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Running daz on older machine

sterlenejcsterlenejc Posts: 180
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So I have this older PC which haven't been in use for years now... It has ancient components, core 2 duo 2.8GHz, 4GB of Ram and Nvidia GT315 1GB DDR memory. I do not expect this machine to be ultra fast for anything, let alone Daz Daz Studio. Do you think I could run 32bit version with Generation 3 or 4 sucessfully? 1 or 2 characters max, and probably 3Delight. Please note it's my second machine which I'd use for fun, learning about older generations as most of my content is Gen3 or 8 currently Thanks on advance

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  • kenshaw011267kenshaw011267 Posts: 3,805

    The GPU would not work in iRay or, likely, dForce.

    You'd have a hard time running Win10. So you'd likely want an older version of Windows, XP would likely be your best option.

    Other than that the 32 bit version should run no problem.

  • richardandtracyrichardandtracy Posts: 7,336
    edited April 2020

    That is not far off the spec of Win 10 laptop I used for DS before I was given my current obsolete Win 7 machine. It ran DS 4.10. All iRay rendering was in CPU and it was achingly slow. Don't think I ever completed a render with it before Win 10 got so bored it turned the process off. Eventually I only used it to export obj files to go into my 3D printer using Victoria 3. However, I got my more powerful Win7 machine 2 months later & it ceased to be a problem.

    The GPU you have won't run the current version of iRay, which needs a much newer driver than the GT315 wil support..

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  • SevrinSevrin Posts: 6,313

    This sounds like the kind of machine I might force myself to use if I've been naughty.  You can learn about older generations on your good machine.

  • TaozTaoz Posts: 10,285

    I'm currently using an old Core 2 Quad 2.4 GHz with 8 GB RAM, PCIe 1.1, and a GTX 1070, for rendering. 64bit version of DS.  Works fine except for the limitations the 8 GB RAM imposes.  Rendering with the NVidia card is pretty fast, completes Sickleyield's Iray Benchmark scene https://www.deviantart.com/sickleyield/art/Iray-Scene-For-Time-Benchmarks-519528033  in 4-5 minutes.  With CPU alone the test takes over 2 hours.

     

     

     

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 42,038

    ...sounds like my old 32 Bit Toshiba notebook sans the GT 315. 

    How much HDD space?

  • sterlenejcsterlenejc Posts: 180
    kyoto kid said:

    ...sounds like my old 32 Bit Toshiba notebook sans the GT 315. 

    How much HDD space?

    500gb but I have 2 2TB drives for my content as well. No ssd, sadly, but I am not planning to use the machine much except for rendering, leaving it on overnight if necedssry
  • sterlenejcsterlenejc Posts: 180
    Taoz said:

    I'm currently using an old Core 2 Quad 2.4 GHz with 8 GB RAM, PCIe 1.1, and a GTX 1070, for rendering. 64bit version of DS.  Works fine except for the limitations the 8 GB RAM imposes.  Rendering with the NVidia card is pretty fast, completes Sickleyield's Iray Benchmark scene https://www.deviantart.com/sickleyield/art/Iray-Scene-For-Time-Benchmarks-519528033  in 4-5 minutes.  With CPU alone the test takes over 2 hours.

     

     

     

    Wow, I would not expect GPU to be THAT much faster? Anyway, this is a second PC, which can be left on 24/7, it doesn't consume a lot of power so I'll use it for renders as long as it works. I will be using 3Dlight render engine with older content. I have a bunch of freebies, mostly for G8. I assume there is no chance of bringing that content (without dson importer) into Daz or maybe even Poser?
  • TaozTaoz Posts: 10,285
    edited May 2020
    sterlenejc said:
    Taoz said:

    I'm currently using an old Core 2 Quad 2.4 GHz with 8 GB RAM, PCIe 1.1, and a GTX 1070, for rendering. 64bit version of DS.  Works fine except for the limitations the 8 GB RAM imposes.  Rendering with the NVidia card is pretty fast, completes Sickleyield's Iray Benchmark scene https://www.deviantart.com/sickleyield/art/Iray-Scene-For-Time-Benchmarks-519528033  in 4-5 minutes.  With CPU alone the test takes over 2 hours.

     

     

     

     

    Wow, I would not expect GPU to be THAT much faster? Anyway, this is a second PC, which can be left on 24/7, it doesn't consume a lot of power so I'll use it for renders as long as it works. I will be using 3Dlight render engine with older content. I have a bunch of freebies, mostly for G8. I assume there is no chance of bringing that content (without dson importer) into Daz or maybe even Poser?

    If the G8 freebies are made correctly they should work OK in later versions of DS as they are, DSON is only for Poser import.  They won't work in Poser by default, some seem to have found some workarounds but I haven't tried myself:  https://forum.smithmicro.com/topic/2745/genesis-8-in-poser-pro-11-done/3

    BTW, Core 2 is 64 bit so you should be able to run the 64 bit version of DS though with only 4 GB RAM I don't know how much difference it makes.

     

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  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 108,900
    Taoz said:
    sterlenejc said:
    Taoz said:

    I'm currently using an old Core 2 Quad 2.4 GHz with 8 GB RAM, PCIe 1.1, and a GTX 1070, for rendering. 64bit version of DS.  Works fine except for the limitations the 8 GB RAM imposes.  Rendering with the NVidia card is pretty fast, completes Sickleyield's Iray Benchmark scene https://www.deviantart.com/sickleyield/art/Iray-Scene-For-Time-Benchmarks-519528033  in 4-5 minutes.  With CPU alone the test takes over 2 hours.

     

     

     

     

    Wow, I would not expect GPU to be THAT much faster? Anyway, this is a second PC, which can be left on 24/7, it doesn't consume a lot of power so I'll use it for renders as long as it works. I will be using 3Dlight render engine with older content. I have a bunch of freebies, mostly for G8. I assume there is no chance of bringing that content (without dson importer) into Daz or maybe even Poser?

    If the G8 freebies are made correctly they should work OK in later versions of DS as they are, DSON is only for Poser import.  They won't work in Poser by default, some seem to have found some workarounds but I haven't tried myself:  https://forum.smithmicro.com/topic/2745/genesis-8-in-poser-pro-11-done/3

    BTW, Core 2 is 64 bit so you should be able to run the 64 bit version of DS though with only 4 GB RAM I don't know how much difference it makes.

    DSON is the format used for .duf files, the Poser plug-in is the DSON Importer - that is, an importer for the native Daz Studio DSON files.

  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 12,174

    Windows10 will run in a 4GB machine but it's not pretty, especially with a DAZ scene in memory too.  It's like the circus fat lady trying to change clothes in an airplane restroom while nursing her baby.frown

  • TaozTaoz Posts: 10,285
    Richard Haseltine said:
    Taoz said:
    sterlenejc said:
    Taoz said:

    I'm currently using an old Core 2 Quad 2.4 GHz with 8 GB RAM, PCIe 1.1, and a GTX 1070, for rendering. 64bit version of DS.  Works fine except for the limitations the 8 GB RAM imposes.  Rendering with the NVidia card is pretty fast, completes Sickleyield's Iray Benchmark scene https://www.deviantart.com/sickleyield/art/Iray-Scene-For-Time-Benchmarks-519528033  in 4-5 minutes.  With CPU alone the test takes over 2 hours.

     

     

     

     

    Wow, I would not expect GPU to be THAT much faster? Anyway, this is a second PC, which can be left on 24/7, it doesn't consume a lot of power so I'll use it for renders as long as it works. I will be using 3Dlight render engine with older content. I have a bunch of freebies, mostly for G8. I assume there is no chance of bringing that content (without dson importer) into Daz or maybe even Poser?

    If the G8 freebies are made correctly they should work OK in later versions of DS as they are, DSON is only for Poser import.  They won't work in Poser by default, some seem to have found some workarounds but I haven't tried myself:  https://forum.smithmicro.com/topic/2745/genesis-8-in-poser-pro-11-done/3

    BTW, Core 2 is 64 bit so you should be able to run the 64 bit version of DS though with only 4 GB RAM I don't know how much difference it makes.

    DSON is the format used for .duf files, the Poser plug-in is the DSON Importer - that is, an importer for the native Daz Studio DSON files.

    Oh, Ok, well I did mean the DSON importer here.

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,790

    Blender 2.79 would work fine although you wouldn't want to render on your old computer. I have Blender 2.79 running on an old 2003 Toshiba Portege M205 convertable tablet and Windows 7. The tablet is so old that Windows 8+ won't run on it and maxes out at 4GB RAM.

  • sterlenejcsterlenejc Posts: 180
    nonesuch00 said:

    Blender 2.79 would work fine although you wouldn't want to render on your old computer. I have Blender 2.79 running on an old 2003 Toshiba Portege M205 convertable tablet and Windows 7. The tablet is so old that Windows 8+ won't run on it and maxes out at 4GB RAM.

    Maybe generation 4 characters transfered to Blender and using Evee or any other render engines might be faster. I'll see what I can do
  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 42,038
    sterlenejc said:
    kyoto kid said:

    ...sounds like my old 32 Bit Toshiba notebook sans the GT 315. 

    How much HDD space?

     

    500gb but I have 2 2TB drives for my content as well. No ssd, sadly, but I am not planning to use the machine much except for rendering, leaving it on overnight if necedssry

    ...that's a bit more, mine has a 320 GB drive (replacing the original 80 GB one that failed)

  • outrider42outrider42 Posts: 3,679

    CPU rendering of any kind on a 10 year old dual core is not going to be fun. The 4GB of RAM is not going to help either. I suppose with all the old content you would be using, it would effectively equal out a bit.

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