Yet another odd product name - Downtown NY Living Room
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Um... first, it's a great looking product so no negative connotations are impled here but... this product https://www.daz3d.com/downtown-ny-living-room comes with a Queen/King sized bed, a full kitchen and dining set, and a complete bathroom with a shower. That's not a living room, that's a full efficiency apartment. Why advertise it as something less than what it is?
Okay, the one other comment. Is it just a little weird that the couch faces the bed instead of the TV set?
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It wanted to stay close to the filing cabinets, and there was nothing to watch.
I liked the huge selection of props.
My first thought was, who could afford this many square feet in downtown New York?
No kidding. But then again, there are a LOT of ridiculously over the top loft spaces, apartments, houses, etc. in the DAZ store. I imagine that a good bit of this is a sort of wish-fullfillment thing... building one's dream home and all of that… but since so many of the DAZ PAs are in other countries, I suspect that a lot of what we see is also based basedon perceptions filtered from movies and sitcoms rather than first hand experience or research. This is, after all, the place where high heels are the default footwear for any female outfit, even when it's only a loincloth.
Precisely mine as well. I lived in Manhattan for a while in the 90's. My place was roughly a closet, a small closet.
At least the geographical location seems proper, compared to all that "european..." whatever stuff, which either hasn't any special "european" look - whatever that is supposed to be, as europe's different regiosn have quite different looks for about all stuff needed for living - or a "this stuff looks out of date, so it has to be what europeans use" look - like telephones from the late '60s or so..
Hint: for a "european look" check the newest catalogue of a swedish furniture (and life style thingies) shop chain that probably has an outlet close to where you are living. That's probably the stuff you'll find in flats all over europe, whereas other furniture is often more locally themed.
Don't get me wrong it's a wonderful set . And it mimics the IKEA look so well that it's instantly recognizable which is totally well done. But I'm not an exact fan of the IKEA look. It's not even a synonym for European interior look ... if there is one ...
The under-employed twenty-somethings in sitcoms who work in publishing and spend all their spare time sitting around in their colossal apartments wearing designer clothing and complaining about how little money they have.
I realize that if you set a sitcom in an actual New York apartment, you'd have to shoot everything with an ultra wide-angle lens, the entire cast would be sitting in each other's laps, and the cameraman would have to stand in the sink, but still ...
The odd thing is that this set reminded me of my partner's studio apartment: the bare brick and the window shapes are a reasonably close fit, and the general configuration is similar -- except that hers has two windows instead of three, the windows are half the width, and the whole thing has about an eighth the floor area of this. So it's clear that the artist has seen a New York apartment (or at least pictures of a representative sample), but they just exaggerated the proportions.
I think it comes down to the same reasons why characters have huge lofts in shows like How I Met Your Mother. It's tricky positioning cameras in tight spaces. Even trickier to make a good promo of a confined space. Of course in 3D, it's a simple matter to take down walls as you need to. Provided that the scene is built that way, of course.
Seinfeld had a pretty realistic NYC apartment.
For much of Joker, however, I kept wondering how he could afford such a place. It made me want to quit my job and work as an advertising clown!
Perhaps DAZ should batch rename all of the apartments to Peloton House 001, Peloton House 002, and so forth...
I create my own houses/apartments, and I do that too. Rooms are almost always 25'x25' or 30'x30' so I have plenty of room to stage the furniture and leave myself room to position the camera for comfortable shots. Then again, I don't set my stories in major cities with atronomical real estate values, so my characters can afford the square footage. Ha!
The only thing that bothers me about most of the apartment sets are those tiny loft spaces barely big enough for the bed. The apartment is huge, so make that loft space worthwhile. One apartment I created last year for myself had a loft space that was half the size of the main room. It was big enough for a full bedroom, closet and bathroom. It's one thing to create an apartment that's bigger than what's realistic, it's another to give the "resident" a mere 50 sq ft upper level space on a 1000 sq ft floor plan.
This one, though, the "downtown NY living room," is a neat little space.
No, we can't make it a thing- that when you talk about a product, you include a link to that product?
https://www.daz3d.com/downtown-ny-living-room
That way, when this thread is archived- a necro-reader will know what the fuss was about.
AND
It should link into Forum Discussions about a product so potential buyers can get some Pros and Cons.
As we gripe about vendors NOT listing what they used in Promos and We don't list the stuff we're talking about in threads. lol
...yeah my little studio here in Portland is a total of 409 ft². about the dimensions of a medium hotel room, but with a kitchenette included. I've seen smaller where I live going for much more than I pay per month. Would be difficult to get a filming crew in here with cameras lights & all.
The thing is, I've actually lived in a loft like that, though, and been in a number of others that are the same... though, granted, most didn't have that much space on the ground floor either. My main pet peeve, designwise, with a lot of the lofts is how many of them have stairs without handrails. I've never seen that in real life and I doubt it would even pass the building codes in most places, yet I keep seeing it over and over again here. It's usually easy to fix with a little additional construction, but it makes me think that a lot of the designers have never lived in a space with two floors.
Good point about the link. I'd thought putting the full product name in the header would be enough, but I've added it into the first post to make things simple
As far as I know, though, there isn't any other forum discussion on this product to link to, as this vendor never seems to post anything in the commercial forums and I posted this thread on the morning that the product came out.
Maybe it's ATI's browser extension that added the feature, but products have a space on the side that lists every forum thread where that product is linked.
And so, while you check something out, you can cruise through many of the mentions.
I know a guy who owns a loft like that, only that he lives in the middle of nowhere, out in the woods in a closed down water plant. It's airy and spacy but he told me it's damn cold in the winter, almost impossible to heat. And I've been in NY in the winter and thus can imagine that the people living in those kinds of lofts will either be freezing their bums off or have heating bills worthy of a minor national budget.