How are you greeting the end of the world?

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  • IvyIvy Posts: 7,165

    As long as you don't leave your residence or place your living and go out into crowded public areas you won't have much need for a M95 mask.  which is truly the only mask The WHO  & CDC verified to work blocking pathogens & bio contaminants for this disease the rest of the mask like the tie back surgical & home sewn cloth mask are recommended for people who are sick with this disease to wear them to keep them from breathing or coughing into the public space to spread the decease . if its not M95 I would be leery of trusting my life on it. That is one of the biggest issues with Mask is that people are not using the right mask for the proper reason. plus are not staying home like they are told too.

  • manekiNekomanekiNeko Posts: 1,456
    his x said:

    maybe we can wear hoodies backwards if we cannot get masks enlightened

    I was thinking that a bra would easily make two masks.

    could swear i've seen some article or pic about that. in germany, or japan.. ? been done already. now depending on the cup it might work or less...

  • laststandlaststand Posts: 866
    his x said:

    maybe we can wear hoodies backwards if we cannot get masks enlightened

    I was thinking that a bra would easily make two masks.

    could swear i've seen some article or pic about that. in germany, or japan.. ? been done already. now depending on the cup it might work or less...

    Have you seen the jockstrap mask?

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 41,507

    it all could work though

    because

    if I saw people wearing such weird paraphernalia I would keep my distance laugh

  • MelissaGTMelissaGT Posts: 2,611
    Ivy said:

    Has anyone watched the movie "I Am Ledgen" 

    Where a pandemic virus like a some sort of coronaviruses was killing the world populations. much like today.  and after some time they came up with a untested vaccine and immediately start using it on people which being a untested vaccine turned everyone into Vampires Zombies. So I was thinking  Boy I sure hope Real-life-experience won't imitate a fictional story and in all our nation's haste push out some untested vaccine and turn everyone into some kind of monster zombie like that movie. ...YIKES!!!

    I believe in I Am Legend, the movie at least, it was a cure for cancer that caused people to turn into...well, whatever it was they turned into. I haven't read the book, but as I understand it, the movie is pretty much nothing like it. 

  • manekiNekomanekiNeko Posts: 1,456
    his x said:
    his x said:

    maybe we can wear hoodies backwards if we cannot get masks enlightened

    I was thinking that a bra would easily make two masks.

    could swear i've seen some article or pic about that. in germany, or japan.. ? been done already. now depending on the cup it might work or less...

    Have you seen the jockstrap mask?

    yup lol.. might even be the same series of pics ^^ - do they specify if you're supoosed to wear it normally first? >_<

  • manekiNekomanekiNeko Posts: 1,456

    it all could work though

    because

    if I saw people wearing such weird paraphernalia I would keep my distance laugh

    never seen the underwear hero - or whatever this japanese flick was called...? XD

  • maikdeckermaikdecker Posts: 3,037
    Taoz said:

    He talks talk about it here as well (23:00).  He also mentions certain mushrooms which are supposed to be effective agains viruses (33:35).

    Note that this video is over 10 days old and some statistics may have changed since.


    I just managed to get to the disclaimer before I had to leave that video

    Disclaimer: Gregg Braden is not a doctor and is in no way providing medical advice or suggestions of any kind whatsoever. Please contact your heath care provider regarding adding any supplements or changes to your diet, exercises or life choices.


    And I'm glad that the local small supermarket is still open - and just a five minute walk at slow pace away - and supplied, as I have personal based reasons - which I will not explain here, as that would lead to get this post deleted, I guess - to never ever again buy anything at Amazon.

  • laststandlaststand Posts: 866

    It is the third feature-film adaptation of Richard Matheson's 1954 novel I Am Legend, following 1964's The Last Man on Earth and 1971's The Omega Man.

    ........................................................................................................

    I've seen all three. Life imitates art, don't we say?

  • AsariAsari Posts: 703
    I remember Outbreak is a bit like if Ebola and Coronavirus combined their strengths ... like if Coronavirus had the lethality of Ebola, or if Ebola were as contagious as Corona and would spread equally fast ...
  • IvyIvy Posts: 7,165
    Asari said:
    I remember Outbreak is a bit like if Ebola and Coronavirus combined their strengths ... like if Coronavirus had the lethality of Ebola, or if Ebola were as contagious as Corona and would spread equally fast ...

    That would be a bad combination wouldn't it

  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604
    his x said:

    maybe we can wear hoodies backwards if we cannot get masks enlightened

    I was thinking that a bra would easily make two masks.

    Or the pads that they put in some bras

  • BendinggrassBendinggrass Posts: 1,388

     

    Nath said:

    some recommendations for alcohol for internal use:

     

    I rather stick with coffee as my home does not allow alcohol for internal use.  (probably not for any use if it is that is the drinkable alcohol.)  I do have some rubbing alcohol but it is locked up.

    ... Well, you can't be TOOOO bad, Miss Bad Wolf.... most bad wolves are stealing picnic baskets, eating old bed-ridden grandmothers. , trying to eat little granddaughters, brealing into the 3 bears house..... oh, sorry, that's Goldilox..... you know, she is running from the police, for break and entry, vandalism, destruction of property..... and she got Baby Bear drinking whisky.

  • DiomedeDiomede Posts: 15,457

     

    it all could work though

    because

    if I saw people wearing such weird paraphernalia I would keep my distance laugh

    as per

  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 12,464
    edited April 2020
    his x said:

    maybe we can wear hoodies backwards if we cannot get masks enlightened

    I was thinking that a bra would easily make two masks.

    But for men wouldn't you need to use a bro?

     

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  • laststandlaststand Posts: 866
    edited April 2020
    his x said:

    maybe we can wear hoodies backwards if we cannot get masks enlightened

    I was thinking that a bra would easily make two masks.

    But for men wouldn't you need to use a bro?

     

    And to think they once burned them... who knew...

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  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 42,403

    Time to get this survival thread back on track, getting too gloomy with all the talk of cats taking over the world.

    PUBLIC SERVICE ANOUNCEMENT!

    For those of you that are out of hand sanatizer, I had a suggestion from Kent Rollins (do a youtube search if you don't know whon he is)  Mix 70% rubbing alcohol and olive or canola oil in a 50/50 ratio to make a moisturing hand sanatizer.  Since I am down to 8 oz of Isopropyl alcohol and can't find a bottle of rubing alcohol anywhere, time to up the virus killing power so the new experiment will be...

     

    If you make a public service anouncement please make it a correct one, the needed ratio of alcohol for a working hand sanitizer is 60%-70%!

    Agreed, my experimnet failed.  Next experiment is 75% Everclear & 25% Aloevera jell.  You're right, I didn't have enough alcohol in it (have to send Kent an email to up his ratio of alcohol).

    ...but wouldn't Isopropyl alcohol be less expensive by volume? Even cheap Bourbon or Vodka is something like 12 -14$ for a fifth.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 42,403
    Nath said:

    One half of the internet is saying that the images of people with burns to their hands who started cooking after applying alcohol-based hand sanitizers are hoaxes. Others say it can happen if the alcohol doesn't evaporate completely.

    I'll continue to use alcohol for internal use only.

    ...hmm that reminds me less than half a of Irish whiskey left. Boozateria is across the street but not sure if they are open.. 

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 42,403
    Nath said:

    some recommendations for alcohol for internal use:

     

    ...mmmmm, both tasty, but sadly am on a pensioner's budget  these days.

  • ArtAngelArtAngel Posts: 2,096

    it all could work though

    because

    if I saw people wearing such weird paraphernalia I would keep my distance laugh

    Would I look weird if I borrowed my hubby's pick-me-upper to place groceries in a shopping cart?

     

    Ivy said:

    ... My comment was a point made about a movie

    While we are on the topic of movies, if anyone is needing a laugh, Drunk Parents with Alex Baldwin and Salma Hayek is ridiculously funny.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 42,403

    ..well have to do a market trip again tomorrow morning.  Kind of like the early morning reserved time for older folks.    No crowds so it is easy to maintain distance and shelves freshly stocked for the day (as best as they can be).  I'd hate to be in there later when it is more busy particularly as they have indications on the floor of where to stand to maintain spacing for waiting in line to check out.  I can imagine the checkout lines extending back into the aisles to maintain separation as the market is rather small compared to most Safeways in town.  , 

  • IvyIvy Posts: 7,165

    " relax loosen your corset have a drink, "

    ArtAngel said:

    it all could work though

    because

    if I saw people wearing such weird paraphernalia I would keep my distance laugh

    Would I look weird if I borrowed my hubby's pick-me-upper to place groceries in a shopping cart?

     

    Ivy said:

    ... My comment was a point made about a movie

    While we are on the topic of movies, if anyone is needing a laugh, Drunk Parents with Alex Baldwin and Salma Hayek is ridiculously funny.

    I seen it was on Showtime. But i have not watched it yet. I will now you mentioned it

  • MelissaGTMelissaGT Posts: 2,611
    kyoto kid said:

    ..well have to do a market trip again tomorrow morning.  Kind of like the early morning reserved time for older folks.    No crowds so it is easy to maintain distance and shelves freshly stocked for the day (as best as they can be).  I'd hate to be in there later when it is more busy particularly as they have indications on the floor of where to stand to maintain spacing for waiting in line to check out.  I can imagine the checkout lines extending back into the aisles to maintain separation as the market is rather small compared to most Safeways in town.  , 

    It's the exact opposite here during "senior hour". I know a few folks who had tried it and said they'd never do it again. Apparently people were literally smashing at each other with carriages to get into the store. No thank you. My mom went to Wal-Mart on Tuesday this week around midday and she said the store was pretty good. The only problem is people not observing the distance spots on the floor while in line. 

  • GreymomGreymom Posts: 1,147
    kyoto kid said:
     

    Agreed, my experimnet failed.  Next experiment is 75% Everclear & 25% Aloevera jell.  You're right, I didn't have enough alcohol in it (have to send Kent an email to up his ratio of alcohol).

    ...but wouldn't Isopropyl alcohol be less expensive by volume? Even cheap Bourbon or Vodka is something like 12 -14$ for a fifth.

    Yeah, the W-mart that shall not be named sometimes has a liter of 91% isopropanol (the good stuff!) for less than $2.  The 70% was cheaper than that. Sadly, I have not seen any since this started.  Fortunately we keep a supply in the house for cleaning.  People even bought up all the Witch Hazel solution, but that is only 14% alcohol.

     

  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 12,464
    edited April 2020

    Toddled up to the post office and our tiny town's little grocery store again.  It's been a week, 8 days actually because of the craziness that happened here yesterday.  Oy.  Picked up the last of my Amazon orders for a while.  They've announced that they are postponing delivery of PC parts to concentrate on necessities (and some of their staff are walking out).  Grocery store was pretty much the same except for bread and TP and Kleenex and paper towels.  Lots of meat, vegetables, fruits, canned goods.  The papergoods were not out, just low, and the bread was very sparse, just loaves of Italian bread, hamburger rolls, and that godawful nutritionless almost-nothing-there, super long, thinly sliced, white bread, and some half loaves of heavy rye bread.  Not finding my wonderful favorite sweet, moist, thickly sliced, dark, whole wheat, "Dutch Country" bread I gave up and got the rye.  I cannot abide white bread. (*blah*)  I need flavor and body in my bread.  Would have done without if they didn't have the rye.

    While at the grocery store I had my 15 minutes of fame because of the craziness yesterday.  People actually knew who I was and that I lived in the other apartment in the house where the craziness was centered.  I got to tell my story a couple of times.  The best part was when I got to say the line "I felt safe where I was and I didn't want to leave my apartment but decided it was best not to argue with the SWAT team".surprise  Beligerent neighbor finally gave up and surrendered quietly after a 5 hour standoff with nobody hurt.  I was able to return home about 10:00 last night.  The incident is being blamed on being cooped up with his family for two weeks.   Glad I live alone.indecision

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  • GreymomGreymom Posts: 1,147

    Speaking of bra cups made into filter masks: 

    Back when I was a kid (a long time ago in a previous millenium), I was working with finely powdered aluminum and charcoal in my home lab for a while (I was trying to make display fireworks, but Dad put an end to it after an experiment blew a small smoking crater in our yard, and rattled the windows of nearby houses).  My folks were concerned about getting the dust into my lungs (along with the blowing myself to tiny bits part), and filter masks were not easy to find.  My Mom made me a mask out of a old bra cup and some elastic.  There was some wire in the cup, so you could mold it to your face.  Worked pretty well, no coughing from the dust!  Man, I had not thought of that in 40 years at least.

    Anyway, the principle is sound, as long as the material is not too thick.  The shape is good for sealing around the nose and mouth.  The powders I was working with were in the 20-40 micron range (325-600 mesh), in the same range as the virus-carrying droplets. Under magnification, you could see the carbon and aluminum dust caught in the fibers.

     

  • billyben_0077a25354billyben_0077a25354 Posts: 771
    edited April 2020
    Chohole said:

    Time to get this survival thread back on track, getting too gloomy with all the talk of cats taking over the world.

    PUBLIC SERVICE ANOUNCEMENT!

    For those of you that are out of hand sanatizer, I had a suggestion from Kent Rollins (do a youtube search if you don't know whon he is)  Mix 70% rubbing alcohol and olive or canola oil in a 50/50 ratio to make a moisturing hand sanatizer.  Since I am down to 8 oz of Isopropyl alcohol and can't find a bottle of rubing alcohol anywhere, time to up the virus killing power so the new experiment will be...

     

    If you make a public service anouncement please make it a correct one, the needed ratio of alcohol for a working hand sanitizer is 60%-70%!

    Agreed, my experimnet failed.  Next experiment is 75% Everclear & 25% Aloevera jell.  You're right, I didn't have enough alcohol in it (have to send Kent an email to up his ratio of alcohol).

    It's not just the ratio of alcohol to whatever else you add,  it's also the purity of the alcohol,  Pure alcohol is like 100%  and you need at least 70% pure alcohol.  An average bottle of good whiskey is only 40% pure alcohol to give you some idea.    There are 2 different scales for showing the strength of alcohol  The aforementioned bottle containijng 40% ABV alcohol will be marketed at 80% proof. A bottle of the acohol used in a strong hand sanitizer is 70% ABV. (and incidently at that strength is toxic) so could also be shown as 150% proof. 

    There are two scales because the Proof scale applied to drinks is what is used to cacculate tax levels for the various alcoholic drinks.

    Everclear is 190 proof (95%ABV)..  The reason I bought it is I haven't seen any rubbing or Isopropyl alcohol in 3 weeks at the store.  While you can technically drink Everclear, it is usually used to add to other things to up the proof or make things like "Trashcan Punch".  Think legal version of really strong moonshine.

    Ivy said:

    Has anyone watched the movie "I Am Ledgen" 

    Where a pandemic virus like a some sort of coronaviruses was killing the world populations. much like today.  and after some time they came up with a untested vaccine and immediately start using it on people which being a untested vaccine turned everyone into Vampires Zombies. So I was thinking  Boy I sure hope Real-life-experience won't imitate a fictional story and in all our nation's haste push out some untested vaccine and turn everyone into some kind of monster zombie like that movie. ...YIKES!!!

    I believe in I Am Legend, the movie at least, it was a cure for cancer that caused people to turn into...well, whatever it was they turned into. I haven't read the book, but as I understand it, the movie is pretty much nothing like it. 

    I have read the book and the only movie that comes close to the book is The Last Man On Earth with Vincent Price.  The Omega Man and I am Legend really don't follow the book much.

    kyoto kid said:

    Time to get this survival thread back on track, getting too gloomy with all the talk of cats taking over the world.

    PUBLIC SERVICE ANOUNCEMENT!

    For those of you that are out of hand sanatizer, I had a suggestion from Kent Rollins (do a youtube search if you don't know whon he is)  Mix 70% rubbing alcohol and olive or canola oil in a 50/50 ratio to make a moisturing hand sanatizer.  Since I am down to 8 oz of Isopropyl alcohol and can't find a bottle of rubing alcohol anywhere, time to up the virus killing power so the new experiment will be...

     

    If you make a public service anouncement please make it a correct one, the needed ratio of alcohol for a working hand sanitizer is 60%-70%!

    Agreed, my experimnet failed.  Next experiment is 75% Everclear & 25% Aloevera jell.  You're right, I didn't have enough alcohol in it (have to send Kent an email to up his ratio of alcohol).

    ...but wouldn't Isopropyl alcohol be less expensive by volume? Even cheap Bourbon or Vodka is something like 12 -14$ for a fifth.

    If I could have found any Isopropyl or rubbing alcohol, I would have bought some.frown

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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 41,507

    still rolling my eyes a bit at the logic of what is allowed and forbidden 

    cannot sit in a park or on a beach by yourself 

    can send spit in the mail for DNA tests

  • IvyIvy Posts: 7,165
    edited April 2020

    still rolling my eyes a bit at the logic of what is allowed and forbidden 

    cannot sit in a park or on a beach by yourself 

    can send spit in the mail for DNA tests

    what is really crazy to me is when our state gave a stay at home enforcement orders starting 4/1 to 5/31. for people not to go out.  . But then when watching the traffic traveling on the highway from the top our mountain it appears there more traffic now than there was before the lock down orders were made.  I guess that shows how some humans can be defiant creatures. I read in the paper that in 32 states in the USA the police were going to give 1 warning and then start enforcing the orders with tickets or fines & or in some cases arrested which would put you in quarantined with other people not complying with stay at home orders wheather you had covid-19 or not. In our state of Tennessee you have to call the police and tell them why  you have to leave your home and give them your car ID tags and your name and they would issue you a travel pass.  Some companies are giving travel passes to their employee's as well .. its scary & confusing times

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  • Here in the UK there was a £660 fine for a repeat offender, reported yesterday. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-52121216

    That would hurt.

    Regards,

    Richard.

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