteve K Posts: 2,279

    Mine is a lot like Stezza and Diomede's except that I make mine according to the base figures:

    • V4 (Includes hair, clothing, poses, character presets (A4, G4, S4, etc., included) - everything I have for V4 except vehicles and pals not using the V4 figure base)
    • M4 (Includes hair, clothing, poses, character presets (H4, F4, D4, etc., included) - everything I have for M4 except vehicles and pals not using the M4 figure base)

    I vaguely recall that my M4 & V4 installers required installation to some version of Poser.  Then linking Poser's Runtimes to Carrara's browser.  Do you have standalone Runtimes for M4 & V4 in Carrara's browser?

  • DartanbeckDartanbeck Posts: 16,505

    Daz 3D installers used to check the address we were installing to for: 

    1. Poser.exe
    2. Any required files for the product being installed

    If any of those were missing, the installer would give us the finger and close.

    The trick was to create a blank (or not blank?) txt file and rename it "poser.exe"

    So, yeah... on my old backup hardrives that I'm not sure I remember their loctation... they all have poser.exe within each of these categories I made. 

    Back in the day, there was a quirk in Poser that only allowed the user to 'see' (and therefore have access to within Poser) something like 99 items in any one category. So it became a common and suggested thing to create multiple runtimes. Poser 5 (my first copy) came with the new ability of having multiple runtimes built in. I think before that folks needed a mod of sorts.

    By the time I bought Carrara, I knew I had to think up a new "runtime" organization system - mine was an absolute mess!

    I used the fact that I always found it a pain in the tush to have to look through Michael, Aiko, Freak, etc., clothing in order to find something I bought for Vicky. Many things back then didn't say V3 or A3 of Posette on the name of the item, so I'd constantly wonder what "Kill Suit" was, and who it was for. (I just made up the Kill Suit name for lack of memory! LOL)

    Once I started organizing by base figure I'll never do it another way - for the people, that is! Keeping vehicles and environments separate is an utter dream!

    In my Carrara browser I started keeping Interiors separate from Exteriors because I make so many scenes. My new computer has a whole bunch of environment categories, like Environment Exterior, but then also SciFi Exterior, where the stufff that begins with Environments is mostly grounded to Earth. Starships, Starship Interiors. 

    Inside my Interiors folder are things like Castles, Dungeons, Home xxx, Home yyy, West Park, etc.,

    I have a bazillion browser categories for people alone! Rosie and Dart probably take up over 500GB because I've saved every version since I started making them. It's on my to do list to clean that stuff up and put it in storage. I never want to lose it, but this is getting ridiculous!!! ;)

  • DartanbeckDartanbeck Posts: 16,505

    Carrara 6, 7 and 8 each came with a null "poser.exe" file as well.That enabled the Daz 3D installers to install to them directly. Carrara can hunt for Poser runtimes, but it also comes with one in the program's directory.

  • Steve KSteve K Posts: 2,279

    Great explanation, I did not know most of that.  I've always let each product create its own Folder/Runtime in a massive "Poser" folder (327 GB currently) on an external drive, then added whatever I need for a particular project to Carrara's "Content" tab.  I think only M4 and V4 didn't work without your strategy.

  • StezzaStezza Posts: 5,790
    edited October 29

    you can create your own fake poser.exe

    open notepad and save as poser.txt then rename it poser.exe

    too easy wink

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  • Steve KSteve K Posts: 2,279
    Stezza said:

    you can create your own fake poser.exe

    open notepad and save as poser.txt then rename it poser.exe

    too easy wink

    That sounds like cheating, what if I get caught?  cool

     

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