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VIArtsVIArts Posts: 1,526
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Ummm...I wannA convert Nerdy Girl hair to dforce. is it possible?

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  • MelissaGTMelissaGT Posts: 2,611

    Link would help. 

  • GordigGordig Posts: 10,645

    Some rectification of names might be in order. You can ADD dForce to the hair, which is as simple as adding a dForce modifier to it. Getting it to dForce well is a more involved process, and my understanding is that different hairs are more or less conducive to this process, but I haven't tried it myself. You can't CONVERT the hair as it is to "dForce hair", which is a spline-based system that only PAs have the tools to create. 

  • VIArtsVIArts Posts: 1,526
    melissastjames said:

    Link would help. 

    https://www.daz3d.com/nerdy-girl-hair-for-genesis-3-female-s

  • MelissaGTMelissaGT Posts: 2,611
    edited October 2020

    It really depends on the hair if it will take to the dForce cloth system. The one you linked (my guess) would be a bad candidate. That hair doesn't look like it has a lot of geometry to work with...so it might end up weird. Though my best suggestion would be to try it. I've had some hairs, mostly those by AprilYSH (G3 and G8), take to dForce quite well. But again, they need to have a good amount of geometry to work with. In addition, there are others that I thought would work well that end up sitting there on the springs notification for an hour...and the only way to figure that one out is to try it.

    There is a set of default settings you could try out there by EchV0...it helped me get started, but honestly I don't even use them anymore because the settings just don't seem to work for me so I just wing it myself. You'll want to definitely paint a dForce weight map around anything you don't want to move, such as a part or the top of the head that would typically not move much. Also turn off dynamics from any cap, otherwise it will slip right off the head. And get used to using the environment settings (gravity and air resistence). 

    Here are a couple examples of hair that I've successfully simulated - 


    This was Reyna hair by AprilYSH

     


    This was Delphi hair by AprilYSH

     


    This was Orson hair by AprilYSH

     


    And this one was the mane for the HiveWire Horse. 

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  • kenshaw011267kenshaw011267 Posts: 3,805

    That's very impressive. I tried those echV0 settings on some hairs and got nowhere. 

     

  • MelissaGTMelissaGT Posts: 2,611
    kenshaw011267 said:

    That's very impressive. I tried those echV0 settings on some hairs and got nowhere. 

     

    Unfortunately, I couldn't get them to work at all either. I've had better luck experimenting on my own. 

  • maikdeckermaikdecker Posts: 3,037
    MAJourney said:

    Ummm...I wannA convert Nerdy Girl hair to dforce. is it possible?

    Could work, but You would

    • know how dForce works... at least the basics and
    • know how to apply a weight map to the hair keep it from just falling apart into floating pieces.

    I guess (!) getting the tails and the bangs act under dForce should not too complicated. Apply dForce modifier, then set the weight for the whole hair to zero and manually apply weight to the few parts that will react anyway. Try it out and see of pieces start floating off and adjust the weightmap accordingly... sometimes it is easier done on simple hair, but usually the result isn't as spectacular..

    Just try.. you can't really do any permanent damage wink

  • grinch2901grinch2901 Posts: 1,247

    I did a thread on this a long time ago, goes through the basics of setting up the weight map and some tips for handling parts that are hard to paint, stuff like that.

    https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/249121/experimenting-with-dforce-on-older-hair/p1

  • VIArtsVIArts Posts: 1,526

    i guess it would be easier to just try to find some dforce pigtails...

     

    or...how is VWD 2? I edn't even have 1

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