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I was just recalling how in 1999 there was this "Y2K" thing going on. "All the computers and electronics stuff was made for two-digit year indicators - they will crash, or missiles fire, when it goes to year '00' because it's set to think everything is 1900-1999." Nervous folk predicted that we'd all be stuck in something resembling the stone age, at 12:00 am on Jan 1, 2000, when all computer-run electronics either failed or else ran amok.
But we all survived it. Not even a single light bulb flickered where I was. I never heard of any troubles elsewhere, either.
Then it was, "the Mayan calendars all end at December 2012." That was about a predicted "end of the age" ... not end of the world. Confusion on that point led many to become very nervous.
Again, nothing earth-shattering happened. Some significant cultural changes have appeared since then, which might qualify as "a different age." Yet we all survived that, also.
Now there's a pandemic. Those have happened before. This one, symptoms appear in 5-15 days. It runs its course in about two weeks. We've been quarantined long enough for this disease to die out (from lack of access to new hosts). There will likely be some economic ripples to navigate, but the worst difficulties (life-threatening stuff) must be nearly over. Sincere and deep sympathies for anyone whose loved ones are ill, injured, or lost through this situation. I am saddened by all losses, and hopeful for all who struggle that they will come out the winners.
Anyhow, unless someone is currently ill with the pandemic disease, everyone currently breathing is highly likely to survive. Just like we (humanity) survived Y2K and 2012.
If one does the math, there's room for a lot of hope. This pandemic is -probably- nearly over.
( ... is it too early to begin celebrating survival??)
My friend made fun of me for washing all my groceries and I just found out that 6 workers at my local Ralph's supermarket have the virus! Luckily I've been shopping at Trader Joe's! Wash your groceries!
When my daughter brings our stuff, she leaves it at the door, my wife wipes everything down with sanitizer wipes including the carrier bag and the counter top where it was sitting, she then washes her hands and sanitizes them. You can't be too careful.
Yeah, unfortunately I don't have sanitizer, that's always sold out. I just use soap, but wash all groceries for at least 20 seconds like my hands!
It was the beaches in Orange County. They do have a specific political affiliation. Our governor really got angry about that and is supposed to announce tomorrow that he's tightening up the beaches.
Apparently the FDA says there is little to worry about when it comes to groceries and surfaces, but better safe than sorry.
https://nypost.com/2020/04/17/no-need-to-wipe-down-food-packaging-during-coronavirus-pandemic-fda-says/
If it can live on surfaces it can live on packaging. You don't know who has picked up the package and put it back on the shelf, or if someone coughed or sneezed into their hand at some point and has the virus. Door handles, stair banisters, handrails are all surfaces that can spread the Flu virus, it can spread Coronavirus too.
Yeah, but it's been said that the virus lasts 24 hours on cardboard, 3-4 days on plastic and up to 9 days on metal. With grocery store workers now getting sick, not to mention all the customers touching things, I think it would be crazy not to wash them! Exact times vary according to sources but this is pretty standard: https://www.webmd.com/lung/how-long-covid-19-lives-on-surfaces
I agree with you guys, just reporting what I read. I still have several bags of dry goods that were delivered yesterday sitting by the door, LOL
Our Govt. tried hard and finally accepted the fact the virus is not go away using stay at home. On the other hand country will collapse, even there is possibility of civil war between stay at home and not stay at home people. Finally will start soon public transport too, including buses.
Someone could make a fortune manufacturing and selling copper foil wrapping, as the virus dies quicker on copper than on any other surface apparently.
copper alloy has some unique properties, it is naturally anti-microbial – it kills bacteria and viruses, from E. coli and flu to the super bug MRSA [1] (within a few hours of contact)
Copper also kills slugs and snails, but not for the same reasons
A lot of work was done fixing the very real issues in range of systems, the (general) lack of problems was down to that.
It hasn't been fully starved of new hosts, though - people are continuing to contract the virus, just at lower levels. The point of the lock downs and so on is to slow things down, so that health care isn't swamped and to possibly allow the development of vaccines (though it would be surprising if they were ready any time soon).
It would cost a fortune (as compared to aluminum (tr: aluminium) to make foil out of copper. Copper is no longer a throwaway commodity. There's a reason thieves rip copper wiring out of unattended homes. But I'm sure the the 1%'ers would snap it up. And the "everything's-a-conspiracy" believers would even make their tin-foil hats out of copper too if they could afford it.
I'm just sorry that my mother's collection of huge copper pots and thick copper tubs is no longer in our family barn.
Probably too early for the dozens of corpses in refrigerated, sort of, trailers outside NYC funeral homes.
And like Richard said, Y2K looked very different if you had IT responsibilities at that time. Just like the coronavirus looks very different if you're working in health care now. All this stuff isn't just taken care of by itself.
A very thin layer electroplated on plastic bags or whatever might work.
They're even stealing the overhead wires for our trains here.
Oh I almost for got. If anyone is interested this is a list of online course that are free, I figure i mise well make good use of my downtime
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...works OK for items in plastic, glass, & cans (just be careful to not damage the label so you know what's in them) and such, but anything in a pasteboard box (like pasta, cereal etc.) or wrapped in butcher paper (which I request instead of styrofoam and cling wrap packaging) is another matter. Granted, sanitiser wipes would work better on items like cans & such with paper labels.
...hmmm,, two new sources I take with a salt lick.
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...yeah while we have been pretty successful in keeping the curve very manageable here in Oregon, isolation mandates are still in effect for another month.
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Anyone can get testing in LA now and I did and already got results that I am negative. Very easy drive up testing at a hospital just a 10 minutes from me, only three cars in front of me (you have to book in advance) but they did the swab up the nose thing which is not terrible but unpleasant. The whole thing from drive up to finish took 10 minutes. I had some mild symptoms earlier in the month and am hoping I have antibodies but those tests will still take a while.
I have a friend who runs an AirbnB from his home and he often had guests visiting from China. Actually most of his guests were from China. I warned him to stop because I was following legit news sources on Twitter, way before lockdowns or it becoming a thing. He didn't really believe me and had a bad cough and was sick but still functioning at the end of December and January and still had a bad cough in the beginning of March. I was around him a lot then and had my own mild symptoms in March and have no idea if I had it and it already resolved and I'm immune or not. They really have to get those antibody tests out...
But both my governor and mayor are WONDERFUL! Really helping people, helping farms by buying food and sending free fresh food to seniors and those with disabilities and free meals for children who would normally get it at school, creating pop up day care for the kids of those that need to work outside the home, putting homeless in unused hotel rooms, putting a moratorium on evictions so we can postpone paying rent, free testing for anyone now (LA County only for now), and so much more! I love LA & California!
Its good to be the King!
...good to hear. Though numbers here in Oregon have been low and the curve has been flattening, unless you are a healthcare provider, is in some other essential service, or exhibits corona-virus like symptoms,you can't make an appointment to get tested.
On a welcome note, received a notice of credit form the apartment management today as it tuns out they suspended the rent increase (until August) that originally went into effect earlier this month .
It's part of the reason why pennies and certain types of keys have a terrible smell to them. You're litterally smelling the dead and rotting bacteria on them. Also why pennies tasted yucky when you put them in your mouth as a little kid.
Of course pennies aren't copper any more. They are copper plated Zinc.
We are opening in Colorado kinda, but not Denver.
Today, the Target my flatmate works at was hit by protestors, stuffing masks into the toilets and flooding the bathrooms. For half the day, the workers there had no bathroom.
I have watched him come home, in pain, sore, with a headache, and just exhausted every work day. I see the faces of essential workers on TV, bruised, worn down beyond their years, in tears, and desperately asking for 'Stay at home' controls to stay in force. I would rather eat dried beans and rice dishes to allow meat packing plants the time to reorganize so workers can have some chance of working safely.
In the United States, polls are showing more than 80% of the population are in favor of controls and not opening. They understand the science.
Please be kind to the essential workers, support them where you can, be generous with your consideration.
Mary
Protesters, seriously? over what? what a bunch of idiots, I hope they all got arrested and put in a deep dark hole.
Corona an anagram of racoon
official mascot for avoiding Covid19 wears a mask, washes hands
Good one Wendy and makes sense. I used to have a pet raccoon when I was 16, mean little devil.
Pennies aren't even pennies anymore in my country. Canada eliminated the penny a few years ago. I still have a jar full of them somehwere around here.