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(Lock) Difference V4 and V4.2

sterlenejcsterlenejc Posts: 179
edited January 2020 in The Commons

Yesterday I noticed V4.2 base in my library, but I never purchased her. I know for a fact that many people out there still use V4 as she's really well-supportwd character. But I don't know what's the difference between her and V4.2, I have some extra morphs for her as well. So my question here is: IF I decide to buy some generation4 products, characters, will they work on both versions? Including skins, clothing etc?

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  • OdaaOdaa Posts: 1,548

    V4.2 is the slightly upgraded (rigging, maybe?), final version of V4, and usually when we speak of V4 we are talking about V4.2. I own one or two sets of clothes made for V4.1 and they seemed to work fine on V4.2. Pretty sure the skins would work as well.

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 107,987

    Victoria 4.2 has been the current version of Victoria 4 for ages - since before Genesis (1) was released. 4.1 added the eyebrow element (as a bone parnted to the head), 4.1 or 4.2 switched from embedded morphs to the ExP system to allow more expansions. Anything that works for Victoria 4 should be fine with 4.2.

  • LeanaLeana Posts: 12,749

    V4.2 is simply the latest update of V4. That's the version almost everybody refers to when they say "V4" nowadays as it's been the current version of V4 since 2008. Almost every product you'll see for "V4" will in fact be for V4.2.

     

    The main difference between the versions was the way morphs were handled:

    • V4.0 had all the morphs preloaded with the figure, but the problem was that you couldn't add new morph packs without updating the base figure as the base cr2 needed to include morph channels for all morphs.
    • V4.1 used the same system as V3 IIRC. You had the ability to select which moprhs to load, and it had a few "community channels" to inject custom morphs, but it was still limited by the fact that you needed those channels in the cr2 beforehand. The eyebrow bodypart was also added with this version
    • V4.2 was the final version, and introduced "Exp" morph system, which could dynamically create the channels needed each time you installed a new morph pack.
  • BejaymacBejaymac Posts: 1,942
    Leana said:
    • V4.0 had all the morphs preloaded with the figure, but the problem was that you couldn't add new morph packs without updating the base figure as the base cr2 needed to include morph channels for all morphs.
    • V4.1 used the same system as V3 IIRC. You had the ability to select which moprhs to load, and it had a few "community channels" to inject custom morphs, but it was still limited by the fact that you needed those channels in the cr2 beforehand. The eyebrow bodypart was also added with this version
    • V4.2 was the final version, and introduced "Exp" morph system, which could dynamically create the channels needed each time you installed a new morph pack.

    Not quite, friend of mine still has his original V4 installer, basically Vicky4 has the same setup as Aiko3, you bought the figure and you got a CR2 with a handfull of expression morphs and the empty Legacy injection channels, and not a lot else, it was basically a Lite Edition (LE). Buying the ++ morphs gave you a second CR2 (just like Aiko3), this is the one stuffed with all the morphs, you also got a V4 to V3 CR2 as well.

    V4.1 was when they added the EXP morphs system as that was when we got Aiko 4 as she was the "first DAZ character" to use it, we also got the eyebrow mesh and bone then too.

    V4.2 was basically just bug fixes.

  • LeanaLeana Posts: 12,749
    edited January 2020

    Nope, sorry. Aiko 4 was built on V4.2, I'm sure of that. I still have the files too, a backup from my original downloads at the time (I bought her basically on release). Besides the product readmes agree with me on this ;)

    There might have been a first version of Exp system with 4.1 though.

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  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604

    The smart Money is on Leana

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    The Exp system ia more memory efficient.  instead of loading all morphs, can load just the morphs you want to use.

     

    character creators used readscript lines in the file to loadup just the required morphs.  in 4.1 they loaded the whole ++ set.  slowed her down in the preview window (poser)

  • LeanaLeana Posts: 12,749

    In DS only the morphs which are actually used (ie have a non-null value) are loaded in memory, even when all the morphs are available / injected.

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 107,987
    Mystarra said:

    The Exp system ia more memory efficient.  instead of loading all morphs, can load just the morphs you want to use.

     

    character creators used readscript lines in the file to loadup just the required morphs.  in 4.1 they loaded the whole ++ set.  slowed her down in the preview window (poser)

    Plain Morph Injection worked to save resources, the benefit of ExP is that it doesn't need a separate CR2 for each additional large set of morphs and small morph sets/individual characters are not fighting for a limited number of free channels.

  • sterlenejcsterlenejc Posts: 179

    ok thanks guys, I thought those were two separate figures. Thread can now be locked

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