OT: Samsung's Neon Artificial Human

Off topic: What are your thoughts on the Samsung's Neon (Artificial Human)? Seems too real to be true!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6f6EXX-79w

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  • frankrblowfrankrblow Posts: 2,052

    One more small step for inhuman kind... but still a long, long way to go, before they look completely real in all situations and lighting.

  • FSMCDesignsFSMCDesigns Posts: 12,851

    very interesting tech, will have to stay up on it's development.

    I am more interested in Core R3 than Neon and how it could be used for consumer based CG work

    My biggest concern with this type of tech and AI is replacing jobs from humans. there are already too many people on the earth with everyone trying to find ways to sustain themselves and their families. Losing jobs to AI tech won't be helping that situation.

     

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,559
    edited January 2020

    dunno how much is scripted though, as they themselves pointed out the mocap video game characters look convincing until you try using a lipsync type function, I have seen facial  mocaps using Victoria 4 that looked convincing because it's the micro expressions with that particular narrative.

    The Pixar toon characters even look believable because real actors voice them and they use mocap.

    Otherwise you get a lot of very photorealistic corpses and wax museum exhibits.

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  • XpiderMan said:

    Off topic: What are your thoughts on the Samsung's Neon (Artificial Human)? Seems too real to be true!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6f6EXX-79w

    Unfortunately, it is too real to be true. Those smooth "animations" turned out to be prerecordings used as a sort of "goal" for the NEON project. The AI itself behind NEON still has a very long way to go, with very janky animations, most of with do not properly line up with any spoken commands outside of english. At this point, it's honestly not all that different from plugging Alexa or Siri into Facerig, albeit with projected face renders, with some very basic body swaying. I for one don't look forward to this sort of technology, because it serves a very niche purpose with far too much room for abuse.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 42,119
    edited January 2020

    ..OK now this is downright scary. Would the average person notice if it is real or not? 

    I once toyed with a dystopic story idea about CG generated personalities being passed off as real. 

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  • rav4rav4 Posts: 96
    edited January 2020
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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,559
    rav4 said:

    Gawd Siri shows more emotion in it's voice on my iPad

  • NylonGirlNylonGirl Posts: 2,292
    kyoto kid said:

    ..OK now this is downright scary. Would the average person notice if it is real or not? 

    I once toyed with a dystopic story idea about CG generated personalities being passed off as real. 

    I think it will be fine until it gets good enough for people to make videos of others and use them as evidence in court.

    When I heard "artificial humans", I thought Samsung was working on actual robots that work like people, like in WestWorld or Humans. After I found out it was not only just computer generated images, but also relied on motion capture, I decided their new televisions were more interesting than this project.

    Now I did hear of a woman who presented herself online as a young, pretty girl, and then her filter crashed and revealed her as an older woman in a live video. I suppose this technology would be good for anybody else trying to do that. I'd probably give it a go, but I'd be more interested in virtual reality rigs that can make people's avatars look that realistic.

  • RAMWolffRAMWolff Posts: 10,373

    Pretty interesting!

  • bluejauntebluejaunte Posts: 2,009

    Looks like video recordings to me, I don't buy it.

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,830

    I think it looks green screened and like there are artifacts. They look realistic though otherwise. For all the complaints about machinery and computers replacing people it doesn't bother me a bit. No fatique, accidents, injuries and the same unerring unnverving exactitude in manufacturing tolerences means high quality products manufactured cheap for everybody. Being rich is no longer a big deal or even feels like they are getting better lifestyle because all needed is available to everyone so cheap via automated manufacting methods. Well truthfully it's that why now for all that avoid destructive vices with a little planning in industrial nations and increasingly everywhere else too. 

    I find it bizarre that people creating print media broadcast media and increasingly more everyday people use the same bloated adjectives and adverbs and other figures of speech. I mean, when I write I can needlessly ramble  but those streams of words coming from the print & broadcast media folk has me thinking what is going on there?! For example, words like funny have almost ceased to be used and instead words like hilarious must be used resulting in a totally unbelievable exaggeration of the claimed humor in the thing being referenced. Hilarious is supposed to be orders of magnitude more intense humour than just funny but those usually wind up being not funny at all. Another word they are driving me up the wall with is egregious. What? Egregious? It must not be when every other word out of their mouths is a claim of egreciousness of someone other than the speaker. 

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  • KitsumoKitsumo Posts: 1,222
    edited January 2020

    Yeah, it turns out they were a little dishonest about that.

    https://youtu.be/B4sXv7fvBt4?t=98

    Edit: So the face and expressions are computer generated (controlled by a technician) and composited onto a video of a person. That is impressive, but not as much as what they advertised it as.

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  • Griffin AvidGriffin Avid Posts: 3,837

    Yeah, that's also covered here.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAY2LxaFtaM

  • WinterMoonWinterMoon Posts: 2,016

    When you know they're CGI animations, you can kind of see it. Especially the woman on the right end looks a little too air-brushed and perfect.

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